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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
Boobies!
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i had to speed-read a lot of pages early this morning, and wanted to comment...

nobody needs my permission to start a thread on any topic they like. please feel free, it's YOUR Mock too!

and do notice there are different areas of the forum where you may want to place your topic. simply go to home page and choose one. 44



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when you look at smiley list, notice it says "get more", click that.


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Alright, I've pulled ANOTHER all nighter. I cannot get my sleeping turned around!

See you guys today. lol.
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(03-05-2011, 07:04 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: i had to speed-read a lot of pages early this morning, and wanted to comment...

nobody needs my permission to start a thread on any topic they like. please feel free, it's YOUR Mock too!

and do notice there are different areas of the forum where you may want to place your topic. simply go to home page and choose one. 44



and here's the elusive popcorn----> 57
when you look at smiley list, notice it says "get more", click that.


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(03-05-2011, 07:07 AM)shitstorm Wrote: Alright, I've pulled ANOTHER all nighter. I cannot get my sleeping turned around!

See you guys today. lol.

Crackhead...Smiley_emoticons_shocked

Hahaha
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Ari, your avatar never fails to elicit a grin since i know you are the complete antithesis of that dude! hah

















































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(03-05-2011, 07:12 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: Ari, your avatar never fails to elicit a grin since i know you are the complete antithesis of that dude! hah

I'm covert...

47 Secret 2hiding

I could set the building on fire...

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"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it." - George Bernard Shaw Smiley_emoticons_fies
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(03-05-2011, 03:43 AM)shitstorm Wrote: If the reports can be emailed to you, they can be uploaded to a file that we can all see. If you don't know how to do that, someone can help. Then you can start a thread on it. His murder should not be written off like that.


Agreed! I'd like to add my encouragement too.


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(03-05-2011, 02:42 AM)Inspector Gary Wrote:
(03-04-2011, 11:06 PM)WolfHouse Wrote:
(03-04-2011, 08:46 PM)JsMom Wrote: MAN That damn lady always has something to say! (bullshit) at that! Shes posted something else on her RIP page! I feel for both families I REALLY DO! Shes just off her damn rocker! Im tired of the shit that comes out her mouth! I understand being ANGRY and HURT and even CRAZY! I WAS! but I WOULD NEVER LASH OUT THE WAY SHE HAS! I would not treat people whom r honestly there for me like shit! HINT HINT! She talks about everyone else but yet she seems to stay posted to her phone/internet 247 just to post some BS! UGH! IM OVER HER! completely! Smiley_emoticons_biggrin

Why don't you just stay away and quit obsessing about it.


:agreed: Respect-applause Respect-applause


JsMom, I was appalled at how you acted on the original FB "Justice" page. You, a complete stranger, had the audacity to try and come off as Maytee's biggest supporter and new bff. 75 116 11

If anyone else followed the original "Justice" page and saw how you clung to Maytee and posted that you loved her, 109 Love025 109 and were there for her 72 Blah-blah-0006, then THEY WILL UNDERSTAND where I am coming from!!


Maytee is OBVIOUSLY off her rocker- BUT she is NOT the ONLY ONE!!! Within a matter of minutes, you went from supporting Maytee to bashing her on this forum. Flamethower I do not agree with Maytee and the way that she is lashing out. BUT worse than her behavior, is YOURS!!! She is obviously extremely unstable and devastated and has made VERY bad decisions. AGREED. BUT who are you to TARGET a grieving mother and then LASH OUT at HER?!?!??!?! Furious Catfight

Seriously, it is one thing for people to view Maytee as a crazy woman who needs to stop running her mouth. :stir_shit: And it is fine to posts all those thoughts on this forum!! But when you slither your way into her personal life to the point of her feeling comfortable enough with you to text you from her phone, then that is JUST SICK!!! And then, after you have pushed your way into her life, and then send nasty texts to her cell phone calling her a "BITCH" - 16 you really look like a LOWLIFE, even next to the likes of Maytee. :O



In my opinon, YOU CRAWLED UP her 37 ASS 37 and SHE FARTED YOU OUT!!! 37 37 37

115 115 115 115 Gives a whole other dimension to POOF BE GONE!!!! 115 115 115 115 115 115 115 115

Hear, hear, Inspector Gary!!! I agree with every word you've said.

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"The old believe everything; the middle-aged suspect everything; the young know everything." Oscar Wilde
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(03-05-2011, 02:49 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: I sincerely wish nothing but peace and healing to the families involved, here's hoping that if a new home is found/moved into, that they may heal there and in someway find even a tid bit of peace.....if not now then hopefully soon.

+1
"The old believe everything; the middle-aged suspect everything; the young know everything." Oscar Wilde
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(03-05-2011, 04:45 AM)van64 Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 01:50 AM)PURPLECATS Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 12:57 AM)shitstorm Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 12:42 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: *neighborhood talk*

Heard today that the Straub's have been moving furniture out of their house and have not been staying there. So sad.

Oh, man, I'm actually glad to hear that. I cannot imagine having to live in the house where your child was murdered. I hope that family, friends, work buddies, church, whatever, all pitched in to help them.

I AGREE i could never live there anymore and never knowing if they would come back

You mean wondering if the perps would come back? Ah but LE assures us that the perps may not even be in the same state and furthermore, if you don't instigate your own death, you're good to go. No worries. Be happy.

I wouldn't want to live there because of what happened and i would be worried they might come back no ones behind bars yet
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(03-05-2011, 03:49 AM)Countryside_Belle Wrote: Yea I just love how they try to make it seem like their pages r so helpful when all they do is spread FLAT OUT lies and speak horrible about family members. And people have the nerve to ask why we say some on the things we do about these pe...ople on Johnnys page. HORRIBLE HORRIBLE people and in my eyes they are no better than the people who committed this crime. For all we know they are the people that did it. They don't put THEIR name on the page. They could just be playing sum sort of sick game. DEFINITELY feel they need to be investigated!


