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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(02-23-2011, 02:06 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:00 PM)trixie Wrote: I'll post more in the other thread, so I don't post a million pics here.

posting here is fine, and thankyou very much! Smiley_emoticons_wink



AGH! I already posted the rest of them on the other thread.. Oops
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Those kids are white bread Americans. They don't look any different than me & my friends at that age. I wonder how she hooked up with a jailbird from the wrong side of the tracks.
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(02-23-2011, 02:07 PM)trixie Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:06 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:00 PM)trixie Wrote: I'll post more in the other thread, so I don't post a million pics here.

posting here is fine, and thankyou very much! Smiley_emoticons_wink



AGH! I already posted the rest of them on the other thread.. Oops

that's OK, and thankyou again~~Smiley_emoticons_smile


















































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(02-23-2011, 02:08 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:07 PM)trixie Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:06 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:00 PM)trixie Wrote: I'll post more in the other thread, so I don't post a million pics here.

posting here is fine, and thankyou very much! Smiley_emoticons_wink



AGH! I already posted the rest of them on the other thread.. Oops

that's OK, and thankyou again~~Smiley_emoticons_smile



You're very welcome!
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LISA AND SARAH AGAIN ON BOAT- LOOKS LIKE FRIENDS OF LISA'S NO JOHNNY IN THESE PICTURES

   
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(02-23-2011, 02:03 PM)Red_velvet71 Wrote: I shall return, got a MRI at 1:00.

Later gators. Smiley_emoticons_smile

Good luck, I hate those things!
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(02-23-2011, 02:10 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: LISA AND SARAH AGAIN ON BOAT- LOOKS LIKE FRIENDS OF LISA'S NO JOHNNY IN THESE PICTURES




These are from June 2009, I don't think they were dating then.
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(02-23-2011, 02:01 PM)kitty1 Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:45 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: They had lived in the house since 98 I would think she knew how to use it.

not necessarily. i am ALOT older and have been in my home ALOT longer and I don't know where the fuse box is!!!

Some are in the GARAGE, some are in the basement.
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(02-23-2011, 12:40 PM)Duchess Wrote:

I'm still hung up on there being no obvious signs of trauma. I really am. While I truly can't picture myself in a situation like they were in I do know myself well enough to know that I wouldn't be demure in that scenario. It's going to be damn obvious I was fighting for my life.

If you mean chloroform, it's used as a sleeping agent. Inhalation will knock you out. It's dangerous in excess.
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(02-23-2011, 02:13 PM)trixie Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:10 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: LISA AND SARAH AGAIN ON BOAT- LOOKS LIKE FRIENDS OF LISA'S NO JOHNNY IN THESE PICTURES




These are from June 2009, I don't think they were dating then.

Makes sense... I won't post anymore
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(02-23-2011, 02:14 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:13 PM)trixie Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:10 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: LISA AND SARAH AGAIN ON BOAT- LOOKS LIKE FRIENDS OF LISA'S NO JOHNNY IN THESE PICTURES




These are from June 2009, I don't think they were dating then.

Makes sense... I won't post anymore, it's probably a good idea to post them in the other thread.


Yep, I already posted some of them there. Smiley_emoticons_smile

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(02-22-2011, 11:04 PM)LoserCity Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:56 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:52 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:41 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: thank you

For what?

And really. Who says that the Straubs house has a basement?

Maytee told the 911 dispatcher, her son was tied up in the basement. Also, another "local" poster said there was a basement, where the pool table is. That's all I've heard of a basement

Go here and type in Lisa's address (according to 911 call). There IS a basement. You can actually see a sketch of the entire property. http://maps.co.lucas.oh.us/areis/areis.asp
:O

I know the address, but I couldn't pull anything up ???? what am I doing wrong?

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In these pictures, there is a kid wearing a rebels shirt. Rebels is the mascot for bowsher. Evidently they were springfield kids hanging around bowsher kids. Where did johnny go to high school? Bowsher. Percs and oxy's were extremely popular in the area around the time of the pictures. Still are. Maybe some of the guys in the pics bought percs from johnny. Johnny shows up at a party where lisa is to sell and do percs and wha-la. Johnny meets lisa. The pictures do show they like to have a good time. The pic where lisa is close to a guy with the hat on is lisa's sisters boyfriend by the way.
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(02-23-2011, 02:16 PM)toledoarea Wrote: In these pictures, there is a kid wearing a rebels shirt. Rebels is the mascot for bowsher. Evidently they were springfield kids hanging around bowsher kids. Where did johnny go to high school? Bowsher. Percs and oxy's were extremely popular in the area around the time of the pictures. Still are. Maybe some of the guys in the pics bought percs from johnny. Johnny shows up at a party where lisa is to sell and do percs and wha-la. Johnny meets lisa. The pictures do show they like to have a good time. The pic where lisa is close to a guy with the hat on is lisa's sisters boyfriend by the way.



