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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered


I don't think Cabrini Green is there anymore??
Ahhhh, I even miss Cabrini Green!
[/quote] its not. its gone.

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p.44 post# 612 contains my opinion of pink.
also page 36 post# 501

condescending, smarmy, smug, rude and a blow-hard know-it-all. and nobody said you could address Duchess as 'dutchie'.
further, if you send one more PM to anyone containing uninvited sexual innuendo, i am personally going to throw you out on your ass pinkhole.

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(03-01-2011, 08:38 PM)EastCoastKat Wrote: "Sgt. Schiavone said he believes the drug-related crime was a professional "hit," instigated by actions of the victims."

I agree, this has me thinking that JC/LS must have fucked with somebody's money/drugs who's pretty established on the southside, that's exactly what I thought to begin with, that JC was on somebody else turf trying to do business, or somebody fronted him a big amount of drugs to sell and he fucked up, maybe blew the money!! So, no more speculation about drugs thats' for sure, and he literally said it wasn't a robbery!! Sorry, but I just can't see a professional running over there with duct tape and plastic bags in hand, that sounds more like a couple of chump punks, who may have been paid to do it, and maybe that's why the Sheriff is calling it professional because they were paid to kill them? JC should have stayed away from that southside, established drug pins do not like people trying to horn in on their business or don't like people who they front drugs to not to come through with the money for the drugs they were fronted, so they must have provoked some serious players! Whoever went there was probably looking for the drugs he was fronted (or his own drugs) or the money, and hey why not check the rest of the place too!

yeah, I'm thinking here.... this has got to have something to do with the drugs Johnny was dealing, & I do believe he was, from the very beginning. Wow, this'll be very hard for LE to link Johnny to someone else (where HE got his drugs, to sell) right? No one's going to talk, if this leads even further back than Johnny's "main man" ... again, Wow!

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(03-01-2011, 08:36 PM)Jane Wrote: oh yes, Pink enjoyed making jabs at others' opinions/speculations, for sure! He/she claimed they were from Ohio, or use to be? ... Or was it he still has a brother living in Toledo? Can't remember, now, but apparently he/she knew a lot about the area...just seems so odd, being this is what their opinion was, so early on.

The more I review his posts the more I wish he would reappear
I Quote him/her below:


- pinkyfloyd - 02-06-2011 12:25 PM

my statement comes not from conjecture but directly from talking to people who live there today, as we speak.

my brother's home is less than five miles from the scene. parent's home less than eight. both of those homes have high-end security systems, neither of them were ever activated at night prior to this crime, neither of them are activated at night now as a result of it.

-pink
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(03-01-2011, 08:44 PM)kfran Wrote: UMMMM, Wasn't there a change jar missing w/like $40 in it? Why in the hell would a "professional" take a change jar. I think good ole' SGT. meant to say "personal."

I would agree with you, if the Sgt didn't think the perps are no longer in the area... from the article - "The crime was not a random neighborhood robbery and the sergeant believes the suspects are likely no longer in the area."



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(03-01-2011, 08:10 PM)Jane Wrote: Sgt. Schiavone said he believes the drug-related crime was a professional "hit," instigated by actions of the victims.

WOW! figured it was drug related, but a professional "hit"!!! ... Looks like Pink was right from the get-go. Hmmmm
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I remember Pink and I wanted to go back and review her stuff. Does anyone recall where approximately she posted. Is there a place to punch in that name to see her posts?? I looked in HQ but I didn't see how to do that. Thanks
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(03-01-2011, 08:55 PM)Jane Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 08:44 PM)kfran Wrote: UMMMM, Wasn't there a change jar missing w/like $40 in it? Why in the hell would a "professional" take a change jar. I think good ole' SGT. meant to say "personal."

I would agree with you, if the Sgt didn't think the perps are no longer in the area... from the article - "The crime was not a random neighborhood robbery and the sergeant believes the suspects are likely no longer in the area."

Very true Jane.
I've been reading Pink's old posts- interesting indeed. He/She was around from 2/3-2/7 & said quite a bit in that short time.

It's the hint of arsenic that gives it that extra kick.
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(03-01-2011, 08:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Offtopic
I remember Pink and I wanted to go back and review her stuff. Does anyone recall where approximately she posted. Is there a place to punch in that name to see her posts?? I looked in HQ but I didn't see how to do that. Thanks

Hi kitty1,

Sgt. Schiavone does not appear in this thread until today

zero
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I remember Pink and I wanted to go back and review her stuff. Does anyone recall where approximately she posted. Is there a place to punch in that name to see her posts?? I looked in HQ but I didn't see how to do that. Thanks
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Go to the navigation bar located at the top of every page and click on 'Members List' from there you can search by user name where it's lists the threads and posts that member has made.
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(03-01-2011, 09:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 08:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Offtopic
I remember Pink and I wanted to go back and review her stuff. Does anyone recall where approximately she posted. Is there a place to punch in that name to see her posts?? I looked in HQ but I didn't see how to do that. Thanks