Maytee, the reality is, this thread is managed in a very responsible fashion, unlike your FB page. Gossip & sly innuendo are not allowed to be presented as fact, members are not allowed to make threats. Whatever credibility you had is gone {with many of us} & you have no one to blame but yourself, it's impossible to take you seriously when you continue to pull voodoo out of your ass, you have become a pitiful joke in the eyes of many & the compassion so many of us shared for you is fast becoming nonexistent because of your demeanor & wishes of violence upon others. You are a hypocrite, Maytee.


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(03-05-2011, 04:41 AM)van64 Wrote: Does anyone know if it is typical for a drug dealer to 'carry' a dealer as Johnny allegedly was? I would be surprised if a host dealer he is getting drugs from would allow him to owe a lot of money to him for the simple reason that he is probably never going to collect on it. That's just good business sense that the illicit drug business would be a cash business.

Oh on a separate note, there was a case on the first 48 hours show on A&E where a drug user and his girlfriend robbed their drug delivery guy and ended up stabbing him to death. The drug user and his girlfriend ordered drugs up but had no money and no intention to pay for them. In fact, the drug user and his girlfriend met the drug delivery guy with only one intention: to rob him of his drugs. The drug delivery guy ended up being stabbed to death.

The episode reminded me of this case and I was thinking to myself...could it have been that whomever showed up there that cold night could have shown up under the pretext of buying drugs and then things went downhill from there. We may never know the answer to that.

I lived with a drug dealer for awhile when I was younger and he was fronted very large amounts of drugs and was supposed to pay up after he made the deals. Of course, he'd end up smoking or snorting a lot of it away himself and be in deep shit with his supplier. I know for awhile there he was in some serious shit and laying low for fear of retaliation. Funny thing is he also hid his drugs and money in the vent and attic space of our apartment so the vents being looked in makes sense to me with this case. I'm wondering if it isn't simpler than we all think and a case of Johnny fucking his supplier over.
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(03-05-2011, 07:21 AM)AriGold Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 07:12 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: Ari, your avatar never fails to elicit a grin since i know you are the complete antithesis of that dude! hah

I'm covert...

47 Secret 2hiding

I could set the building on fire...

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Oh, I just put 2 and 2 together from the photo thread. :O75
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I have lost all respect for Maytee. She showed her true colors by all the tirades and voodoo garbage she posts on facebook. I feel for her as a mother who lost her son, but IMHO as person she is a classless piece of trash.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before you have all the evidence. It biases the judgment."
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(03-05-2011, 12:57 AM)shitstorm Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 12:42 AM)rotten_cotton Wrote: *neighborhood talk*

Heard today that the Straub's have been moving furniture out of their house and have not been staying there. So sad.

Oh, man, I'm actually glad to hear that. I cannot imagine having to live in the house where your child was murdered. I hope that family, friends, work buddies, church, whatever, all pitched in to help them.

Signs_173 I couldnt stay in a home my daughter was murdered in either! :( HOW TERRIBLE! they were such beautiful kids!
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(03-05-2011, 05:00 AM)van64 Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 02:14 AM)ToledoNative Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 02:01 AM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:
(03-04-2011, 10:55 PM)shitstorm Wrote:
(03-04-2011, 10:33 PM)van64 Wrote: Does anyone think their killer(s) have killed before? [/color]


YES

I just dont see how someone could kill for the first time, this way.
This is someone with the stomach for torture etc. Blood lust so to speak.


It just seems so careless and "unprofessional" to kill this way. Tape picks up everything. Someone who knew what they were doing would use a different method, it seems.

Oh and I am so glad you have Johnny and Lisa's pic up as your avatar to remind us of just how striking of a couple they really were. Their kids would have been beautiful, yes?


Agreed!
And I don't doubt that Johnny would've turned his life around. You could tell by his pictures and specific stories people have told about him (including people I talk to) that he had a sweet spirit.
He could've gotten out of the drug game or whatever foolishness he was involved in. You just have to want to.
I've seen people who are just like Johnny turn from drug dealers into COPS! I kid you not.

Usually the trick is to go out...of Toledo.
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(03-05-2011, 09:09 AM)DickTracy Wrote: I have lost all respect for Maytee. She showed her true colors by all the tirades and voodoo garbage she posts on facebook. I feel for her as a mother who lost her son, but IMHO as person she is a classless piece of trash.


Well HELLO, Mr. Tracy! LOL!

Yes, I'm done talking to Maytee and talking about her bullshit.
And I refuse to bash a mother who has to go through this, eventhough I do believe she raised her son in an environment that was a recipe for disaster. But I'm not going to sit here and badmouth her, either. I'm just done with her.
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(03-05-2011, 06:51 AM)Lady Cop Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 06:48 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(03-05-2011, 01:59 AM)eye.of.my Wrote: I have heard that she was worse than him and it was a closed casket


This is the first time I've read that. Is that a fact or hearsay?

i read, from someone who attended, that she had an open casket and looked lovely.

OH, THANK GOD!!
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(03-05-2011, 09:47 AM)ToledoNative Wrote: Yes, I'm done talking to Maytee and talking about her bullshit.
And I refuse to bash a mother who has to go through this, eventhough I do believe she raised her son in an environment that was a recipe for disaster. But I'm not going to sit here and badmouth her, either. I'm just done with her.


That's the right thing to do...I don't have a forgiving nature when Mock & her members are basically lied about so I'm not moved to keep my opinion to myself where she is concerned.

LC does an outstanding job moderating the crime forum. She doesn't deserve to have her hard work lied about. She is VERY conscientious of every word posted.


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