(02-19-2011, 05:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)concerned Wrote: Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.

That's not a big bust as far as drug dealing goes BUT it did allow them to get their hands on some people.

No not a big bust.... But that amount of people involved with drugs and not wanting to do time.. If drugs were involved in the murders maybe someone will talk ....This will be interesting to watch

(02-19-2011, 05:01 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)heyyou Wrote: this is just a rumor 2 i do kno alot of people who know jc personally and i heard that key that says 544 is for i guess a storage unit that held a large quanity of marijuana and alot of people wanted it i just heard this so i thought i would put it out there but this is just a rumor that i heard

something's not right about this scenario, though. If it's true, I honestly doubt the perps would have left the key there. If a person is being tortured, beat, whatever, one of them would have given the key to the perps, IMO.

What if the key is the 'identifier of the job done?'

(02-19-2011, 05:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)concerned Wrote: Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.

That's not a big bust as far as drug dealing goes BUT it did allow them to get their hands on some people.

good point!

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:22 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:18 PM)concerned Wrote: Look I live close to them. He is a minor. 16 or 17.

Also Z would have been mentioned if was an adult

IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

(02-19-2011, 05:03 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:59 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:58 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:48 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:45 PM)stoof725 Wrote: can somebody message me and please tell me who this zb is???? id appreciate it

don't know if you're able to receive PM's, but he's a minor, under the age of 18. He's a person, within this case of characters. He's not a suspect or anything, though, as of now. He's a friend of some of the friends' of Johnny & Lisa. That's about it.

Im sorry Jane I disagree with you. If Tiffany is a suspect then that would make Z one also. IMO

But Tiffany has not been named a suspect.

IMO how could she not be a suspect... Think about it .... her story doesnt make sense. I will rephrase her as a "person of interest"

To me Tiff is not a suspect. Can she help the investigation? Hell yeah! Same with Z the minor. Same with the BA the minor. Same with Vic Dominguez who, imo, has more cred than BA (who is not a minor). She is just the girlfriend of Johnny's neighborhood friend. And, imo, knows Johnny and Lisa by default.

But they also have the power to hurt the investigation, which is what is probably happening. Most gangsters prefer to take matters into their own hands. Justice is much sweeter then. The law is not respected. So, anyone hear about any happenings of a retaliatory nature? Maybe in time? If not, then either theire is no gang affliation to these murders, or everybody is cool with it, or afraid for their ownsevles. And just letting time pass.

(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:59 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

Yeah I agree,and they take bags and tape just in case it goes bad.O come on

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

Yes, they were there the night before.... positive!

concerned~thank you

(02-19-2011, 05:25 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)concerned Wrote: Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.

That's not a big bust as far as drug dealing goes BUT it did allow them to get their hands on some people.

No not a big bust.... But that amount of people involved with drugs and not wanting to do time.. If drugs were involved in the murders maybe someone will talk ....This will be interesting to watch

IMO a person(s) capable of such a crime can do this they will relish in the fact they havent been caught yet. There arrogance might have them brag to someone.

(02-19-2011, 05:25 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:01 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)heyyou Wrote: this is just a rumor 2 i do kno alot of people who know jc personally and i heard that key that says 544 is for i guess a storage unit that held a large quanity of marijuana and alot of people wanted it i just heard this so i thought i would put it out there but this is just a rumor that i heard

something's not right about this scenario, though. If it's true, I honestly doubt the perps would have left the key there. If a person is being tortured, beat, whatever, one of them would have given the key to the perps, IMO.

What if the key is the 'identifier of the job done?'

GREAT point! I thought someone may have said the same thing many pages ago...

(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)concerned Wrote: just on WTVG. Could be related....TOLEDO, Ohio (WTVG) -- Toledo police nabbed over two dozen people in a drug sweep this week.

Police say 28 adults and one juvenile were arrested during "Operation Dirty Boy III," which was held this week in honor of fallen detective Keith Dressel.

Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.

Thank you for sharing that! I have been reading this so much I forget to watch or read the news!!!!!