Hi kitty1,

Sgt. Schiavone does not appear in this thread until today

zero

Kitty1, There is a Detective Cathy Stooksbury of the Lucas County Sheriff's Office on the thread, or were you referring to pink as "her" and wanting to review "pinks" submissions?
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(03-01-2011, 08:47 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: p.44 post# 612 contains my opinion of pink.
also page 36 post# 501

condescending, smarmy, smug, rude and a blow-hard know-it-all. and nobody said you could address Duchess as 'dutchie'.
further, if you send one more PM to anyone containing uninvited sexual innuendo, i am personally going to throw you out on your ass pinkhole.

Mock is very free in many ways, but there is a modicum of respect expected in this forum.

no Det. S. is not pink.

ok i had to search for this. he is free to come back anytime. but i think he's a BS artist. everyone, however is free to believe whatever they wish. Smiley_emoticons_smile


















































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(03-01-2011, 09:10 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 09:04 PM)ZEROSPHERES Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 08:59 PM)kitty1 Wrote: Offtopic
I remember Pink and I wanted to go back and review her stuff. Does anyone recall where approximately she posted. Is there a place to punch in that name to see her posts?? I looked in HQ but I didn't see how to do that. Thanks

Hi kitty1,

Sgt. Schiavone does not appear in this thread until today

zero

Kitty1, There is a Detective Cathy Stooksbury of the Lucas County Sheriff's Office on the thread, or were you referring to pink as "her" and wanting to review "pinks" submissions?

Zero- Kitty was looking for a member "Pinkyfloyd" that posted early on in this thread saying from the get-go that this was a professional hit & that the murderers wouldn't be caught"
It's the hint of arsenic that gives it that extra kick.
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(03-01-2011, 09:12 PM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(03-01-2011, 08:47 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: p.44 post# 612 contains my opinion of pink.
also page 36 post# 501

condescending, smarmy, smug, rude and a blow-hard know-it-all. and nobody said you could address Duchess as 'dutchie'.
further, if you send one more PM to anyone containing uninvited sexual innuendo, i am personally going to throw you out on your ass pinkhole.

Mock is very free in many ways, but there is a modicum of respect expected in this forum.

no Det. S. is not pink.

ok i had to search for this. he is free to come back anytime. but i think he's a BS artist. everyone, however is free to believe whatever they wish. Smiley_emoticons_smile

Some of Pink's posts were rather insightful, however I will disagree about the "professional" part until I am proven wrong. What kind of professional uses bags, duct tape & takes a f'n change jar. Something is missing here. Maybe LE has totally stumped the public by not giving out info or misleading info at that. I still don't understand why no real info from LE, no asking for help, other than the 5k reward. Something is definitely amiss....
It's the hint of arsenic that gives it that extra kick.
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if drug-dealing, low-rent local hoodrat gangsta wannabes are "pro" hit men, i'm tinkerbell.

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(03-01-2011, 09:13 PM)kfran Wrote: Zero- Kitty was looking for a member "Pinkyfloyd" that posted early on in this thread saying from the get-go that this was a professional hit & that the murderers wouldn't be caught"

Thanks "kfran"....it was all the "alphabet soup acronym cast of characters" getting to me. I still think the dog has a Facebook book page and I just haven't figured it out yet.Russian
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(03-01-2011, 09:25 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: if drug-dealing,low-rent local hoodrat gangsta wannabes are "pro" hit men, i'm tinkerbell.

[Image: tinkerbell.gif]


So maybe (like somebody just said) the term "pro" is used to mean someone who is paid to do the crime.
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Excuse me and ignore this if this has been discussed, but I can not seem to
find if it has. It was said,

"johnny fucked us. this is what we do to people who fuck us, and also to the loved ones of people who fuck us. don't fuck us."

Could it be that Johnny was the 'loved one' of someone who fucked someone?
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Seems like you are leaning towards one of two theories at this point:

1. "friends" of Johnny and Lisa looking for a safe and drugs (percosets)

or

2. Johnny's drug dealing caught up to him and a Toledo "big wig" is making a statement not to fuck with his money
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(03-01-2011, 08:44 PM)kfran Wrote: UMMMM, Wasn't there a change jar missing w/like $40 in it? Why in the hell would a "professional" take a change jar. I think good ole' SGT. meant to say "personal."

Still thinking, here LOL ... something just popped into my head, about that money missing form the jar! How do we know that Johnny or Lisa didn't grab that cash???

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RIP, maytee:

RIP Johnny Listen you evil demons that took my johnny n lisa from us...you want to dance with the devil i will make sure the ugliest of demons devour n feast on all your very existance n yours aahhh i cnt wait to hear n see the worst n most painfull of deaths on all of you remember " a witches curse" in full effect

















































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