(02-11-2011, 03:16 PM)fabulous Wrote: I don't know what I'm allowed to say/post or not allowed to say/post.. but about the ex bf "DB" ...
(I won't say his name)...but in Toledo/lucas county..if you live in the western suburbs..Maumee, SPringfiled twp, Holland, Sylvania, Monclova, Waterville..etc. and you get arrested/picked up/charged, etc. you are arraigned in Sylvania Municpal court. if you google sylvania court the website will come up.
if you do that and you put in the ex b/f's name YOU WILL find some criminal charges for him...and if you click on case information it will tell you how the case was adjudicated and what, if any, punishment he recieved.
If I"m allowed I'd post the link..but I don't think I"m allowed to do so... (I'm still learning here!)

(02-11-2011, 03:46 PM)an0n Wrote: what are the birth dates of LS and JC?

LS: Date of Birth: 12/21/1990
JC: April 15, 1989

it is OK to post records you locate that are related to people named in thread.

another court that we have here in Lucas County is in Oregon. I don't have time to search the court records for any of these people..sadly I have to go to work now : ( ha!
but it's oregon municpal court. it serves the sameway as Sylvania court does...but just for the eastside suburbs of Toledo. You can find it by googleing (is that a word!) it.
and for those non-local folks reading...when you see "CCNO" that's the Correction Center of Northwest Ohio. It's a regional jail.. so it goes county jail, regional jail..PRISON. I think people interchange ccno with prison. but you won't find inmates that are in CCNO on the ohio dept of corrections inmate search page. it's kind of confusing! ok...I'm off to work!

(02-11-2011, 03:33 PM)grey sweat pants Wrote: [quote='Lady Cop' pid='125981' dateline='1297299482']
pics in Johnny's mother's page.

i tried to find photos of Lisa's family and funeral, but couldn't. her funeral was very low-key and private.
i have a feeling Johnny's will be different.

You won't find any pictures of her funeral. It was VERY private as her family wanted.
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The family is not about publicity...they only wanted to bury their daughter privately and with love. The investigation is fully supported by them, but for them no pics or publicity will be found, she was their baby girl, they want her memory to remain intact and respectful, not publicly strewn, they are kind and good people....they are suffering and in silence they choose to stay only among those they love and trust. This is not so hard to understand or respect...they believe in the justice system and are holding on to that belief. Give them peace...they are not hiding anything, just ask that their grief be respected and private...I think this is admirable. They are not slinging mud at JC or his family, whether they think his associates caused this result, they are being wise and prudent and protecting their daughter even in death. Let them be an example of grace under extreme duress and pressure....let them grieve in private. They don't have to make a spectacle of their loss to know it is not forgotten and will be punished. Let them be, in the words of Paul McCartney...just let it be...an answer will be found, they do not have to participate in the same way JC's family chooses. I have great love, respect and admiration for this family and how they have handled this is not only amazing but in a way that is prudent to solving a case.

(02-11-2011, 04:03 PM)fabulous Wrote: another court that we have here in Lucas County is in Oregon. I don't have time to search the court records for any of these people..sadly I have to go to work now : ( ha!
but it's oregon municpal court. it serves the sameway as Sylvania court does...but just for the eastside suburbs of Toledo. You can find it by googleing (is that a word!) it.
and for those non-local folks reading...when you see "CCNO" that's the Correction Center of Northwest Ohio. It's a regional jail.. so it goes county jail, regional jail..PRISON. I think people interchange ccno with prison. but you won't find inmates that are in CCNO on the ohio dept of corrections inmate search page. it's kind of confusing! ok...I'm off to work!

I already searched Maumee Municipal Court for the "cast of characters" named or hinted at here. Nothing of any consequence. Maumee handles cases for the City of Maumee and the south western portion of Lucas County (outside of Toledo).

i have said a few times, Lisa's family has behaved with dignity in the face of horror. my heart goes out to them.

(02-11-2011, 04:11 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i have said a few times, Lisa's family has behaved with dignity in the face of horror. my heart goes out to them.

With my experience in CJ classes, psychology and sociology it all leads back to MS T....I hope she is ready, cuz she is better off if the police name her and she turns on the perps...Hispanic justice is not the same, I am not Hispanic but I have heard how it works and I could be wrong, but she is meeting with a vengeance even if it is a remote "possibility" she is not involved....JC's family thinks she is and well, from any retaliation I've learned or heard of...her time is limited....speculation is all they need for revenge and even though Toledo is considered small, it is a city of angry Hispanics...Goood Luck to MS T....getting pregnant with a few of their own and giving birth will not cut you any slack once you cross the line...they are vengeful and will get you if justice doesn't beat them to the punch...and then even....T has very few trusted allies left, I can guarantee that...in this community her JEALOUS cruelty has crossed the line.,,,she has no protection IMO...kinda like that...now I'm just being real. While I have no proof, jealousy was a motivator here and Ms T is a jealous bitch....hope you had fun bitch, ride soon to be done.. Gloves off, tried to remain kind, but she disgusts me......whether thru LE or the Hispanic community....you are just damaged, evil and welll.....only my opinion from my experience with Toledo and it's Hispanic community over the years.,,,not to sound vindictive, but I finger her, in one way or an other she is part of this & I AM CERTAIN they do too! Sorry for her luck, NOT they are not to be messed with because jail time is nothing to them for the revenge of lost loved ones...not just in Toledo, all over in their community.

ok this is rumor only, which i never take at face value...i heard someone has left dodge. remember i said i expect a couple people to flee? the killers are looking at death row. i have no confirmation anyone has in fact absconded. but whoever killed these kids is in a world of shit and they know it. Ohio WILL execute. and it's a long wait on death row especially if they are young.

