Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[NightOwl]

KH I believe is a best friend of Johnny's page 6 of 15 on the discovery - she is in many many pictures with Lisa & Johnny & I believe she is with the coloured fellow in the pictures another friend of Johnny's IMO don't know his initials they were at many parties Maytee had the pictures - a baby boy was born Monday to the couple.

[NightOwl]

Six months ago when I was checking out the individual known as AC (or AP's ex), most all of her TMC court records had the button to click on with the scanned documents that gave detials of the arrest. Such as the address on Arlington where Corrigan was murdered, the details of the ATM robbery, the large bags of marijuana, etc.

Now when I go back to reread, all those links have been removed. Makes me wonder why? Those were public documents at one time.

Interesting!! about the records, interesting that she AC is caught with marijuana right after Johnny and Lisa and what about VD he's the friend Johnny was with before he picked up Lisa that dreadful night didn't he get caught also with marijuana? the Coroner stated Johnny used it that night but, not Lisa. Connections about this and connections about that!!

Could BA who is on page 7 of 15 Documents be VD's girlfriend but, I do not see VD's initials and he was one of the last to see Johnny IMO.

[NightOwl]

I just think it's weird that Tiffany can't get a hold of Johnny or Lisa and the first phone call she makes to express her concerns is to the dude's girlfriend who just murdered the two. Out of any person in this entire world she could have called, she just happens to hit the nail on the head?

In my opinion, of course.

Tiffany didn't call Samuel Williams aka sammy sosa that night Starla C is Williams woman - Tiffany telephoned a woman called Sherita who knew Maytee's phone number - Tiffany didn't have Maytee's No on her phone IMO

Starla was not involved 31/1/2011 yet IMO she comes in later on when Samuel Williams is arrested. I believe BN is a cousin of Maytee's she has signed her name on the Legacy Website at the Funeral Home.

Tiffany also said Aaron was studying for an exam the night of the murders.

[blueberryhill]

Owl, yes in the world of initials, BA and VD are girlfriend and boyfriend.

[LoserCity]

Tiffany didn't call Samuel Williams aka sammy sosa that night Starla C is Williams woman - Tiffany telephoned a woman called Sherita who knew Maytee's phone number - Tiffany didn't have Maytee's No on her phone IMO

Starla was not involved 31/1/2011 yet IMO she comes in later on when Samuel Williams is arrested.

This is why I was confused. In my earlier posts I quoted the conflicting information. I believe Adub said he found that SC was Sherrita. Then, in another post, Nina said that SC was Sam William's girlfriend. So I was asking how on earth Tiffany could have called Sherrita the night of the murders. Now I see that we simply have 2 "SC's" Starla and Sherrita. I think that clears things up.

[blueberryhill]

adub. early on in this thread, the car deal was mentioned. I think the
Sebring was owned by Johnny and he sold it to AC. She wrecked it shortly after and
either wanted her money back or didn't want to pay the remaining money
she owed on car. There were hard feelings over that but murder over that seems like a stretch to me. if i recall correctly, i think Maytee was
involved in this mess.
Also earlier on in Clarke/Straub relationship, Lisa lived with a roommate
in an apartment and as roommate was moving out, Johnny punched her
in stomach. I always thought maybe that was a factor but in rehashing
everything, i think Johnny told people there was a safe in the house
and these punks went to house to find money and/or drugs and then
one sociopath in group decided it would be fun to use plastic bags and
duct tape just like the video game he had seen recently.

[BellaMia]

I am not sure if it has been answered yet but a few have asked me if I could find out DM's dad name and it is C.S. Not sure if I can put his full name on here publicly? As for SW leaving town after the murders he did not he was locked up in Stryker, Ohio CCNO for a few months. If it has already been answered sorry for posting with out re-reading threads

[BellaMia]

I asked a friend who is local to the area if she was familiar with the Bedford Inn. She assures me it is known for drugs and hookers. I wonder if there is a room "544" there?

Could always call and ask to be connected to that room to see if they have one. Most they will say is no or its unoccupied.

[Snoopy]

a
duct tape just like the video game he had seen recently.

I recall someone saying that the method of murder in this case, was familiar to one used in a video game, but I do not recall if anyone verified that either of the accused owned the game, or had ever played the game, I do work very odd hours so please fill me in if I missed that.

