well crimefighters, go look around the rest of Mock, and i'll call you if anything happens!

(02-21-2011, 11:25 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: Personally, I think whomever is writing about Mock on the facebook pages writes it there because they know that there are actual law enforcement people on this site and won't come on here and talk their talk.

Another thing I've noticed about Maytee...she seems to be in competition with the Straubs, whether it be to set up a fund because they set up a fund or because she's a good mom just like they were good parents, Lisa's past is just as bad as Johnny's past. I can't imagine her pain and what that can do to you but that's just an observation I've had...add that with the love she had for Johnny but knowing Johnny loved Lisa and chose to live with her over Maytee...I definitly can see her feeling like she had/has to comepte with Lisa/Straub's. AND..let's not forget if what's been said about her husband cheating, she's probably over the top with jealousy and feelings of competition.

i agree with everything u said except the part about Lisa's past. Not even close!!! Sorry no offense. just had to express myself.

(02-21-2011, 11:31 AM)kitty1 Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 11:25 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: Personally, I think whomever is writing about Mock on the facebook pages writes it there because they know that there are actual law enforcement people on this site and won't come on here and talk their talk.

Another thing I've noticed about Maytee...she seems to be in competition with the Straubs, whether it be to set up a fund because they set up a fund or because she's a good mom just like they were good parents, Lisa's past is just as bad as Johnny's past. I can't imagine her pain and what that can do to you but that's just an observation I've had...add that with the love she had for Johnny but knowing Johnny loved Lisa and chose to live with her over Maytee...I definitly can see her feeling like she had/has to comepte with Lisa/Straub's. AND..let's not forget if what's been said about her husband cheating, she's probably over the top with jealousy and feelings of competition.

i agree with everything u said except the part about Lisa's past. Not even close!!! Sorry no offense. just had to express myself.

I read it different. Maytee saying "lisa's past is just as bad as johnny's". Competition. Maytee plays defensive way too much.

(02-21-2011, 11:25 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: there are actual law enforcement people on this site

Three of my members are former LEO's and I have reason to believe at least a half dozen more are in here on a daily basis.

(02-21-2011, 06:41 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 06:29 AM)pspence Wrote: We have to always give Maytee a break

No, I don't.

Me either and she lost me the first time she tried to lay these murders at Lisa's feet, implying it was through people that Lisa had in her life, and that in no way did this evolve from people that Johnny knew.

(02-21-2011, 11:38 AM)Adub Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 11:31 AM)kitty1 Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 11:25 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: Personally, I think whomever is writing about Mock on the facebook pages writes it there because they know that there are actual law enforcement people on this site and won't come on here and talk their talk.

Another thing I've noticed about Maytee...she seems to be in competition with the Straubs, whether it be to set up a fund because they set up a fund or because she's a good mom just like they were good parents, Lisa's past is just as bad as Johnny's past. I can't imagine her pain and what that can do to you but that's just an observation I've had...add that with the love she had for Johnny but knowing Johnny loved Lisa and chose to live with her over Maytee...I definitly can see her feeling like she had/has to comepte with Lisa/Straub's. AND..let's not forget if what's been said about her husband cheating, she's probably over the top with jealousy and feelings of competition.

i agree with everything u said except the part about Lisa's past. Not even close!!! Sorry no offense. just had to express myself.

I read it different. Maytee saying "lisa's past is just as bad as johnny's". Competition. Maytee plays defensive way too much.

maybe i read it wrong.

(02-21-2011, 10:44 AM)HeartBreaker Wrote: i know everyone has seen the first part of this from the RIP johnny page (maytee's comments about mock). but has anyone else noticed the response underneath?


You people on that mock forum are low life pathetic skum poor excuses for human life how dare you say that me and my son dont get along we are best friends and always have been...how dare you try to blame our family or johnny for what these evil demons did to him and lisa you people disgust me i want to vomit all you p...eople dont know anything what you can do is do the world a favor and choke on your evil tongues

XXXXXXXXX Just because God gave them a voice does not give them a right to say whatever they think... and someone with just a little bit of intelligence not to mention SYMPATHY would never ever do something so hurtful and nasty. That is why I left t...he other page. I cannot imagine the pain you are going through. DO NOT WORRY about those people, we have a group of people reporting them constantly until something is done and we have also talked to a lawyer that specializes in terms of service violations per internet laws and he heard your story and asked to help as well. He and I BOTH sat and read all 403 pages of the story... and that's what it is - a bunch of lowlife redneck racists that have nothing better to do than make up a fantasy story in their sick little minds.See More
9 hours ago

"He and I BOTH sat and read all 403 pages of the story... and that's what it is - a bunch of lowlife redneck racists that have nothing better to do than make up a fantasy story in their sick little minds.See More"

WELL YOU BOTH BETTER GET YOUR ASSES BACK HERE AND CATCH UP ON THE LAST 14 PAGES THEN!!! IF I HAVE TOO, YOU HAVE TOO

(02-21-2011, 10:09 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 10:08 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: ok i am armed with cigarettes

Good for you!! I have to pad through the snow for my coffee. Today
mayhap we will get a tidbit of news, or at least I hope so. I admire
you for setting this up and the diligence with which you maintain it.

