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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-13-2011, 11:06 PM)sharit Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:48 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: When I read that someone was a gang member since the age of ten, I realized that I am completely out of my element in understanding any of this. 10? It is inconceivable to me that a ten year old could have any exposure let alone freedom to be a gang member. Was this a typo?
parental guidance=F

Many kids are just born i to it. It is a cycle, that keeps growing and growing.

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(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:40 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)Cracker Wrote: You fucking idiots. Those reports are about IRAQI detention centers run by IRAQ. "Former US" means we LEFT THE DAMN PLACE FOR THEM TO RUN.

Jesus Christ you people come from the stupidest state in the union.

You better read up on Abu Ghraib for starters, fool.

Yes, THAT is relevant to this case, too, tard. /s It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

How about this, people of Toledo: At least two of you raised drug dealers. One of them killed the other one and a beautiful, innocent girl in a disgusting manner. It wasn't slave owners or the government. IT WAS YOU! YOU have made your city into a miserable place to live and allowed your youth to behave in absolutely horrific and unacceptable ways. Your economy is shot, your schools are terrible, and the future is bleak. Instead of doing something REAL to fix the situation, you sit on FaceBook all day and concentrate your efforts on two kids that are already gone. You can't fix this. It is beyond repair.

Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth. Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear. Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.

YOU GOT TO LOVE CRACKER'S COMMENTS!!!!!!!
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wondering. is there any proof that tiffany and any of her friends were really at lisas house in the nights prior. the people johnny was with earlier that night did he say to them he was picking up tiffany. maybe tiff never really spoke to johnny. wish le would say somthing maybe confirm some cell phone pings. they have to know the scrutiny she is under.
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(02-13-2011, 11:08 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote: YOU GOT TO LOVE CRACKER'S COMMENTS!!!!!!!

I know I'm blunt. I'm pragmatic. I volunteer my time with a group that helps at-risk kids do better in school and start pre-planning for college and another group that helps teenage prostitutes (huge problem in GA). I may not solve any crimes, but I am sure trying to prevent them. Smiley_emoticons_smile

Most of the posters in this thread seem like decent, caring citizens. There are a few that are so off-base and irritating that I can't stomach reading much of this. That's too bad because I'm sure I'm missing some good stuff because it is overshadowed by BS.
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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(02-13-2011, 11:07 PM)netsleuth Wrote: The term sadist (used by police) comes to mind again.
Quote:I'm sorry, but this is stretching it. One does not have anything to do with the other.

Which is why I used the term "may." I don't think it's much of a stretch given who this person is and the fact that he said he went to Iraq to legally kill, and will not discuss his time there.

I'm not suggesting the entire military is prone to plastic bag murders. Quite the contrary. I have active family members.
I have a father in law that was in WWII that won't discuss his time either. Does that mean that he did crazy crap? NO, he was a medic and deals with it internally. Maybe the war effected him.

This is crap and stretching it and does not pertain to this case.
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(02-13-2011, 11:05 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:43 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:29 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:07 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:00 PM)Adub Wrote: If this is some sort of pay-back, could it be related to DC?

Was JC known to befriend the shooters of DC?

I haven't gotten there yet. But, Tyler MaCrae, the one with the gun is tied in with VD(legacy.com), JC(RIP) 's neighbor and boyhood friend. MaCrae and Dominguez grew up together for sure, and JC(RIP) was also neighbors in the neighborhood.

What has really got me pondering all the connections is a comment from VD's homie(lol) that said "Johnny who?" in response to a comment of "RIP Johnny". He had to know who Johnny was, he was from the neighbor'hood'. Why make that comment?

The part in bold^^^ Where did you see that at?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1...1712582386

Ahhh ok I see it now. Thank you! Smiley_emoticons_smile

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(02-13-2011, 11:15 PM)Mommabear Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:07 PM)netsleuth Wrote: The term sadist (used by police) comes to mind again.
Quote:I'm sorry, but this is stretching it. One does not have anything to do with the other.

Which is why I used the term "may." I don't think it's much of a stretch given who this person is and the fact that he said he went to Iraq to legally kill, and will not discuss his time there.

I'm not suggesting the entire military is prone to plastic bag murders. Quite the contrary. I have active family members.
I have a father in law that was in WWII that won't discuss his time either. Does that mean that he did crazy crap? NO, he was a medic and deals with it internally. Maybe the war effected him.

This is crap and stretching it and does not pertain to this case.

Thank you for that. You have redeemed your home state for me. hahaha

Some people can't resist injecting their own personal dysfunction into every subject upon which they speak. They live in anger and blame and never realize THEY are the problem. Anger and blame begets anger and blame. And people wonder why kids are so effed up these days...
(03-15-2013, 07:12 PM)aussiefriend Wrote: You see Duchess, I have set up a thread to discuss something and this troll is behaving just like Riotgear did.
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(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote: .. It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

The Man? You're about four decades behind the times. I'm not surprised. Further, I'm not the one who hates Government, here. You and your ilk are. I simply acknowledged what is in the public domain. Bush, Rummy, Cheney and the gang ordered torture. I also acknowledge the painful history of this nation. The one you wish to pretend, doesn't exist.