While using bags to suffocate a victim is very cruel and not the norm, there are other cases where this has happened. I am not saying they did not get the idea from a game, or a movie, or a sudden moment of just having those materials available when they decided to commit the crime, but it would be interesting to know if anyone knows for a fact, that these two ever played that game or had even heard of it. Thanks for any feedback on this.

[LoserCity]

I As for SW leaving town after the murders he did not he was locked up in Stryker, Ohio CCNO for a few months.

That is interesting because I recall someone saying (very early on) that the murderer was locked up on other charges. Who would have this kind of info? Dang...now I have to go back and re-read.

[pspence]

Thanks LC. I just think it's weird that Tiffany can't get a hold of Johnny or Lisa and the first phone call she makes to express her concerns is to the dude's girlfriend who just murdered the two. Out of any person in this entire world she could have called, she just happens to hit the nail on the head?

Make me believe 1 of two things:

When Tiffany was on the phone with Johnny, she heard Johnny say Sosa's name....OR
She was supposed to be there as a lookout, the person who would "save the day", whatever.

In my opinion, of course.

Wow. You nailed it.

[pspence]

gawd Adub, type out the names! aggghhhhhh!

Thanks Lady Cop. Geesh, i'm starting to get nauseated trying to follow these EFFIN' INITIALS!

[pspence]

Would you like to go out there when this case goes to trial, LC?

i never thought about that. it's an interesting thought. i'd like to meet up with some of my contacts there.

and i could meet maytee!

If i were a gazillionaire, i would love to say "okay mockers, i'll pay for all your flights/hotels/and we'll all go to the trial see all the players...then we could go to lunch /dinner, have a few drinks...and discuss the day...

[Adub]

I As for SW leaving town after the murders he did not he was locked up in Stryker, Ohio CCNO for a few months.

That is interesting because I recall someone saying (very early on) that the murderer was locked up on other charges. Who would have this kind of info? Dang...now I have to go back and re-read.

And I recall someone asking if Tiffany Williams had a younger brother.... that was back in March.

[NightOwl]

I do not see where Samuel Williams was at CCNO nothing states he was at Corrections Center of Northwest Ohio 2011 - he was on Probation! If he was not locked up at CCNO then it is possible he left Ohio for awhile.
Here is a link to the Lucas County Dockets online document

http://lcapps.co.lucas.oh.us/obpublicacc...f26bf1a49a

[NightOwl]

I As for SW leaving town after the murders he did not he was locked up in Stryker, Ohio CCNO for a few months.

That is interesting because I recall someone saying (very early on) that the murderer was locked up on other charges. Who would have this kind of info? Dang...now I have to go back and re-read.

And I recall someone asking if Tiffany Williams had a younger brother.... that was back in March.

We can rule out Samuel Williams being Tiffs brother his mother is DA now her last name changed, it didn't just change yesterday either! but, Lady Cop already stated Samuel Williams is not related to Tiffany Williams.

[blueberryhill]

Re a reunion in Ohio when this case goes to trial, I think one of us needs to contact Bedford Inn. They might give us
a discount in exchange for receiving free advertising.

[Adub]

That is interesting because I recall someone saying (very early on) that the murderer was locked up on other charges. Who would have this kind of info?

And I recall someone asking if Tiffany Williams had a younger brother.... that was back in March.

We can rule out Samuel Williams being Tiffs brother his mother is DA now her last name changed, it didn't just change yesterday either! but, Lady Cop already stated Samuel Williams is not related to Tiffany Williams.

NightOwl, my point was that the the word was out back in March. As to who was involved in the murders. That is why the question about TW having a younger brother was posited, imo. No one had an answer.

But the question itself was telling (in hindsight) now that it is known that Samuel Todd and Tiffany share a last name. Someone (here at Mock) had heard that the suspected murderer's last name was Williams. So they asked the question. Someone was curious.

That was back in March which happens to be the same month that Samuel Todd Williams had a complaint filed against him for domestic violence. He was arrested sometime after March 23^rd and spent sometime locked up before being released on SOR. Looks like he was not released until May.

[Adub]

Oh yeah, March was also the same month that someone (maybe not curious) stated that an arrest would be imminent, like that very day.

So I can surmise that LE had their eye on Samuel Todd as early as March 2011.

[MikeyA]

Would you like to go out there when this case goes to trial, LC?

i never thought about that. it's an interesting thought. i'd like to meet up with some of my contacts there.

and i could meet maytee!

I've thought about going home during the trial but I've got Pico45 who I think will go and will keep me in the loop.