(03-05-2011, 11:40 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: when the twin towers went down you didn't give a fuck?

It made me cry.

(03-05-2011, 11:42 AM)Duchess Wrote: It made me cry. [/i][/size]

So you DO care about people you don't know then?

There is hope for you yet.

Don't get me wrong I love animals, my two cats are my furry buddies, but the image of say a starving child upsets me more than the image of a starving dog.

I have had horse meat, it's not bad, it has a kind of sweet taste but when I look into a horses eyes I see intelligence, like looking into a dogs eye they have depth and can see why they are not a commercial commodity.

(03-05-2011, 11:48 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:

(03-05-2011, 11:42 AM)Duchess Wrote: It made me cry. [/i][/size]

So you DO care about people you don't know then?

Do you think I want any of these people to know I have a loving, caring, affectionate nature? Hell, no.

(03-05-2011, 11:50 AM)Maggot Wrote: I have had horse meat, it's not bad, it has a kind of sweet taste but when I look into a horses eyes I see intelligence, like looking into a dogs eye they have depth and can see why they are not a commercial commodity.

They have personalities, they are very intelligent. The horse I ride almost exclusively recognizes my laughter & understands what it is. When he sees me coming with his bridle, he knows exactly what is about to happen & dances back & forth. I'd put a bullet in anyone who laid an offensive hand on him.

(03-05-2011, 10:42 AM)notsure Wrote: Get some training in target acquisition you fucks. jesus christ. B4 I went to college I served in an army infantry special ops unit, and if I fucked up like these dudes I would be breaking big rocks into little rocks at levenworth (spelling). fucking cowboy bullshit. If you can avoid kicking down the door, avoid it! If the perp comes and goes, pick him up in the fuckin drive way. not rocket science. then search the house with most of the danger eliminated. And now to make things worse home invasion perps are dressing like cops and doing a knock and announce so people comply. Who can you trust?

There will be a point where society will continue to breach it's social contract with the individual to such a degree that the individual will be forced to take action to survive. We are already seeing this in the inner cities across america.

WACO.

They had a warrant for David Koresh, who went to town every day and had previously let sheriffs into their home. But, the cowboys wanted a showdown so they attacked with the BATF whereupon some of the Branch Davidians returned fire which THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DO UNDER TEXAS LAW. Then it became a vendetta and we know what happened. That, and Randy Weaver, turned a lot of Americans against their government.

You might not know this but special forces were used against the Davidians. The 10^th Mountain Division - along with Apache helicopters and tanks! I've seen video, taken by some of the special ops guys, with Mt Carmel in the distance, as they were preparing for the final assault. THEY WERE LAUGHING.

Shit like this is all about ego. Police and military leadership knows it, too. The cowboys get pumped up and if somebody tries to defend themselves or, God forbid, claim some Constitutional rights, it only enrages the cowboys. An attitude exists of "How dare you defy ME!". We the People ALWAYS lose in these contests, as does liberty.

There was a thread, on The Ron Paul Forums, entitled NEVER call a cop. Think about that. There isn't one dirtbag, gang banger or hoodrat on that forum. Everyone is exceptionally intelligent and politically active. They all agreed - call a cop and you could be setting yourself up for the death of a loved one, a pet, or yourself. How is that any better than some totalitarian society where people FEAR their "public servants"? It isn't.


notsure, since you were in special ops/the military, you might be interested in Oath Keepers:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

(03-05-2011, 11:50 AM)Maggot Wrote: I have had horse meat, it's not bad, it has a kind of sweet taste but when I look into a horses eyes I see intelligence, like looking into a dogs eye they have depth and can see why they are not a commercial commodity.

In laboratory tests scientists have CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN that pigs are a more intelligent species of animal than dogs.

Using your logic that means its time to put down the bacon sandwich fatboy.

People really shouldn't eat meat at all, it's not good for you.

(03-05-2011, 03:24 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(03-05-2011, 10:42 AM)notsure Wrote: Get some training in target acquisition you fucks. jesus christ. B4 I went to college I served in an army infantry special ops unit, and if I fucked up like these dudes I would be breaking big rocks into little rocks at levenworth (spelling). fucking cowboy bullshit. If you can avoid kicking down the door, avoid it! If the perp comes and goes, pick him up in the fuckin drive way. not rocket science. then search the house with most of the danger eliminated. And now to make things worse home invasion perps are dressing like cops and doing a knock and announce so people comply. Who can you trust?

There will be a point where society will continue to breach it's social contract with the individual to such a degree that the individual will be forced to take action to survive. We are already seeing this in the inner cities across america.

WACO.

They had a warrant for David Koresh, who went to town every day and had previously let sheriffs into their home. But, the cowboys wanted a showdown so they attacked with the BATF whereupon some of the Branch Davidians returned fire which THEY HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DO UNDER TEXAS LAW. Then it became a vendetta and we know what happened. That, and Randy Weaver, turned a lot of Americans against their government.

You might not know this but special forces were used against the Davidians. The 10^th Mountain Division - along with Apache helicopters and tanks! I've seen video, taken by some of the special ops guys, with Mt Carmel in the distance, as they were preparing for the final assault. THEY WERE LAUGHING.

Shit like this is all about ego. Police and military leadership knows it, too. The cowboys get pumped up and if somebody tries to defend themselves or, God forbid, claim some Constitutional rights, it only enrages the cowboys. An attitude exists of "How dare you defy ME!". We the People ALWAYS lose in these contests, as does liberty.