(02-21-2011, 11:25 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: Personally, I think whomever is writing about Mock on the facebook pages writes it there because they know that there are actual law enforcement people on this site and won't come on here and talk their talk.

Another thing I've noticed about Maytee...she seems to be in competition with the Straubs, whether it be to set up a fund because they set up a fund or because she's a good mom just like they were good parents, Lisa's past is just as bad as Johnny's past. I can't imagine her pain and what that can do to you but that's just an observation I've had...add that with the love she had for Johnny but knowing Johnny loved Lisa and chose to live with her over Maytee...I definitly can see her feeling like she had/has to comepte with Lisa/Straub's. AND..let's not forget if what's been said about her husband cheating, she's probably over the top with jealousy and feelings of competition.

I so agree with you here.

I think Johnny was distancing himself from Maytee. Others have used the word "embarrassed" and I believe that to my core.

Here was a chance for Johnny to make good. He was welcomed by a stable, respectable family and loved by a young woman who didn't talk or act like a gangster. She was edgy enough to like to party and to tolerate his past transgressions. He could envision a future far different from the environment of his youth, an upbringing he was most likely desperate to escape.

I think Maytee resented it fiercely. And I think Johnny's peers resented it, too.

(02-21-2011, 11:51 AM)esbee Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 11:25 AM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: Personally, I think whomever is writing about Mock on the facebook pages writes it there because they know that there are actual law enforcement people on this site and won't come on here and talk their talk.

Another thing I've noticed about Maytee...she seems to be in competition with the Straubs, whether it be to set up a fund because they set up a fund or because she's a good mom just like they were good parents, Lisa's past is just as bad as Johnny's past. I can't imagine her pain and what that can do to you but that's just an observation I've had...add that with the love she had for Johnny but knowing Johnny loved Lisa and chose to live with her over Maytee...I definitly can see her feeling like she had/has to comepte with Lisa/Straub's. AND..let's not forget if what's been said about her husband cheating, she's probably over the top with jealousy and feelings of competition.

I so agree with you here.

I think Johnny was distancing himself from Maytee. Others have used the word "embarrassed" and I believe that to my core.

Here was a chance for Johnny to make good. He was welcomed by a stable, respectable family and loved by a young woman who didn't talk or act like a gangster. She was edgy enough to like to party and to tolerate his past transgressions. He could envision a future far different from the environment of his youth, an upbringing he was most likely desperate to escape.

I think Maytee resented it fiercely. And I think Johnny's peers resented it, too.

yes! yes! i agree!

Oh dear, I can not believe I awakened, started my computer, came here
sippin' my luscious coffee and find myself called a racist and a redneck.
Do I put a call out for Al Sharpton, Betty Friedan, Bill Clinton or Jerry Springer.

Morning All. And yes, I hate name calling.

(02-21-2011, 09:39 AM)kfran Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 04:32 AM)curious Wrote: Come on people, look at the posts from people who have direct insight into the case, which if you don't catch the fact almost every single detail that's been posted has been accounted for, then I suggest going back through EVERY single thread... combined with the evidence at hand and the dissaociation b/w the two families and the fact the FBI are involved, given the most recent news regarding whine invastions resulting from drug deals gone bad and revenge type killings...impo, this case is far from being resolved but impo, the motive behind it is there, but finding the perps involved may never be resolved. As I've stated all along, I think the "key" lies in the hands of four people, all of which have more street knowledge than common sense, which is much more beneficial when dealing with a crime of this nature. Let's not discount the details that impo clearly hold credence with the facts and overall insight to the details of the crime.

Obviously most of the information has not been reported by LE and it's not going to be until all the ducks are in a row...remember if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

So let's review...and we're all adults and capable of going back through threads, so not going to specifically reference them unless requested by LC or Dutchess...and please note this is my solely my opinion...