Quote:Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth.

I have volunteered. And I'm not feigning superiority. I happen to know I'm better than the likes of you. In fact, I bet you sit in Church on Sunday and pretend you're a "good Christian" don't you?

Quote:Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear.

I welcome your disgust. And, I'm not blaming anyone but the sadistic hoodlums who committed this crime. THEY ALONE are responsible.

Quote:Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.

Entitlement? Isn't that what you want? You dismiss anyone who wants equal footing with white men, right? Also, I'd venture to guess my post pregnancy ass is less wide than yours? And, that you spew your hate from a trailer to boot.
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(02-13-2011, 11:20 PM)Cracker Wrote: Some people can't resist injecting their own personal dysfunction into every subject upon which they speak. They live in anger and blame and never realize THEY are the problem. Anger and blame begets anger and blame. And people wonder why kids are so effed up these days...

This from the proud racist who calls the first lady a Gorilla? Talk about anger and blame. It's you who feels that white people are victims of taxation, no?

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btw Nets...i have sent you 2 PMs to which you have not replied. are you ignoring me, or do you not know how to reply? thankyou.

















































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(02-13-2011, 11:21 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote: .. It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

The Man? You're about four decades behind the times. I'm not surprised. Further, I'm not the one who hates Government, here. You and your ilk are. I simply acknowledged what is in the public domain. Bush, Rummy, Cheney and the gang ordered torture. I also acknowledge the painful history of this nation. The one you wish to pretend, doesn't exist.

Quote:Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth.

I have volunteered. And I'm not feigning superiority. I happen to know I'm better than the likes of you. In fact, I bet you sit in Church on Sunday and pretend you're a "good Christian" don't you?

Quote:Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear.

I welcome your disgust. And, I'm not blaming anyone but the sadistic hoodlums who committed this crime. THEY ALONE are responsible.

Quote:Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.

Entitlement? Isn't that what you want? You dismiss anyone who wants equal footing with white men, right? Also, I'd venture to guess my post pregnancy ass is less wide than yours? And, that you spew your hate from a trailer to boot.

This was uncalled for. I believe this is a personal attack. Stop it!
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(02-13-2011, 11:16 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:05 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:43 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:29 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:07 PM)netsleuth Wrote: Was JC known to befriend the shooters of DC?

I haven't gotten there yet. But, Tyler MaCrae, the one with the gun is tied in with VD(legacy.com), JC(RIP) 's neighbor and boyhood friend. MaCrae and Dominguez grew up together for sure, and JC(RIP) was also neighbors in the neighborhood.

What has really got me pondering all the connections is a comment from VD's homie(lol) that said "Johnny who?" in response to a comment of "RIP Johnny". He had to know who Johnny was, he was from the neighbor'hood'. Why make that comment?

The part in bold^^^ Where did you see that at?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1...1712582386

Ahhh ok I see it now. Thank you! Smiley_emoticons_smile

IMO, He was disrespecting Johnny. So the question is why? Homies are all about respect.
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(02-13-2011, 11:15 PM)Cracker Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:08 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote: YOU GOT TO LOVE CRACKER'S COMMENTS!!!!!!!

I know I'm blunt. I'm pragmatic. I volunteer my time with a group that helps at-risk kids do better in school and start pre-planning for college and another group that helps teenage prostitutes (huge problem in GA). I may not solve any crimes, but I am sure trying to prevent them. Smiley_emoticons_smile

Most of the posters in this thread seem like decent, caring citizens. There are a few that are so off-base and irritating that I can't stomach reading much of this. That's too bad because I'm sure I'm missing some good stuff because it is overshadowed by BS.

Yes and from the look of your new AV, you have gone to the Miss Truvy's beauty palor and got your hair coiffed and a manicure. You look marvelous.....
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(02-13-2011, 11:08 PM)doing40thisyear Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:40 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)Cracker Wrote: You fucking idiots. Those reports are about IRAQI detention centers run by IRAQ. "Former US" means we LEFT THE DAMN PLACE FOR THEM TO RUN.

Jesus Christ you people come from the stupidest state in the union.

You better read up on Abu Ghraib for starters, fool.

Yes, THAT is relevant to this case, too, tard. /s It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

How about this, people of Toledo: At least two of you raised drug dealers. One of them killed the other one and a beautiful, innocent girl in a disgusting manner. It wasn't slave owners or the government. IT WAS YOU! YOU have made your city into a miserable place to live and allowed your youth to behave in absolutely horrific and unacceptable ways. Your economy is shot, your schools are terrible, and the future is bleak. Instead of doing something REAL to fix the situation, you sit on FaceBook all day and concentrate your efforts on two kids that are already gone. You can't fix this. It is beyond repair.

Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth. Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear. Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.

YOU GOT TO LOVE CRACKER'S COMMENTS!!!!!!!