There was a thread, on The Ron Paul Forums, entitled NEVER call a cop. Think about that. There isn't one dirtbag, gang banger or hoodrat on that forum. Everyone is exceptionally intelligent and politically active. They all agreed - call a cop and you could be setting yourself up for the death of a loved one, a pet, or yourself. How is that any better than some totalitarian society where people FEAR their "public servants"? It isn't.


notsure, since you were in special ops/the military, you might be interested in Oath Keepers:

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

I am so glad the police aren't armed in the UK, the special armed response units have made so many fuck ups shooting people when there was no need to that I don't think all officers will EVER be armed in the UK.

As for the assholes that laid siege to and then destroyed Waco, whenever anyone asks the question "In the event of a revolution would the armed forces of the US fire on their own fellow citizens?" My answer is look at Waco and Ruby Ridge, not only would the vast majority of them fire they would have a nice laugh about it afterwards.

I watched a program called "Unseen Iraq" which showed scenes of US and British troops doing things you will never see on CNN or the BBC. Shooting unarmed people at random, using helicopter gunships to destroy an entire market place, cruising around in their personnel carriers shooting at any vehicle that comes anywhere near them and beating prisoners half to death.

Some of the young soldiers out there are in fucking hog heaven.

from maggot's perspective, he would see intelligence looking into the eyes of a potato too

(03-05-2011, 03:36 PM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: Some of the young soldiers out there are in fucking hog heaven.

One of the thugs mentioned in the murder thread said he was going to Iraq so he could kill legally. That's not verbatim & if I recall correctly he posted that for all the world to see.

(03-05-2011, 03:41 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(03-05-2011, 03:36 PM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: Some of the young soldiers out there are in fucking hog heaven.

One of the thugs mentioned in the murder thread said he was going to Iraq so he could kill legally. That's not verbatim & if I recall correctly he posted that for all the world to see.

That remark would have had to have been made by an obviously im mature ass who just didn't think it all the way through, soldiers can and do kill legally, but they are also killed legally by the other side.

(03-05-2011, 11:12 AM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote:

(03-05-2011, 05:23 AM)Duchess Wrote: [size=medium]
It's easier to read of people being murdered.

What a completely fucking retarded point of view.

If I ever see an eighteen wheeler jack knifing down a freeway and you and a dog are in harms way I'll keep your viewpoint in mind and save the fucking dog okay?

I don't want to derail this thread but I need to address this.

It isn't for you to decide what's important to ME or to Duchess or other animal lovers. I know that I'm in a minority in that I value animal life just as much as human. You think that's bullshit because you have been conditioned to believe that way. So, I think your conditioning has made you callous or chauvinistic, thinking that one species is more valuable than another. See how that works? We all have our own opinions and values. If a cop killed my dog, I would be training with a high powered rifle and planning my revenge. I would not care if I went to prison because my life would ruined after such a trauma, anyway. One of my favorite people, Gerald Celente, says: When people lose everything, they lose it. When someone ruins your life, you have nothing left to lose. One of these days, this is exactly what will happen. Somebody will take revenge. You push people hard enough and they SNAP. Think it can't happen here? Look around the world. And, don't forget that this country was founded on revolt against abuse of power.

(03-05-2011, 03:45 PM)IMaDick Wrote: im mature

*immature*

(03-05-2011, 03:38 PM)Luke Warmwater Wrote: from maggot's perspective, he would see intelligence looking into the eyes of a potato too

oh shit, that was mean! but Maggot has a good sense of humor~~

someone mentioned earlier H&K 45, my sheriff issued that weapon to us, but i didn't like it, it was too unwieldly for my hand. fucking cannon.
i had to sign a sheet rejecting the gun as a duty weapon.

(03-05-2011, 03:45 PM)IMaDick Wrote:

(03-05-2011, 03:41 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(03-05-2011, 03:36 PM)Ordinary Peephole Wrote: Some of the young soldiers out there are in fucking hog heaven.

One of the thugs mentioned in the murder thread said he was going to Iraq so he could kill legally. That's not verbatim & if I recall correctly he posted that for all the world to see.

That remark would have had to have been made by an obviously im mature ass who just didn't think it all the way through, soldiers can and do kill legally, but they are also killed legally by the other side.

He was in Iraq and currently with the National Guard. Nice, huh? The military enlisted lots of gang bangers. I think they're trying to undo that and be more careful but the damage is done.

(03-05-2011, 03:51 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Maggot has a good sense of humor~~

Yes, he does UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE.

Maggot is charming UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE

Waco: The Rules of Engagement

Pt 1 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...6377572665#

Pt 2 - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...9103175934

(03-05-2011, 03:47 PM)shitstorm Wrote: I don't want to derail this thread but I need to address this.

It isn't for you to decide what's important to ME or to Duchess or other animal lovers. I know that I'm in a minority in that I value animal life just as much as human. You think that's bullshit because you have been conditioned to believe that way. So, I think your conditioning has made you callous or chauvinistic, thinking that one species is more valuable than another. See how that works? We all have our own opinions and values. If a cop killed my dog, I would be training with a high powered rifle and planning my revenge. I would not care if I went to prison because my life would ruined after such a trauma, anyway. One of my favorite people, Gerald Celente, says: When people lose everything, they lose it. When someone ruins your life, you have nothing left to lose. One of these days, this is exactly what will happen. Somebody will take revenge. You push people hard enough and they SNAP. Think it can't happen here? Look around the world. And, don't forget that this country was founded on revolt against abuse of power.

I am stating my opinion that I think human life is more important than the life of a dog or a pigeon, I will continue to state that opinion and i will continue to state how retarded I think people who care as much or more about animals than human beings are.

Now get back on your horse and get the fuck out of my face.

comprende pendejo?

(03-05-2011, 03:54 PM)Duchess Wrote:

(03-05-2011, 03:51 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: Maggot has a good sense of humor~~

Yes, he does UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE.

Maggot is charming UNLIKE SOME OTHER PEOPLE

so was Forrest...