Yes, but I was referring to the black tape.

Black Duct Tape has different properties than the silver we probably have in our drawers or garages.

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I can't help but to wonder,Johnny's mom was on the phone with the LE,she said T set my son up,why do we not hear T in the back ground yelling like what the hell.Than Johnny's mom handed the phone to T to talk to LE.That is Weird or am I wrong

welcome to Mock Broke~~

I can't help but to wonder,Johnny's mom was on the phone with the LE,she said T set my son up,why do we not hear T in the back ground yelling like what the hell.Than Johnny's mom handed the phone to T to talk to LE.That is Weird or am I wrong
I totally agree...Way too calm

I know it was said about the vid VD posted, but did anyone notice this comment under it?

Yeah what ever ____ ur still a little dude! Hey I might have some light work for u in the suburbs call ur cuzz.

Didn't AG refer to someone as their cuzz?

Sorry if this is repeated info.

(02-15-2011, 09:00 PM)purplepegasus Wrote: I know it was said about the vid VD posted, but did anyone notice this comment under it?

Yeah what ever ____ ur still a little dude! Hey I might have some light work for u in the suburbs call ur cuzz.

Didn't AG refer to someone as their cuzz?

Sorry if this is repeated info.

I think "cuzz" is just as common as "bro" "Cuzz" is also a name that Crips call one another.

A couple things, black duct tape is more common then most of you think, it can be found at any local hardware store. Electrical tape would not be strong enough to secure a bag over someones or tie their hands and feet up. Another thought, what if TW/AG and their accomplices were the only people over for the "pool party" the night before. They then come back the next night and commit the crime, DNA and fingerprints are explained by them being at the house the night before. under these circumstances if the suspects do not roll over on each other LE does not have a leg to stand on, just a thought.
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OAM: what if TW/AG and their accomplices were the only people over for the "pool party" the night before. They then come back the next night and commit the crime, DNA and fingerprints are explained by them being at the house the night before.



yes, i mentioned that earlier. any useful DNA/prints have to be directly linked to murders vis-a-vis tape or bags. and there was unknown blood at scene.


did i welcome you One-Armed? if not, welcome. didn't i see you in The Fugitive?

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub These alleged threats are NOT being made through Facebook but in person in the Ohio area. They are NOT being made by people who are guilty of the crime. I don't know why you guys can't get that straight. The alleged threats are being made by people to people who the people think are involved in the murder, not by the murderers or their friends.
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i've given up trying to edit out all the names of the facebook posters. if they put them out there in public, they're fair game to quote here.

Lady Cop and Duchess
As a side note and a Newbee...Great Site! You both do a great job. Has any other case drawn this much attention on your site?

(02-15-2011, 09:34 PM)mick45 Wrote: Lady Cop and Duchess
As a side note and a Newbee...Great Site! You both do a great job. Has any other case drawn this much attention on your site?

we thought Petit trial and Zahra case were huge. but this has captured even more participation. you can see the numbers of replies/views of each case by clicking on Lady Cop's Cell Block forum for a full list of cases/stats.

and thankyou for very kind words~~

Check this out....here's a wake up call for those who believe
gangs don't exist:

ToledoPoliceDepartment ( Author)

said this on 27 Jul 2010 3:50:58 AM EST
In Toledo, OH. These are the main gang that our unit is aiming for and there colors and territories.{WestSide}BLOODS (red) 1000 Fernwood, 2400 Hollywood & Lawrence, Prospect, Smith Park Mafia, 900 Pinewood. CRIPS (blue) 1100 Woodstock, 1000 Parkside, Joffery, Auburn, X-Blocc=Glenwood,Scottwood,Highland. {NorthSide}PIRUS (Maroon) 2200 Kent. BLOODS (red) 3300 Stickney, Page, Chase. CRIPS (blue) Cherrywoods= Ontario,Walnut, BeeHive= Rockingham,Fulton {EastSide}BLOODS (red) Whiler Homes, The Ville. CRIPS (blue) Burmingham Terrace {SouthSide}GD FOLKS (black) 300 Division, 1100 Belmont, 900 Vance, Tecumseh, 1200 Buckingham, Hamilton Park Gangsters, City Park Mafia {HillSide} (green) Torrington, 300 Wenz, Sleepy Hollow Park Boyz {SouthEnd}CHOLOZ (baby blue) 900 Venton,
300 Western. **CRIPS (blue) 300 Western Locs**
BLOODS (red) 900 Orchard And 600 Thayer. GOONS (grey) 1100 Walbridge, Deer Field Goons, 1400 Colton, 400 Hiett.



Southend President ( Author)

said this on 25 May 2010 12:27:13 PM EST
fucc yall hoenuts 2oC'z ,Cholo's, and Crips run the southend we murda shit 4 real and been holdin it down and been in the news way longer than yall fake gangs who get courted in are gang actually has a spine and respect we dont walk around and be like on da g's all the time cuz if we blow up our shit some one will blow out your jaw you cant just walk in our gang like the hoenuts and slobz plus we torch shit dont you like stayin in your house then dont run mouth

www.knowgangs.com/gangsofamerica/articles/46353/1/Toledo

(02-15-2011, 07:35 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-15-2011, 07:32 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(02-15-2011, 07:14 PM)penalt Wrote: per lisa's uncle/ch 13.....murderers clearly looking for safe, ransacked house punching holes in walls, pictures removed from walls....and there never was a safe in the house....computers, flat screen tv's, other valuables untouched....he does not know of any leads

That's troubling.

LE would not necessarily be sharing details of investigation even with family members of deceased.

They have leads, her uncle knows that too....there is obviously a reason that LE wants it to seem that they don't, just give them some time...they are still waiting on the DNA and DO have leads...even if people doubt the competency of the Lucas County detectives, the BCI and FBI have been working with them on this case since day one, which is apparent in the fact that they are using some strategies not often seen in Toledo murder cases, such as the investigation is very tight lipped (which is odd for around here) and the article they last released that straight out gave the profile of the killer/killers...hmmmmm I sense a pyschological strategy orchestrated as a trap of sorts

Here is a link to Toledo Channel 13...

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7961012

(02-15-2011, 10:17 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Here is a link to Toledo Channel 13...

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7961012

good video of Lisa's uncle. thanks~
and confirmation reward is now $10 K. that could grow with private donations.

(02-15-2011, 10:17 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Here is a link to Toledo Channel 13...

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?sectio...id=7961012

Thanks for the link, I missed that on the news and I live here in Toledo!

(02-15-2011, 09:25 PM)rotten_cotton Wrote: Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub These alleged threats are NOT being made through Facebook but in person in the Ohio area. They are NOT being made by people who are guilty of the crime. I don't know why you guys can't get that straight. The alleged threats are being made by people to people who the people think are involved in the murder, not by the murderers or their friends.
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all of this has been deleted from the justice page now