I"m sure I'll be coming off as bitchy and judgemental...but COME ON!!!
people really think that TW logged on last night and answered questions truthfully ?????
she's a major player/suspect in a double homicide/robbery/ DEATH PENALTY case here in Lucas county and you think she's gonna just randomly pop on our forum and start fielding questions by complete strangers?
she is hardcore. her people are hardcore. tthey're criminals. She doesn't have custody of her kids!!!! the facts that we do know speak for themselves!
I'm not buying it!!!
all of the sudden last night she was like blah blah blah "thank you and God Bless you"...OMG COME ON?
she called her friend "minor friend"...hahaha that made me laugh.
her story might "match up" but it's still SHADY.

Shady McShady in my mind and I don't buy half of what she was saying...and I don't even know if I believe that it was her last night posting here...

i never in a million years thought maytee had any active involvement in her son's death. she's welcome here as well.

(02-16-2011, 10:46 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-16-2011, 10:42 PM)doing40^thisyear Wrote:

(02-16-2011, 10:28 PM)Love Hippos Wrote:

(02-16-2011, 10:25 PM)doing40^thisyear Wrote: Im sorry But ...I still dont believe anything TW says. Sorry...I think she was involved in my opinion.

I have to say I agree, but I'll be happy to eat my words if it turns out she's innocent.

I glad someone is agreeing! Her answers to the questions were not jiving. Also why cant you answer....that they( JC AND LS) were into drugs or not, you putting everything else out there.

from what I gather, Johnny & Lisa were her friends. I wouldn't answer questions like that about my deceased friends either, if it were me.

Agree with Jane. Besides, her non-answer was pretty much an answer in itself, kwim? I mean, if they def were not into drugs, she probably would've said so.

I feel certain that it has already been established that these kids did drugs and the question was redundant.

It always get so quiet after I post. Are you wary of me? Don't be.

(02-17-2011, 09:07 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: i never in a million years thought maytee had any active involvement in her son's death. she's welcome here as well.

If anyone reading this has a personal relationship with her I'd like to extend an invitation to her, I'm sure we all would welcome her input.

(02-16-2011, 11:38 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-16-2011, 11:34 PM)jash Wrote: TH

Quote:ANK YOU! her answers are the same, good grief! You ARE making sense, lol I'm with you! Some of the things we're questioning are all things Maytee said, NOT Tiffany. I need a cigarette!!!!

I've smoked about a pack tonite wading thru all this stuff! lol TIFF WAS consistent on here tonite..no change of story posted here.

exactly! Her answers 'fit' with everything that 'went down', as far as the 911 calls go. I believe her.

I agree with u about the 911 calls!

I still think it was brave of TW to come to Mock yesterday. Whether she's being honest or whether she has any active part in the murders is still to be seen. I am open-minded enough to hear all sides.
Still have a gut feeling that LE has no clue what went down, especially since the reward recently increased from 5k to 10k.

LadyCop/Duchess- do you believe TW's comment that her boyfriend passed the lie detector? I thought those results weren't yet released?????????????

(02-17-2011, 09:48 AM)kfran Wrote: I still think it was brave of TW to come to Mock yesterday. Whether she's being honest or whether she has any active part in the murders is still to be seen. I am open-minded enough to hear all sides.
Still have a gut feeling that LE has no clue what went down, especially since the reward recently increased from 5k to 10k.

LadyCop/Duchess- do you believe TW's comment that her boyfriend passed the lie detector? I thought those results weren't yet released?????????????

the reward is private donations. nothing to do with the LE reward for tips.

people are NOT generally told whether they "passed or failed" a poly. but they may be asked to re-take one.

LC- I strongly believe that TW & "her crew" believe her boyfriend passed because he wasn't arrested. I don't think it has anything to do w/them actually being told a result. Either that or TW's boyfriend lied & told ppl that he passed.

(02-17-2011, 09:48 AM)kfran Wrote: LadyCop/Duchess- do you believe TW's comment that her boyfriend passed the lie detector? I thought those results weren't yet released?????????????

I really don't know what to think, all my energy is spent trying to keep an open mind. I NEVER forget that this is the internet & people can say anything they are moved to say whether that be fact or fiction.

(02-17-2011, 12:17 AM)doing40^thisyear Wrote:

(02-17-2011, 12:16 AM)tiffwill123 Wrote:

(02-17-2011, 12:10 AM)curious Wrote:

(02-16-2011, 10:50 PM)doing40^thisyear Wrote: [quote='pspence' pid='128905' dateline='1297907508']
I am so proud of Tiffany. I knew from the start that she has had nothing to do with this and was just trying to help the whole time. I'm so glad she has come on here to defend herself...she has a good heart.

I know that good heart shows in her rap sheet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i bet half the people on this forum either have a rap sheet and probably have dabled with drugs at some point in their life, or just damn lucky they never got caught...unlike 95% of toledo (kidding)

no seriously, major kuddos to you tiff, who impo happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time...and by joining here tonight defending her truth, is someone i wouldn't mind having my back.

thank you

sorry but my i dont have a rap sheet

I dont have a rap sheet either but that dont make us any more human then the next! I have friends with rap sheets whom never involve me in their mess! Just sayin....

Anyone else notice the Justice for JC and LS page is completely gone now??