(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:22 PM)concerned Wrote: Also Z would have been mentioned if was an adult

IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

WTF!!! a registry ? Is this true or another rumor?

(02-19-2011, 05:23 PM)stoof725 Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:21 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:06 PM)stoof725 Wrote: this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth

True true... but im sure they were taking advantage of the fact the parents were out of town and they had that house to theirselves.... inviting people over, etc... especially if there were scales n such out in the open, im sure the parents had no idea that kind of stuff was in their home

agree with you on that. They took advantage of the parents not being there. Now IF this was a revenge type killing, I don't think the perps would have just waited till they heard the parents were out of town. I still think Johnny had something inside that house, that the perps wanted, & wanted badly! The timing & all, the digital scale on the counter, the tiny pieces of plastic scattered about. OR, maybe someone was mad at Johnny, & the parents being out of town, just worked coincidentally, as far as timing ?? I'm not wording myself right, lol

I keep going back and forth to the local news

(02-19-2011, 05:20 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:18 PM)concerned Wrote: Authorities seized more than $64,000 in illegal drugs and nearly $10,000 in cash. All together, authorities filed 37 felony charges.

That's not a big bust as far as drug dealing goes BUT it did allow them to get their hands on some people.

Yeah, my thinking too, considering there were 29 arrests and a single arrest could easily net more than that!

(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:22 PM)concerned Wrote: Also Z would have been mentioned if was an adult

IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

that is disgusting and needs to be removed!!

(02-19-2011, 05:07 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: No I dont know Tiffany...I know Maytee

AND....???? Your Point Is?

(02-19-2011, 05:21 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:06 PM)stoof725 Wrote: this is my opinion...
it has to 100% be someone who knew them... too much of a coincidence the parents were out of town when this happened. i want to know why none of the neighbors saw anything??? and i think personally its irrelevant what he said on the phone when he was talking to tiffany.... regaurdless if he did or didnt say "who r u" they could have easily been wearing ski masks.

Still don't know if I think they knew the perps. I don't doubt Johnny or Lisa told someone her parents were out of town, but it could have been that someone told someone else, & so forth

These are on the board:
"johnnys exact words were "bro wut r u doin"...and then he said tiff ima call u back.thats y i didnt call any one.he said hed call me back.after a hour of him not answering or showing up thats when i drove there. " Post 3098

"i could not hear what the other guy was sayin he sounded kinda far away but also johnny kept asking him bro who are you so he was talking over the man.i only heard 1 voice tho.yes the phone calls did verify. " Post 3111

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Read these post anyway you want, BUT IF YOU THINK THAT THE LAST WORDS OUT OF SOMEONE'S MOUTH ISN'T IMPORTANT...I don't know what to tell ya. All I know is what I thought and still do! Her parents left on Friday this is Sunday night

(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:22 PM)concerned Wrote: Also Z would have been mentioned if was an adult

IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

huh ???

(02-19-2011, 05:35 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:07 PM)4shannon4 Wrote: No I dont know Tiffany...I know Maytee

AND....???? Your Point Is?

lol ... they were answering my question, Zero. I just now noticed this.

Damn. I just googled the snitching/tongue being cut out thing and there are SO MANY cases of this in the drug world...many articles on it. Many from the recent Mexico drug cartel scene...

(02-19-2011, 05:37 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 05:26 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:55 PM)PURPLECATS Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:31 PM)concerned Wrote:

(02-19-2011, 04:24 PM)concerned Wrote: IMO with them being at the Straubs the night before they set up a robbery would in a sense " Clear" them from the crime because of their DNA being there. This is what I think they thought. IMo they set it up to be robbed and it went bad. The lapse in time was the "wtf" moment on what to they do now?

How do we really know if they were really there the nite before?
anyone know FORE SURE? just saying!

The Straubs keep a guest registry and all the perps signed in. Police just have open to the correct date. Under "comments" one perp wrote "kool .. wer da safe bro"

huh ???

LOL!