Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered

[imsuchawildflower]

Looks like maytee is a grandma

https://www.facebook.com/maytee.vazquez?...riends.all

Can you copy and paste that? Nothing but my own fb is showing up.

[Adub]

Looks like maytee is a grandma

https://www.facebook.com/maytee.vazquez?...riends.all

Can you copy and paste that? Nothing but my own fb is showing up.

it works for, but I'll try again

https://www.facebook.com/maytee.vazquez?...riends.all

Maytee C Vasquez-Clarke

And the youngest son Jake Clarke has a page.

[BlueTiki]

If . . . and I do mean IF this would make it to trial

So you think some kind of plea bs will go down . . .

I do. Especially if the entry and seizure is deemed lawful.

Too many years of published threats and lies will be exceedingly difficult to merely explain away as a byproduct of grief.

And the fact that the attempted assassination of Tiffany Williams was not a solo act.

Her criminal record and that of Big Pussy John will be another obstacle for the defense to overcome.

And her statement of an alleged taped confession, a month before the shooting, demonstrates vigilantism and again, a complete disregard for the law.

Remember, she encouraged snitches to contact law enforcement.

But she sees herself as above the law.

The voice of Johnny is silent because she is scared shitless . . . not because of advice from counsel.

She should be scared.

Her lies and involvement are about to be made public.

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

[Duchess]

Thanks, Tiki. I value your opinion and it helps to see how confident you are regarding this. Sometimes I think she'll find a way to slither out of this and my faith in the justice system has taken a few hits.

[ramseycat]

If . . . and I do mean IF this would make it to trial

So you think some kind of plea bs will go down . . .

I do. Especially if the entry and seizure is deemed lawful.

Too many years of published threats and lies will be exceedingly difficult to merely explain away as a byproduct of grief.

And the fact that the attempted assassination of Tiffany Williams was not a solo act.

Her criminal record and that of Big Pussy John will be another obstacle for the defense to overcome.

And her statement of an alleged taped confession, a month before the shooting, demonstrates vigilantism and again, a complete disregard for the law.

Remember, she encouraged snitches to contact law enforcement.

But she sees herself as above the law.

The voice of Johnny is silent because she is scared shitless . . . not because of advice from counsel.

She should be scared.

Her lies and involvement are about to be made public.

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

I agree with all of this. And she can't use a in the heat of passion defense either. It's been too long and with all her threats, it won't fly. This was a planned attack and there's no getting around that.

[BlueTiki]

If it helps, think of it as the Judicial System and NOT the justice system.

Actually, I hope it goes to trial.

Maytee's stupidity and arrogance will be her doom.

And the outfits she would wear to court would get her at least 3 years.

Odd, isn't it, that another child flees from home and seeks the safety and refuge of a girlfriend?

Especially since that was Maytee's excuse for Johnny's death . . . being away from the safety and loving arms of mamma!

That bullshit line was another example, by Maytee, expressing her hatred of Lisa.

Keep grandma away from the baby!

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

[imsuchawildflower]

If . . . and I do mean IF this would make it to trial

So you think some kind of plea bs will go down . . .

I do. Especially if the entry and seizure is deemed lawful.

Too many years of published threats and lies will be exceedingly difficult to merely explain away as a byproduct of grief.

And the fact that the attempted assassination of Tiffany Williams was not a solo act.

Her criminal record and that of Big Pussy John will be another obstacle for the defense to overcome.

And her statement of an alleged taped confession, a month before the shooting, demonstrates vigilantism and again, a complete disregard for the law.

Remember, she encouraged snitches to contact law enforcement.

But she sees herself as above the law.

The voice of Johnny is silent because she is scared shitless . . . not because of advice from counsel.

She should be scared.

Her lies and involvement are about to be made public.

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

I sure hope the DA's office is aware of her online threats and can get it admitted as evidence.

[BlueTiki]

If I was Maytee's attorney, I'd want the posts from this thread as evidence.

And so does Maytee.

She'll claim it was Mock that pushed her to attempt to assassinate Tiffany Williams as she was a VICTIM of bullying.