Yes, especially where she refers to blacks as Gorilla's and suggests that Ohio as a state is now redeemed because a member of that state didn't care for my commentary.
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but if you read his FB page...he's all about JC...respecting him, he went to his showing, he said he was like a brother to him....etc etc.
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(02-13-2011, 11:24 PM)Mommabear Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:21 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote: .. It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

The Man? You're about four decades behind the times. I'm not surprised. Further, I'm not the one who hates Government, here. You and your ilk are. I simply acknowledged what is in the public domain. Bush, Rummy, Cheney and the gang ordered torture. I also acknowledge the painful history of this nation. The one you wish to pretend, doesn't exist.

Quote:Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth.

I have volunteered. And I'm not feigning superiority. I happen to know I'm better than the likes of you. In fact, I bet you sit in Church on Sunday and pretend you're a "good Christian" don't you?

Quote:Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear.

I welcome your disgust. And, I'm not blaming anyone but the sadistic hoodlums who committed this crime. THEY ALONE are responsible.

Quote:Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.

Entitlement? Isn't that what you want? You dismiss anyone who wants equal footing with white men, right? Also, I'd venture to guess my post pregnancy ass is less wide than yours? And, that you spew your hate from a trailer to boot.

This was uncalled for. I believe this is a personal attack. Stop it!

Talkin to me or the racist who called me an entitled fat ass?

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Bear: This was uncalled for. I believe this is a personal attack. Stop it!


personal attacks are allowed here. just not threats.
but i don't allow threads in the crime forum to go off track with personal bullshit.

Nets see post 2450.

















































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(02-13-2011, 11:26 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:16 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:05 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:43 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:29 PM)Adub Wrote: I haven't gotten there yet. But, Tyler MaCrae, the one with the gun is tied in with VD(legacy.com), JC(RIP) 's neighbor and boyhood friend. MaCrae and Dominguez grew up together for sure, and JC(RIP) was also neighbors in the neighborhood.

What has really got me pondering all the connections is a comment from VD's homie(lol) that said "Johnny who?" in response to a comment of "RIP Johnny". He had to know who Johnny was, he was from the neighbor'hood'. Why make that comment?

The part in bold^^^ Where did you see that at?

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1...1712582386

Ahhh ok I see it now. Thank you! Smiley_emoticons_smile

IMO, He was disrespecting Johnny. So the question is why? Homies are all about respect.

(02-13-2011, 11:29 PM)fabulous Wrote: but if you read his FB page...he's all about JC...respecting him, he went to his showing, he said he was like a brother to him....etc etc.

I somehow messed my post up...it's late Time for bed : )
I was trying to referrence the earlier post...and then I tried to delete it and do it over...ahhhh whateves! i hope you get what I was trying to say!
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(02-13-2011, 10:43 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 10:31 PM)kitty1 Wrote: someone asked about Lisa's funeral and I don't know if i posted this or not. it was private, but word of mouth got around so many people were there. the people that the family did not want there were not there and wouldn't have been allowed in. She looked good but of course not like she was in life. you have all seen the pictures. she was adorable freckles and all. they had lots of pictures and and a book she had written about what she expected her future to be like. her dreams, her goals and her heros. that was difficult to read. of course i was looking in the crowd for suspicious people. i saw no "thugz or gangstas" or any even remotely close to that. her family is dignified, respectful and know how to speak and write using all the vowels and consonants.

Thanks for this info Kitty. I am curious if her ex was there or if he was one that wasn't allowed?

i'm not sure about that. there were pics of him there. one of the reasons for the police presence was to keep Maytee and her entourage away
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(02-13-2011, 11:29 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:24 PM)Mommabear Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:21 PM)netsleuth Wrote:
(02-13-2011, 11:03 PM)Cracker Wrote: .. It's always the government, isn't it? You will find a way to blame slave owners or the The Man for this crime.

The Man? You're about four decades behind the times. I'm not surprised. Further, I'm not the one who hates Government, here. You and your ilk are. I simply acknowledged what is in the public domain. Bush, Rummy, Cheney and the gang ordered torture. I also acknowledge the painful history of this nation. The one you wish to pretend, doesn't exist.

Quote:Volunteer your time helping young people instead. Then you can pretend you are superior, netsleuth.

I have volunteered. And I'm not feigning superiority. I happen to know I'm better than the likes of you. In fact, I bet you sit in Church on Sunday and pretend you're a "good Christian" don't you?

Quote:Because I'm mostly disgusted by you and your liberal propaganda and the cloak of blame you wear.

I welcome your disgust. And, I'm not blaming anyone but the sadistic hoodlums who committed this crime. THEY ALONE are responsible.

Quote:Be relevant instead of a big-mouthed, fat-assed gossip hen that adds nothing to society except a negativity and an attitude of entitlement.

Entitlement? Isn't that what you want? You dismiss anyone who wants equal footing with white men, right? Also, I'd venture to guess my post pregnancy ass is less wide than yours? And, that you spew your hate from a trailer to boot.

This was uncalled for. I believe this is a personal attack. Stop it!

Talkin to me or the racist who called me an entitled fat ass?

She is not a racist. She just states her opinions bluntly and not in the PC manner that you would like to see. Sorry, but I am not PC either. However, You both have crossed the line.

Do this crap in another thread please.
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