Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[Duchess]

Not really much there, it's just standard procedure. Sam's not going anywhere.

[d505]

Hi everyone, just a different perspective, I don't live in Ohio. However, I recently served on grand jury for a period of three months twice a week. Anyhow, I went into it, as a younger bunch of the group, with an open mind. As a grand jury member you don't decide if someone is guilt you just vote on whether there is probable cause to indict the person. Anyhow, one of the cases was regarding a murder. We heard a lot of he said she said police reports. We heard testimony from the police Anyhow, the guy, being accused really did not seam like he was the one that shot the victim. It sounded like it was someone else. Long story short, it was a gang related mess with people scared to talk. From my observation, it really sounded like the guy being accused of the murder was not the guy. It sounded like it was this other guy. Anyhow, I mentioned this to the foreman. And the foreman said this is what gets them talking even if he didn't do it. It was something along those lines.

So to connect this experience with Sammy Williams, what if it wasn't him. I am not saying he wasn't there. Maybe there is more to the story, but Sammy Williams lives and dies by the "snitch" rule. Just a different perspective. And on another note, I find it so creepy that the Clarkes may have been involved in a set up gone wrong type thing.

Does anyone on mock have any theories of the Clarke's motive that night and or their involvement? (e.g., they did a robbery set up on Lisas house and Johhny or Lisa didn't know. Something went wrong?) Any theories?

[blueberryhill]

d505:
The mystery of Johnny and Lisa is what first drew me to this site...The thing that stood out the evening/morning these two were killed started with some phone calls made to Maytee re her son. She then tried to call Johnny and when he didn't answer, she went into a panic mode leading to visits to the Straub home, calling police and eventually finding the bodies. It is weird that you go to this extreme from one unanswered phone call. It makes you suspect that she knew something was going down, maybe, a possible robbery or whatever...who knows? Hell, my son doesn't answer all my calls because he doesn't want to talk to me..I don't hunt him down fearing that he has been murdered.. so that is the theory but nothing has ever come of it.

[d505]

i wonder if it was a robbery gone wrong set up by the clarkes why did they kill johnny. and what connection prior to the murderers did the clarkes have to sammy williams if any?

[Older Than Dirt]

Meanwhile back at the camp.
Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub
June 15
Happy Father's Day my sweet innocent BABYBOY Johnny I know you are with your babies from San and Lisa :"( love you so so much I know you are the best father too for you always took such good care of your lil brothers :"( love you miss you more then I can put into words......

[Duchess]

I don't know if Sam was part of this group of people but I do know that many of the same kids she hurls accusations at are the very same people that used to party on her porch. She has a history with many of them.

I'd just like to say that every time she bemoans the fact they were at Lisa's house that night it is because she kicked them out of her house. That was established in court.

One of the people who emails Mock anonymously insists the Clarkes had something to do with this crime. I'm told there are members of their own family who believe they played a role. Meh. I'm sure it was investigated and obviously nothing was discovered. I don't know why they all tolerate her daily lies, I'd sue her for every last dime and the house she lives in. She belongs in the gutter.

[BlueTiki]

. . . I find it so creepy that the Clarkes may have been involved in a set up gone wrong type thing.

The thing that stood out the evening/morning these two were killed started with some phone calls made to Maytee re her son.

It is weird that you go to this extreme from one unanswered phone call. It makes you suspect that she knew something was going down, maybe, a possible robbery or whatever...who knows? Hell, my son doesn't answer all my calls because he doesn't want to talk to me..I don't hunt him down fearing that he has been murdered.. so that is the theory but nothing has ever come of it.

I'd just like to say that every time she bemoans the fact they were at Lisa's house that night it is because she kicked them out of her house. That was established in court.

For all of her FB postings of endless love and dedication to her dead son, I found it odd that she, according to "Big John" never entered the home after the door was kicked in and the crime scene was contaminated.

C'mon! Wild horses couldn't keep me away from rushing in to aid and comfort my child!

But not so, with Maytee.

And this single act, by a mother, refutes all of her claims of devotion and love, plastered all over her "Justice" pages.

It begs the question: "Why?".

Sworn testimony established she booted Johnny out of her home. It is undeniable, irrefutable and was never challenged by the Clarke's, during the trial. They had an opportunity to "set the record straight", under oath and publicly, but they remained silent when it really mattered.

Yet, she continues to deliberately claim her son was at the house for the sole purpose of "protecting" Lisa, while her parents were away and leaving her to house sit.

It's all bullshit to make her son appear as a "hero" when all physical evidence confirms he had NO defensive wounds or protected Lisa in any way.

Johnny was no hero . . . he was a criminal kid . . . kicked-out by a criminal mom and dependent on the generosity of a loving girl and her family.

I believe, through Lisa and her family, Johnny briefly experienced genuine nurturing, security, love, decency and sanity in an atmosphere without dysfunctional, criminal parents ruling the roost.

I believe Lisa was everything that Maytee is not.

In my experience, those who choose the field of nursing are a special, caring breed. This is how I see Lisa and I believe Maytee loathed Lisa because of this.

Remember, Maytee threw Lisa under the bus, at the get-go, to divert JVM from probing into Johnny's armed robbery conviction and prison time.

"No . . . not my Johnny . . . look at his girlfriend!".

According to Maytee, Johnny had friends . . . not enemies.

Yeah . . . the same friends who testified, under oath, that Johnny owed money all over town, hung with thugs, did and sold drugs.

It was a May 2014 "Justice" post that really emphasized, to me, Maytee's true contempt, hatred, jealousy and rage of Lisa . . . "YOUR LIFE TO SAVE THAT GF OF YOURS".

"THAT GF . . ."

This was Maytee's consummate "tell" as to her true feelings about Lisa, for me.

It screams hatred.