- Maytee's husband was reportedly busted driving a truck load of herion, combined with the rumored info
- TW is a reported heroin dealer
- Rumored Lisa's tongue had been cut in some fashion and
several references by Maytee in regards to tongue abuse on perps
- it's been posted neighbors recall seeing a white van at the strains house in the days leading up to the murders, followed by another post questioning why Maytee didn't drive the family van to the home in the night of the murders - ummm
- Maytee makes a point to mention a key in the garage that lots of people know about which is used to gain entrance to the home and ironically evidence was published by LW that a key was
found under the body of LS
- immediate reaction, rather over-reaction of Maytee to throw TW under the bus...suspicious at best and obvious derailment at most
- FINDING IT OKAY FOR YOUR HUSBAND TO RIDE IN THE CAR TO WITH THE PERSON WHO YOU CLAIM SET-UP THE MURDERS NOT 20 MIN LATER??
- there's a big fat reason why the two families are not in communication with each other and haven't been since the on-set
- if you had a good relationship with your family, you certainly don't need a FB page to try and express it!!

I could go on and on, but for the sake of the obvious being blatantly clear impo, the case is going to hit closer to home than we all would like to think.

-

and the reference to the tongue being cut out
-

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. I was starting to lose my mind w/all the repeat questions the last couple of days. People please read this thread from the beginning. We've already discussed the 5-4-4 key, the interband pants, the endless FB pages, the white van, blah blah blah. Please stop asking repeat questions & just read this thread from the beginning- yes all 400 pages.

Thank you Thank you.....I have been thinking it but afraid to say it! And if you are really serious about these discussions print all the pages so you can refer back to it!

i can see what's going on, and a number of people have printed out this thread. not a bad idea if you are very into it. and some people will refer to it in coming days.

and some people will pay their ambulance-chasing lawyers the big bucks to sit and read it all so we can be skeered off the internet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I was so very unsettled by the Jane V Mitchell interview when Maytee
refused to talk about her sons's prison record, and mentioning Lisa's
x boy friend. She also stated that people around Lisa would most likely
be responsible for the terrible acts. It make me think of
Freud's PROJECTION.

(02-21-2011, 12:03 PM)ivanna Wrote: I have been thinking it but afraid to say it!

Don't ever be afraid to offer your opinion in Mock. We encourage everyone to speak their mind.

(02-21-2011, 12:06 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I was so very unsettled by the Jane V Mitchell interview when Maytee
refused to talk about her sons's prison record, and mentioning Lisa's
x boy friend. She also stated that people around Lisa would most likely
be responsible for the terrible acts. It make me think of
Freud's PROJECTION.

^this. EXACTLY.

(02-21-2011, 12:06 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: I was so very unsettled by the Jane V Mitchell interview when Maytee refused
to talk about her sons's prison record, and mentioning Lisa's x boy friend. She
also stated that people around Lisa would most likely be responsible for the
terrible acts. It make me think of Freud's PROJECTION.

i agree! i think she is doing alot of major projecting. i think she wishes she had a relationship with her son like Lisa had with her parents. i think that is why she is expressing her undying love for him over and over and over again on FB for everyone to see

(02-21-2011, 11:45 AM)EastCoastKat Wrote:

(02-21-2011, 10:44 AM)HeartBreaker Wrote: i know everyone has seen the first part of this from the RIP johnny page (maytee's comments about mock). but has anyone else noticed the response underneath?


You people on that mock forum are low life pathetic skum poor excuses for human life how dare you say that me and my son dont get along we are best friends and always have been...how dare you try to blame our family or johnny for what these evil demons did to him and lisa you people disgust me i want to vomit all you p...eople dont know anything what you can do is do the world a favor and choke on your evil tongues

XXXXXXXXX Just because God gave them a voice does not give them a right to say whatever they think... and someone with just a little bit of intelligence not to mention SYMPATHY would never ever do something so hurtful and nasty. That is why I left t...he other page. I cannot imagine the pain you are going through. DO NOT WORRY about those people, we have a group of people reporting them constantly until something is done and we have also talked to a lawyer that specializes in terms of service violations per internet laws and he heard your story and asked to help as well. He and I BOTH sat and read all 403 pages of the story... and that's what it is - a bunch of lowlife redneck racists that have nothing better to do than make up a fantasy story in their sick little minds.See More
9 hours ago

"He and I BOTH sat and read all 403 pages of the story... and that's what it is - a bunch of lowlife redneck racists that have nothing better to do than make up a fantasy story in their sick little minds.See More"

WELL YOU BOTH BETTER GET YOUR ASSES BACK HERE AND CATCH UP ON THE LAST 14 PAGES THEN!!! IF I HAVE TOO, YOU HAVE TOO

Probably pissed because the Mock has more action than the facebook pages!

(02-21-2011, 12:06 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: and some people will pay their ambulance-chasing lawyers the big bucks to sit and read it all so we can be skeered off the internet. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's not the first time people have made empty threats & it won't be the last.

I'm going to start telling people to read the Bill Of Rights and then get back to me.

to LC and Duchess Sorry about using the "C" word on th pm's but i couldn't resist. i'm sure you were both offended. HAHa NOT! Just can't bring myself to say what i really feel out in public on this forum.