(02-17-2011, 07:55 AM)pspence Wrote: I am absolutely totally obsessed with this case...two such attractive kids and from all accounts kids with great personalities ...Tiffany's parents are good people and had real concerns but knew she was over the moon in love with JC... wanted to keep her home and help put Johnny on the right track ...don't be judgemental about her parents because anyone with grown children know you can't pick who they fall for...plus, from what I understand Johnny was a fun cute guy with potential they saw to be a great guy...I feel so sorry for M also and how crazed she must be over the loss of her darling son...however the following is the bottom line...after communicating with a man close to the case I think these are the following scenarios:

a) Johnny bragged about the safe being in this affluent home and the wrong "gangsta wannabe sociopaths" heard about it...simple robbery as motive with the gangsta finish (tape/bags) to these 2 precious people...

b) Someone Johnny told on in prison had revenge - robbery secondary.

c) This will blow everyone away...but I heard (totally rumor) from someone close to the case locally...that "M" is not her real name and that her husb got busted awhile back with a truck with heroin in it. "M" turned informant for lesser sentence (or no sentence)...and even told on own family members to save their own skin (not sure I wouldn't have done the very same thing in the same circumstances - however I am a 100% drug free law abiding citizen) ...anyway...this snitching involved telling on some big time dealers - some of which - involved members of her own family which were in the Cuban mafia...did this as a revenge hit to get back at "M" ---to hurt someone she loved most in the world- robbery secondary motive. Also to send msg to all in that world "anyone snitches - this is what will happen to you"....M may have always worried this could happen and reason so freaked out...LE of course knows this as possibility IF this info is true. Heard "M" isn't even real name. So sad because of the love, loss and tragic circumstance...also heard J wasn't an angel and yes, the scales and baggies...they were smokin' a little pot but he really was trying to turn his life around and loved LS' parents...

If you are referring to Maytee, I went to school with her and that is indeed her real name. So that would be false.

Honestly. You all act like she got on here an said something different then what she told LE. Her story hasn't changed. why would it. shes not going to confess on an online forum. This is a lie right here "if i knew who did this yes i would tell the police." That's coming from a "DOWN ASS BITCH WHO RIDES FOR HER NIGAS AND BITCHES." Her boyfriends hates snitches. I mean utterly hates snitches. I've show personal proof of her boyfriend having a Tattoo on his forearm that says STOP SNITCHING and shirts and other clothing that says snitches need to hang and we'll cut your fucking throat. Yes these are the type of people she hangs out with. What you saw on here was proper Tiffany, but she has a whole other side to her which you know nothing about. Notice she wont go into questions about her own life? She wont answer anything about drugs. And she states " ...come on its all rumors what they saying about me. so that should tell you something." I can guarantee you what I have said on here personally has not been rumors. She say "it is true they used the garage door to get in the house" no one knows how they entered or exited through the house. She states "no i was not going alone another one of are friends was going also. Another one of her friends was going also? which indicates 2 people were going with her over to LS. She states johnny said " bro who are you" then she said he said he kept sayn "bro wut r u doin" which one is it?

*Finds it to be just hilarious that her boyfriend was sitting at home doing a paper for school. Maybe we wants to upgrade to blue collar crimes.

I want to know even though it wont get answered is, In the past month was she doing Percocets with JC & LS? The first night she & ZB went over to LS house were they doing Percocets then? Did JC call you or ZB the day of the murders looking for Percocets? Did they call you or ZB any other time that day? If yes what did you talk about? Did LS Show you around the house? When you went to the house the first time how did you enter? Did you know of the spare key to enter the garage door on the side of the garage? When was the last time you went to bed bath and beyond? do you know anyone who works in home improvement or anything to do with duct work? Do you know of anyone capable of committing a crime like this? Was LS flirting with ZB the first night or the opposite?

(02-17-2011, 12:28 AM)tiffwill123 Wrote: but im about to go for now.hopefully talk to everyone later.thank you everyone for giving me your time and being respectful.

THANK YOU for takin time out of ur day to answer our questions! APPRECIATE THAT! Sorry for everything u r goin through and might still have to go through! Take care of urself and them BABIES! =) Talk To U Soon Hopefully! U have cleared alot up for me!

Unknown- Maybe you should go work w/LE. As far as TW, you're right she didn't necesarily say anything new, but it was interesting that she came to Mock to post. I about shit my pants last night when I got on here & saw that she was posting. I thought Mock had gone to hell in a hand basket. I personally thought all of her "God Bless" was a little much but hey, we can all play nice every once in a while, right?

There are alot of nice people in hell my grandfather use to say

It looks like that some folks, after having an opportunity to get responses from one of the alleged "cast" of this tradegy, redemption came quickly and without hesitation for this "character"

So much for priors, bastard children, multiple baby-daddy, custody, ghetto talk, menial employment and thug friends.

Behold!

A pregnant, young, brave, honest and decent single mom who is just trying to get by in this tough ol' world and mourn the loss of two friends.

People are a funny and fickle lot.

Just ask a Public Relations Director.

(02-17-2011, 10:32 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: It looks like that some folks, after having an opportunity to get responses from one of the alleged "cast" of this tradegy, redemption came quickly and without hesitation for this "character"

So much for priors, bastard children, multiple baby-daddy, custody, ghetto talk, menial employment and thug friends.

Behold!

A pregnant, young, honest and decent single mom who is just trying to get by in this tough ol' world and mourn the loss of two friends.

People are a funny and fickle lot.

Just ask a Public Relations Director.

So true! One minute many are willing to burn TW at the stakes, the next she's an angel. Like I've said, a lot to still be seen w/this one.