And it came out!

So . . . for those of you who are seduced by the flowery accolades towards Lisa on the "Justice" site as being sincere . . . count me out.

It's lipstick on a pig.

[Duchess]

She's a POS and a goddamn drama hag. Only a retard would believe a word out of her mouth.

Johnny's grave site looks like a brothel. It's garish, much like Maytee herself.

I'd bet my bank account she googles garish.

[d505]

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For all of her FB postings of endless love and dedication to her dead son, I found it odd that she, according to "Big John" never entered the home after the door was kicked in and the crime scene was contaminated.

C'mon! Wild horses couldn't keep me away from rushing in to aid and comfort my child!

But not so, with Maytee.

And this single act, by a mother, refutes all of her claims of devotion and love, plastered all over her "Justice" pages.

It begs the question: "Why?".

Sworn testimony established she booted Johnny out of her home. It is undeniable, irrefutable and was never challenged by the Clarke's, during the trial. They had an opportunity to "set the record straight", under oath and publicly, but they remained silent when it really mattered.

Yet, she continues to deliberately claim her son was at the house for the sole purpose of "protecting" Lisa, while her parents were away and leaving her to house sit

Johnny was no hero . . . he was a criminal kid . . . kicked-out by a criminal mom and dependent on the generosity of a loving girl and her family.

I believe, through Lisa and her family, Johnny briefly experienced genuine nurturing, security, love, decency and sanity in an atmosphere without dysfunctional, criminal parents ruling the roost.

I believe Lisa was everything that Maytee is not.

In my experience, those who choose the field of nursing are a special, caring breed. This is how I see Lisa and I believe Maytee loathed Lisa because of this.

Remember, Maytee threw Lisa under the bus, at the get-go, to divert JVM from probing into Johnny's armed robbery conviction and prison time.

"No . . . not my Johnny . . . look at his girlfriend!".

According to Maytee, Johnny had friends . . . [i]not[/

It was a May 2014 "Justice" post that really emphasized, to me, Maytee's true contempt, hatred, jealousy and rage of Lisa . . . "YOUR LIFE TO SAVE THAT GF OF YOURS".

"THAT GF . . ."

This was Maytee's consummate "tell" as to her true feelings about Lisa, for me.

It screams hatred.

And it came out!

So . . . for those of you who are seduced by the flowery accolades towards Lisa on the "Justice" site as being sincere . . . count me out.

It's lipstick on a pig.
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great points!!! i wonder how lisa dealt with maycrazy. i wonder why her husband is still with her. not that he has brains but he seems to have a little bit more sense than maytee. interesting point that maytee did not "contaminate" the scene. yes, as a mother the last thing my mother instincts mind would be thinking about would be forensics. but she has a criminal mind..

[Duchess]

I received another anonymous email in our Mock account -

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For all of her FB postings of endless love and dedication to her dead son, I found it odd that she, according to "Big John" never entered the home after the door was kicked in and the crime scene was contaminated.
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Absolutely, this is a great observation. I have been saying this from day one about the inconsistent stories and lies from the Clarkes. Watch these videos for clues!. Maytee knows way too much and is covering her own ass.









For the record, Maytee hated Lisa. John doesn't leave Maytee because he is exactly like her with one exception....he is a much better actor.

[Duchess]

Justice for Johnny & Lisa
21 hours ago ·
I got a very fat lawsuit on that evil mocktards website.... And thee best civil Attorney even if you delete everything it has been copied and pasted and printed out for a very long time. Oh yeah time to make you evil tongues suffer the LEGAL WAY!!! Thanks for all your lies attacks etc..... We just won the lottery with your website!



You'd think that someone who has had so many up close & personal opportunities to witness how the law works would have a better understanding of it.

[ramseycat]

She thinks she's going to sue Mock? HAHAHAHAHA breathe HAHAHAHAHA

Hey Maytee, you have to be the stupidest bitch on the planet.

[Duchess]

Justice for Johnny & Lisa
June 30
$100,000 reward in a secured bank account for that one confidential person that comes forward and confirms what law enforcement already knows

[Older Than Dirt]

She is soooo crazy. Six hours ago she posted again about the reward. I don't know how she can keep this up. Oh, she's counting down the days until the 9^th. I think that Cousino is in court that day. Hard to keep up with her crap.

[Duchess]

There is no one who believes she has a $100,000.00 reward. No one. She's a liar but that's already been established. She looks ridiculous when she talks about hunting people and putting a bullet in their head. One day we'll read about her being arrested again, this time for terroristic threatening and then we'll have another of her mug shots to post. We'll simply add it to the myriad of mug shots we already have of her.

If any of you people that she calls hood rats are reading this you should look up the legal definition of terroristic threatening and you'll see that you have a hell of a good case against her. Mock has screen shots of every threat she's ever made on FB. I'd be delighted to turn them over to your attorney. Go for it.

[JsMom]

MayCray has a lovely message for us "Mocktards".

[Duchess]

She's quoting John Gotti now.

[truth be told]

Sam Williams has an appeal hearing Wed. Oct 1^st. The Clarkes have to be crapping in their pants. Anyone else curious on why no more arrest have been made in this case? It has been well documented that the Clarkes have been using intimidation on Alex C. Tiffany W. Zack B. and their family members. Threats, baseball bat beatings, guns to heads, filing false police reports against them, stalking....anyone still wondering why nobody is going to cops? All involved need to be behind bars.

[Duchess]

I don't really wonder why no one goes to the cops, that's the culture of those filthy savages. I only care about justice for Lisa, I have no fucks to give where Johnny and his parents are concerned, they are a big part of the reason Lisa is dead. Johnny was a thug who brought this on himself, he's the product of those who raised him. No one should be surprised, look at the example his parents set.

[truth be told]

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