Victim, victim, victim!

Oh wait . . . then the prosecution would be able to also include the posts containing snipped FB posts, corroborating her "Justice" posts!

Snap! She's fucked!

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

[BlueTiki]

With all of Maytee's FB posts, I'm curious as to the ones that her attorney would consider the most damning.

She's threatened, lied, boasted, challenged, promised, accused and spewed a unique and bizarre brand of hatred and phony grief.

So . . . if you had to defend this criminal mom, what FB posts of hers would cause you to lose sleep at night?

Would it be when she was the Slither Queen?

Or how about when she used strings of letters to convey her messages . . . YKWIMYFPOSMT!

Or the phony reward offers?

There's always the Lisa shit talk ones, too.

Oooo . . . how 'bout the creepy Johnny "incest" posts . . . good luck with those, counselor!

Maybe we should take a trip down memory lane, dust off some of the always crazy, mostly misspelled and decisively self-serving posts of Toledo's favorite criminal mom and wife and repost them?

Yup. Repost them for all to see.

Defense, prosecution and of course . . . scared shitless, Maytee.

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

[HairOfTheDog]

Were I her defense attorney, Tiki, the April 2014 gems I posted in the RANTINGS thread would cause me to lose the most sleep at night in light of the charges she now faces.

They're like a confession in advance. And remember, she even posted the faces of her declared prey on the FB page.

REPOST:

If anything ever happens to anyone on Maytee's "evil scum maggot - we and karma are gonna get you!" list, Maytee will be floating at the top of the suspect pool -- whether she had anything to do with it or not. She's short-sighted and lacking craftiness in her vigilantism, that's for sure.

From the Justice for Johnny and Lisa FB page - April 10^th

You sick evil demon monsters keep messing with my grandparents stuff or dare go over near Johnny ( which I will see you if you do there anyways) I do have a shovel in my trunk and some nice hollows for all you cowards!!!! POS monsters I'm out here and I do know where every last one of you and all your tainted bloodlines live so..... Get froggy and feel what happens! As matter of fact I'm out here now HUNTING WATCHING YOU.

And earlier that same the day...
I'm on the streets eff this isshh YES LEO SHERRIFFS DEPT WE ARE DOING YOUR JOB AGAIN JUST LIKE WE DID THE NIGHT YOU FAILED US and FAILED JOHNNY AND LISA JAN 31,3011!!!! We will call you so you can come clean up the mess when it's all said and done!

[Duchess]

Oooooo excellent!

I'm clapping like a seal.

[HairOfTheDog]

This nice Facebook exchange between Maytee and Tiffany just 2 months before the shooting would also make me sweat if I were her defense attorney.

(REPOSTED from upthread)

Here's what Maytee posted on Christmas morning:
Justice for Johnny and Lisa
December 25 at 12:15 am
This is the skank Tiffany Williams making threats... Uh oh she's mad she has alot of warrants and is afraid to either do life in prison or get MURKED? Pos heroin addict backpage nasty hoe. Steel hell awaits you and yes GOD TOLD ME JUST NOW.

Here's what Tiffany had posted on Dec. 11 and Dec. 13:
Tiffany Williams
December 13 at 4:28pm
Letta nigga try me, try me ima get this whole mua family and i aint play in wit nobody fuck around an catch a body

Tiffany Williams
December 11 at 8:20pm
I'm fed the fuck up.
Man fuck you psychotic ass people. You mise well lose My number an forget about ever talking to me but wait better yet I'm shutting this number off an you ain't got it. I tried an tried to get along an be civil with yaw but all yaw do is talk out your ass an lie. I wish yaw the best of luck with your investigation. Yaw are crazy an to much for me..just stay off my shit.

[Duchess]

I wonder if the dirty cop, Frank, is God.

[HairOfTheDog]

Maytee had been posting threats to harm anyone who she thought might be involved in the murders (or for other reasons, using that guise) for years. In April 2014, she was posting away about how she and John were hunting those on her list.