I suddenly feel so guilty for venting....but I have tried t keep it on the high road and I can't stand this Ms. T....did they leave town? hmmmm? Love the can't execute if under 18 clause and as stupid as these people involved are...I think they got that. Don't have a clue who the underaged Z is but I am assuming they are betting on that...funny I am also afraid Ms. T and her associates made these choices based on her baby daddy murderer getting some respite because the shooter/victim was young...think they overlooked he was the victim first and had no or limited criminal activity.....sounds like she picked some junvenile's she slept with to do a jealous deed....I know i am over the top here...but this chick has finally gotten under my skin and PISSED me off!!! She has no feelings, her posts are disgusting, empty,irrelevant and self-serving...she is a sociopath....and she is pregnant....have a great ultrasound T...hope your having a girl just like you...whatever not, rescue these innocent children from her cold and calculating, jealous, coniving heart!!!!!

Interesting. JC's wake started at 2pm today. His mother was commenting on FB at 1PM. I know, I know everyone grieves differently, but seriously??

So sorry, I have now lost perspective and feel only anger...God bless the investigation....this shit is starting to get to me...I apologize because I have made comments that seem accusatory without proof. I respect this site and am sorry. It will all come out in the wash, I believe and hope. I apologize for my offensive comments again.

(02-11-2011, 04:56 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Interesting. JC's wake started at 2pm today. His mother was commenting on FB at 1PM. I know, I know everyone grieves differently, but seriously??

what was she saying? you can post facebook comments of principals here.

(02-11-2011, 04:58 PM)curiouscat Wrote: So sorry, I have now lost perspective and feel only anger...God bless the investigation....this shit is starting to get to me...I apologize because I have made comments that seem accusatory without proof. I respect this site and am sorry. It will all come out in the wash, I believe and hope. I apologize for my offensive comments again.

your opinion is exactly that, and protected speech. as long as no threats are made. sounds like you have a personal reason for feeling so strongly.

(02-11-2011, 04:58 PM)curiouscat Wrote: I apologize for my offensive comments again.

Posting in Mock means never having to say you're sorry.

(02-11-2011, 02:20 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: Wow, that LS's exboyfriend BD is a busy, busy boy! He is adding friends like nobody's business!
Funny, I see he and Ms.T have a friend in common, and that friend is friends with everyone, except LS! Funny I thought Ms.T was LS's current boyfriend's friend JC, but she shares a mutal friend with LS's ex BD....things that make you go Hmmmm...

How can I see the FB page of BD? I can't figure out how you guys found this person! Could you PM me the link?

(02-11-2011, 04:58 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-11-2011, 04:56 PM)RaisingAPrince Wrote: Interesting. JC's wake started at 2pm today. His mother was commenting on FB at 1PM. I know, I know everyone grieves differently, but seriously??

what was she saying? you can post facebook comments of principals here.

I have access to both the RIP Johnny & Justice for JC & LS pages & haven't seen her post anything a hour ago. Late this morning she posted ;,,,,,,,( that was it. I don't have access to Maytees personal page which is private though.

RIP Johnny & Justice for JC & LS

yes, both of those are public.

I have no inside info, and those who do certainly have presented some compelling evidence that appears to implicate Tiffany, but it still seems odd to me that she would be the perp. Even among the most notorious killers in history, I can't recall someone being involved in a brutal murder who is also the one who first involved the police, alerted relatives to the event, and even drove the father of the victim to the scene. It seems that she is a real piece of work, but that would be a level of coldness almost unparalleled in the history of criminals. Can a female really be worse than some of the worst killers in history?

welcome to Mock Spalding~~

and yes, females can be the coldest and most ruthless of killers. i've known a few of them and studied more of them.

(02-11-2011, 05:00 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-11-2011, 04:58 PM)curiouscat Wrote: So sorry, I have now lost perspective and feel only anger...God bless the investigation....this shit is starting to get to me...I apologize because I have made comments that seem accusatory without proof. I respect this site and am sorry. It will all come out in the wash, I believe and hope. I apologize for my offensive comments again.

your opinion is exactly that, and protected speech. as long as no threats are made. sounds like you have a personal reason for feeling so strongly.

Not personal, just driven by my own CJ trainiing classes and the crap I've seen from her....it doesn't take a rocket scientist, though we can not presume to know, it keeps on adding up to her knowing something. I'm just tired of how fearless she seems, to not react and make her FB private is just as odd...she has counsel of some bad sort. She has left it public, but she is careful in her comments even for a dumbass like her...toooooo obvious even for us junior dectectives. One thing blaring and obvious she is willing to sleep with anyone, has deep rooted insecurity issues and is comoletely without a sense of sympathy....she herself by her own actions has shown herself to be a sociopath....if she is not then she still needs immediate attention to her lack of remorse, attachment or overall emotional instablility. Just because she posts she loves her kids...doesn't mean she does or doesn't and if you have to post it for the world to see....hmmmmm we all are clever enough to know what that means....I have to stop I have now become too pissed off to be rational!!!