(02-26-2011, 08:15 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:07 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Does anyone know if Lisa was pregnant?

Do you think that might be relevant?

Well Tiff mentioned Lisa and Johnny wanted a child remember? That could explain Johnny living at the Straubs much happiness there but, it could really really rile up an ex-bf!

(02-26-2011, 08:47 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:37 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:32 PM)Jane Wrote: So there's a NEW "justice" page for Johnny & Lisa ??? This has become an all out FB war, huh? LOL

huh? besides the one that has nobody there?

http://www.facebook.com/justice.for.johnny.and.lisa

LOL, yes ... check this out http://www.facebook.com/pages/Justice-WI...ts&sk=wall

i have to read this! thanks~~

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So everyone knows The "jc and ls case open discussion" page is very biased. They have deleted every post I've written because I make that woman look like an idiot by calling her out on everything she says. She doesn't want anyone to be able to prove her wrong so she will delete any comments that do. Make sure you delete both pages... because she is the same woman who started the justice for Johnny & Lisa page. An she doesn't want justice She wants gossip. She has a personal vendeta against Johnny's mom and she's sick.. I know 1 thing for sure Johnny would want this woman stopped and he would NEVER approve of the things this woman is saying about him or his family. He would be disgusted. How dare she try and put herself in the middle of this.

(02-26-2011, 08:41 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:21 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:12 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:00 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: To the person who said that the safe was not said by the Clarke's
please read this. It is in the article as a quote by Maytee.

http://www.norwalkreflector.com/content/...s-slayings

Hmmmmm So the Safe story begins with Lisa's Uncle. Thanks TC!

I think you need to read it again.

"This is evil. This is gruesome. This was premeditated. This was planned," Mrs. Vazquez-Clarke said. She said she believes the motive "was the parents' safe and money, and they waited for the kids to be home alone."

The way I read the article Lisa's Uncle mentioned the safe first - I assumed Maytee got the information from him - he brought up the possibility of the non-existant safe - so we cannot find a non-existant safe here so we will brutally murder 2 human beings like this.

It sure is EVIL!

I see what you are saying.
I wish they would not have removed so many of the interviews
and audio tapess. ARG. YES, EVIL. It is difficult to imagine
what would incense people this much.

(02-06-2011, 09:33 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: strong kid.
prison tats. :(
innocent as a baby sleeping here.

I was reading back and came across these pics.
They dont look like prison tats to me...
There has been a huge *comeback* of traditional
tattoos (ie WWII and the graywash/black tatts)
Especially in the hispanic/latino cultures. The style
itself (black and greywash) has some roots in the
prison world, but has become fairly mainstream now.
The Old English writing has made its way from gang
tats to mainstream and many many people have them
from all walks of life (the OE font).
I know this because my son in law is a tat artist and
has a career in Southern California and New Mexico.
(lots and lots of Hispanic and Mexican and Latinos population)
I asked his opinion on them and thats what he told me...
confirming what I already knew from tattoo documentaries
Ive watched and follow up searches on the internet.

(02-26-2011, 08:54 PM)NightOwl Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:15 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 08:07 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Does anyone know if Lisa was pregnant?

Do you think that might be relevant?

Well Tiff mentioned Lisa and Johnny wanted a child remember? That could explain Johnny living at the Straubs much happiness there but, it could really really rile up an ex-bf!

Firstly, anything that comes from Tiff is suspect. But IF Lisa was pregnant, chances are she would only have been in the very early stages and may not even have known herself. And it's not the type of information that you'd be discussing with an ex-boyfriend, especially if he happened to be violent.

I don't know the motive, though I'm guessing drugs, but I don't believe this was the work of an ex-bf.

Lady Cop. I realize every case is different, but is it usually this quiet
after such a violent act? I live in a major city where this would be
on the front page every single day and at least a couple hours front
page on the internet edition of the newspaper. Quite honestly, I
have not read about such an emotionally heinous crime since the
Joel Steinberg case in NYC. (Bastard is out of prison.) How does
this rate on the Horrible Meter from your experience?

(02-26-2011, 01:33 PM)fabulous Wrote: this is an interesting FB page: (THESE PEOPLE ARE NOT RELATED TO THIS CASE, but just found it interesting about gangs in TOledo)

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/profi...62&sk=wall

and I know, I know but I just thought it was interesting.

It is interesting and it germane to the topic at hand.

WTF is up with the gangs (Crips?) using the zionazi star of David (which was actually a more ancient symbol appropriated by the Rothschilds)? That is really bizarre. What's next, a menorah?

(02-26-2011, 09:13 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: Lady Cop. I realize every case is different, but is it usually this quiet
after such a violent act? I live in a major city where this would be
on the front page every single day and at least a couple hours front
page on the internet edition of the newspaper. Quite honestly, I
have not read about such an emotionally heinous crime since the
Joel Steinberg case in NYC. (Bastard is out of prison.) How does
this rate on the Horrible Meter from your experience?

on the horror meter it's not up there with Jessica Lunsford or the Petit family, or many many others i am familiar with. i have said a few times why i think this one has attracted so much attention.
i can't explain the local media. i look at it daily and all i see is the weather!
i don't know if this is indicative of general public indifference to what they perceive as a drug-thug case, or because there is no news. LE is as tight as i've ever seen it. virtually no leaks. but even that says something. they are not warning the public to be aware of random psycho killers. they know their suspects.