By December, it was clear from Tiffany's posts that Tiffany was aware and had tried to be cool about some kind of "investigation" that Maytee and company had undertaken. I'd bet Ramirez the dirty cop was involved at that point.

It seems likely to me that the Clarkes and/or Ramirez had been harassing and threatening Tiffany, based on her posts, and she warned them to step off.

Just two months later, someone fired a shot at Tiffany and John was apprehended hiding in the basement. I hope police have the bullet or a shell that matches one of the two guns found during the search of the Clarkes' home that night.

The FB posting content and time line is incriminating circumstantial evidence against the Clarkes, IMO.

[Older Than Dirt]

I can't find it in myself to be in TW's corner. That's all.

[BlueTiki]

I understand your position, OTD.

However, I can't stomach vigilantism . . . especially when the perpetrator is one who is constantly bleating "Justice".

Believe it or not, if someone took a shot at Maytee or Big Pussy John and was charged with the crime, I'd be posting justice for these despicable criminal parents, too.

And if you believe in vigilante or street justice, as does criminal mom Maytee, then perhaps Johnny's death was to settle a street score . . . and Lisa was killed because she witnessed the event?

Tiffany is someone's child . . . like Johnny and Lisa.

But this trio of attempted murderers didn't take that into consideration when they played judge, jury and executioner.

Let that hateful, ignorant, criminal bitch mom, Maytee explain herself on the stand.

Let's see Big Pussy John piss himself as he approaches the bench.

And how this POS cop assisted these two cowards with an attempted assassination.

Criminal mom Maytee and Big Pussy John attempted to murder Tiffany Williams.

They need to be held accountable.

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

Oh, by the way Maytee . . .I've been cataloging my favorite threat and hate posts, of yours!

Don't want to let them all out at once because there is so much time before your trial and would hate to "pull the trigger" too soon.

December 7 . . . how appropriate, for your cowardly act!

Poor, poor silenced voice of Johnny!

Scared shitless and hiding . . . with a Big Pussy of a man!

Hahaha!

[Older Than Dirt]

I have a very personal interest in this case. Close family ties with Lisa.

[BlueTiki]

I hope all associated with the Straub family eventually finds the comfort they so richly deserve.

I believe the Straub's display class and decency.

I believe Lisa died because of pieces of shit criminals . . . namely Maytee and Big Pussy John.

I believe street justice was the justification and motive to murder little pussy, criminal Johnny.

I believe criminal bitch Maytee and limp-dick, Big Pussy Criminal John knew of Johnny's crime and pending payback "justice".

I believe these piece of shit criminal parents were petrified with fear, for themselves, and therefore failed to prevent this tragedy.

I believe Lisa was an innocent and Johnny was a guilty, little criminal pussy, just like his parents.

I believe Maytee loathed . . . no hated, Lisa.

I believe these pieces of shit criminal parents, specifically lying bitch Maytee and Big Pussy John need to be held accountable for their attempted murder of another.

And if, Tiffany Williams is somehow connected to the deaths of little pussy criminal Johnny and innocent Lisa, that is a matter needing additional review and prosecution . . . NOT assassination.

It must be an unimaginable pain, that you and all who loved Lisa, continue to endure. Especially with such dignity and strength.

Please try and take the following words, not as being disrespectful to the Straub's or the memory of Lisa . . . but as a big ol' "Fuck You" to Toledo's criminal family . . . the Clarkes!

Justice for Tiffany Williams!

[Duchess]

I hope we have at least one Mocker who will be able to attend the trial. We had a few for Cam/Sam.

[BlueTiki]

Besides being found guilty, that is criminal Maytee's biggest fear.

I wouldn't be surprised she is begging her attorney to have her upcoming hearing closed to the public.

A coward, like Maytee, doesn't want the truth to come to light if the truth will expose her for the true criminal mother she is.

Any bets, this fearful voice of Johnny will claim a medical emergency to postpone her July hearing?

She and Big Pussy John are terrified.

And this hearing is only the beginning . . . !

Justice for Tiffany Williams!