Yep! I actually found these pictures on his page.
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(02-23-2011, 02:07 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Those kids are white bread Americans. They don't look any different than me & my friends at that age. I wonder how she hooked up with a jailbird from the wrong side of the tracks.

That's actually really common. I grew up in a not so great neighborhood in Toledo & when I was a teenager the teenage guys in my neighborhood were always running around with the girls from the "burbs" I guess the girls felt cool hanging around in a bad neighborhood with "tough" thug wannabe guys & the guys liked hanging out with the burb girls because they had money to buy booze & good drugs & they always had a car of their own or their parents car.

In one of the pictures in that album there are 4 guys & the caption says "The south boys (or guys) hahaha" The south being the south end of Toledo where Johnny was from. One of the guys is wearing a Bowsher shirt. That's the school Johnny went to. They all intermingle.

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(02-23-2011, 01:42 PM)curious Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 12:48 PM)Wish.I.was.a.P.I Wrote: I think they punched holes in the wall because this was what was quoted:
"There is a kitchen with an island and an open eating area that went into an open family room," he told the Blade. "That was not ransacked, but you could tell there was a fight that ensued there. Plants were knocked over. Things were broken and knocked over, but upstairs, Mary Beth and Jeff's room was ransacked to the point where it looked like a TV show. All the drawers were out, and they had punched holes in the walk-in closet looking for a safe that never existed. There was no safe."

How did the uncle come to the conclusion the perps were looking for a safe...was it from rumors that JC told people about there being a safe combined with holes being "punched" in the walls, presumedly by one's fist given the terminology used? IDK it seems like there's more insight to that claim, of which the public has not been made aware...

The very first I heard the word safe was from Maytee. Now, how would
she know what the intruders were looking for? Maybe they were
looking for guns. As a parent, if I had 100K cash around I would not
let any of my family know about it. The 'behind the wall' seems even
stupid for the stupidest criminal.
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(02-23-2011, 02:16 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 11:04 PM)LoserCity Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:56 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:52 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:41 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: thank you

For what?

And really. Who says that the Straubs house has a basement?

Maytee told the 911 dispatcher, her son was tied up in the basement. Also, another "local" poster said there was a basement, where the pool table is. That's all I've heard of a basement

Go here and type in Lisa's address (according to 911 call). There IS a basement. You can actually see a sketch of the entire property. http://maps.co.lucas.oh.us/areis/areis.asp
:O

I know the address, but I couldn't pull anything up ???? what am I doing wrong?

Make sure you are searching by address. (I think under the data tab). You could just try typing the name of the road and then will be provided with all of the property owners on the street. Look in the list for the Straubs and click there. THEN go back to the list on the left and click on structure sketch, or whatever it says, in that list of options.
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(02-23-2011, 02:19 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(02-23-2011, 02:07 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Those kids are white bread Americans. They don't look any different than me & my friends at that age. I wonder how she hooked up with a jailbird from the wrong side of the tracks.

That's actually really common. I grew up in a not so great neighborhood in Toledo & when I was a teenager the teenage guys in my neighborhood were always running around with the girls from the "burbs" I guess the girls felt cool hanging around in a bad neighborhood with "tough" thug wannabe guys & the guys liked hanging out with the burb girls because they had money to buy booze & good drugs & they always had a car of their own or their parents car.

In one of the pictures in that album there are 4 guys & the caption says "The south boys (or guys) hahaha" The south being the south end of Toledo where Johnny was from. One of the guys is wearing a Bowsher shirt. That's the school Johnny went to. They all intermingle.

by the date these pics were added to the FB page, it appears Johnny wasn't out of jail yet, OR had just been released very recently..

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(02-23-2011, 02:16 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 11:04 PM)LoserCity Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:56 PM)Jane Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:52 PM)Adub Wrote:
(02-22-2011, 10:41 PM)wanttoknow Wrote: thank you

For what?

And really. Who says that the Straubs house has a basement?

Maytee told the 911 dispatcher, her son was tied up in the basement. Also, another "local" poster said there was a basement, where the pool table is. That's all I've heard of a basement

Go here and type in Lisa's address (according to 911 call). There IS a basement. You can actually see a sketch of the entire property. http://maps.co.lucas.oh.us/areis/areis.asp
:O

I know the address, but I couldn't pull anything up ???? what am I doing wrong?



I didn't put ln or lane on the end of mine and got it to come up.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I do believe this guy was in pics with Tiff.


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