For those who have not heard the 911 calls, I finally found them. Includes:
Maytee's initial call to 911
Second Call from Maytee to 911 - including Tiffany w/ operator
Third Call Dispatcher to Male Detective
Fourth Call Dispatcher to Detective Williams 4 03
Fifth Call Dispatcher to Female Detective 4 04

http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/stor...?id=576342

There does not seem to be a recording of the call reporting
the bodies in the house. I have read the transcript and both
John Clarke and Maytee Clarke spoke to 911.

(02-26-2011, 09:32 PM)TotallyCurious Wrote: For those who have not heard the 911 calls, I finally found them. Includes:
Maytee's initial call to 911
Second Call from Maytee to 911 - including Tiffany w/ operator
Third Call Dispatcher to Male Detective
Fourth Call Dispatcher to Detective Williams 4 03
Fifth Call Dispatcher to Female Detective 4 04

http://www.connectamarillo.com/news/stor...?id=576342

There does not seem to be a recording of the call reporting
the bodies in the house. I have read the transcript and both
John Clarke and Maytee Clarke spoke to 911.

I think we all already knew where to locate these. I think people are looking for the 3^rd call where they discover the bodies. But someone may still need these. They must have removed the 3^rd call. I have looked too. Thanks for these in case someone needs these.

(02-26-2011, 09:23 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: on the horror meter it's not up there with Jessica Lunsford or the Petit family, or many many others i am familiar with. i have said a few times why i think this one has attracted so much attention.
i can't explain the local media. i look at it daily and all i see is the weather!
i don't know if this is indicative of general public indifference to what they perceive as a drug-thug case, or because there is no news. LE is as tight as i've ever seen it. virtually no leaks. but even that says something. they are not warning the public to be aware of random psycho killers. they know their suspects.

They may not be random killers, but unless they're already in custody on an unrelated charge, who's to say that they won't kill again, random or not? It seems to me that the public is still in danger.

Lady Cop, I know you said that you are privy to some inside information that you are unwilling to divulge. I understand your predicament, but can you at least guess when an arrest may be made based on what you know?

Quote:You know, I knew that at one time...some documentary on gangs I think.
If you dont use it, you lose it...LOL

Well, I'm happy to lose it, ISAWF!
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My point exactly

(02-26-2011, 07:20 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-26-2011, 05:07 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: I already posted about Maytee. I requested TW when her name started being bantered about and I had listened to the 911 tapes. She added me, so I read until fb wouldnt let me read anymore of her wall. I told yall....Ive been obsessed since the beginning. LOL

If you were still a "friend" on her FB, you'd still be able to read her wall. She must have 'unfriended' you..

No...I unfriended Tiff day before yesterday, and Maytee last night.

Spalding: Lady Cop, I know you said that you are privy to some inside information that you are unwilling to divulge. I understand your predicament, but can you at least guess when an arrest may be made based on what you know?



the things i am told are not coming from the authorities, so i don't take everything as gospel. and i don't want to disseminate erroneous information.

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If you were still a "friend" on her FB, you'd still be able to read her wall. She must have 'unfriended' you..


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Also...when I said that I read til fb wouldnt let me read anymore...it seems you go back so far and eventually fb says there are no more posts. Thats what I meant. I went back quite a ways....

Well, I'm settled in, with a beer, listening to the Toledo LE scanner!

(02-26-2011, 09:50 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote: Also...when I said that I read til fb wouldnt let me read anymore...it seems you go back so far and eventually fb says there are no more posts. Thats what I meant. I went back quite a ways....

So you can still see her wall, now?

edited .... I see you unfriended her now

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OK, not wanting to open up a can of worms, but I honestly don't remember Maytee being the one that brought up a safe .... I thought it was a local here on this forum, then we heard the Uncle mention it..
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I believe it was in one of the 911 calls....someone correct me if Im wrong...
then someone said something about it in the forum (a local) and then
others posted the links to the calls.

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Literature on the topic usually pairs -er with -ster, as though -er were the husband and -ster the wife. Depending on your chosen gender, one could be a Mocker, one could be a Mockster. I say chosen because most genders here are "undisclosed" and we came here to bitch alot.....That makes us honorary Bitches or Mocksters, but for those who feel "manly" I cordially address you as Mockers.


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Im a bitch.
Plain and simple.

(02-26-2011, 03:10 PM)Duchess Wrote:

My imagination runs wild with crazy thoughts, mostly involving the looney mother, the son's pretty, beloved girlfriend, white, middle class respectability and other bullshit much too off the wall to even mention. Jeezus.

Same here. I can imagine some of these people looking at Lisa and saying shit like, "Who does she think she is? Little rich bitch." and other garbage like that. Then there was the comment from one the cast of characters, on one of the FB pages, saying Lisa was from "rich ville". Lisa was so wholesome looking that I'll bet she drew a lot of attention at the parties with the hoodrats. She must have been a breath of fresh air. I have a hunch she was oblivious to the dangers and any mean spiritedness because she was probably just a fun loving party animal, innocent and looking for the good in others. She was, obviously, not paying attention to the environment around her and she didn't have the life experience to know better.