(03-09-2011, 10:21 PM)concerned Wrote: I am reading alot in some of these post doubt that people have with the investigators on this case. Detective work is a science. A puzzle that has to be put together piece by piece. Its very tedious and can be frustrating. I have no doubt in my mind the Sheriffs department, Toledo Police, and the FBI will solve this case. I am positive they have been working non stop on it. One thing we have to remember..... They are the voices for Johnny and Lisa now. They will end up telling their story. We want the answers in a few weeks time...... they want to make a death penalty case. If I have to wait, then I have to wait. I want a solid case too.

I beg to differ, sorry. My step mother was involved in a robbery/ homicide (she was a perp not a victim) and when her and the guy she commited the crime with left state, they found the guy and still haven't found her and its been 6 years now. Some think shes dead, others don't know, and the man she committed this with isn't talking. Similar comments where made along the lines of well she was a drug addicted prostitute, ect. and it was basicly left at that. My point here I guess is niether of these two are the first nor the last of unsolved homicides or other crimes in Toledo, and I am sure they won't be the last. I personally am giving up hope and feel for these families, even with Maytees fits. By the way happened to be out at the cemetary today for unrelated visits and his headstone is there was just sunken in but they are lookin for the person that wrapped the beads around the neck but they are pretty sure that as we speculated on here that it was just her way of keeping it in the media. Sorry to lazy tonight to worry about puncuations and spelling guys.

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

So, I decided to check some more people and am unable to find several others pages as well. Such as, BC, MJ, and others! What's going on here?

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

both pages r now set on private!

(03-09-2011, 11:34 PM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

both pages r now set on private!

My page is set to private too, but you can still view my name, just no info! I did a search of both of their names and narrowed it down to "Toledo, OH" and nothing came up. Last time I checked, their pages were set to private, but you could still view their "info" and "friends. " Are you able to at least go to a page showing that they are there? Thanks!

(03-09-2011, 11:34 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

So, I decided to check some more people and am unable to find several others pages as well. Such as, BC, MJ, and others! What's going on here?

I still can find BC.

Inspector G,
I still see TW and AG (private). BC and MM still public.

(03-09-2011, 11:41 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:34 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

So, I decided to check some more people and am unable to find several others pages as well. Such as, BC, MJ, and others! What's going on here?

I still can find BC.

Okay, I found them by going into another one of their friend's pages and then finding them by searching through those friends. I think they must have adjusted their account settings so that their page does NOT show up in a "search." Sorry!

(03-09-2011, 11:37 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:34 PM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

both pages r now set on private!

My page is set to private too, but you can still view my name, just no info! I did a search of both of their names and narrowed it down to "Toledo, OH" and nothing came up. Last time I checked, their pages were set to private, but you could still view their "info" and "friends. " Are you able to at least go to a page showing that they are there? Thanks!

HUMM idk THE Hon...they might have closed it down but I was still about to look up BCs profile

DEFENDANT 1:
mm
TOLEDO, OH 43605
Alias(es)

M

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1) FAILURE TO APPEAR F4
2 (D -1) FAILURE TO APPEAR F4

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DATE SEQ EVENT

3/4/2011 1 Title : OPN:ORIG INDICTMENT FILED
FTA 2 CTS
PARTY : D1 -

3/4/2011 2 Title : BND:NO BOND SET (CLERKS)
PARTY : D1 -

3/7/2011 1 Title : WAR:WARRANT/PRINT ISS BY CLERK
PARTY : D1 -

3/7/2011 2 Title : JRE:EXISTING PENDING CASE
CR10-2904 & CR09-3119
PARTY : -


It is public record.


name edited out by LC. not related to case.

(03-09-2011, 11:31 PM)esbee Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:28 PM)Nina Wrote: Esbee, I am very interested in knowing why MM was arrested. I still see him and BC as potentials.

I knew you were...that's why I posted. I haven't been able to keep track of who's who and all the theories, but I knew he was one people were keeping track of.

I came across MM's current case and was kind of following. Now I've lost it and can't remember the original charges. I'm not very good at this and really should've started taking notes from the very beginning.

Theft, carrying a concealed weapon, fta, fta, fta.....

After being brought back from Kansas, they let him out on SOR with a court date of 3/16. Then bumped the appear date back to 3/8.

(03-09-2011, 11:49 PM)concerned Wrote: DEFENDANT 1:
M
4
TOLEDO, OH 43605
Alias(es)
M
M

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1) TO APPEAR F4
2 (D -1)ME TO APPEAR F4

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DATE SEQ EVENT

3/4/2011 1 Title : OPN:ORIG INDICTMENT FILED
FTA 2 CTS
PARTY : D1 - M

3/4/2011 2 Title : BND:NO BOND SET (CLERKS)
PARTY : D1 - M

3/7/2011 1 Title : WAR:WARRANT/PRINT ISS BY CLERK
PARTY : D1 - M

3/7/2011 2 Title : JRE:EXISTING PENDING CASE
CR10-2904 & CR09-3119
PARTY : -


It is public record

So what is the original indictment? Can you tell? I still think they might be holding MM and BC on other charges so they can put the pressure on them in this case. Of course it may just be that I am bull-headed and have tunnel vision but they still make sense to me.


edited by LC, not related to case.

(03-09-2011, 11:46 PM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:37 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:34 PM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

both pages r now set on private!

My page is set to private too, but you can still view my name, just no info! I did a search of both of their names and narrowed it down to "Toledo, OH" and nothing came up. Last time I checked, their pages were set to private, but you could still view their "info" and "friends. " Are you able to at least go to a page showing that they are there? Thanks!

HUMM idk THE Hon...they might have closed it down but I was still about to look up BCs profile

he is still there

(03-09-2011, 11:55 PM)Adub Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:31 PM)esbee Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:28 PM)Nina Wrote: Esbee, I am very interested in knowing why MM was arrested. I still see him and BC as potentials.

I knew you were...that's why I posted. I haven't been able to keep track of who's who and all the theories, but I knew he was one people were keeping track of.

I came across MM's current case and was kind of following. Now I've lost it and can't remember the original charges. I'm not very good at this and really should've started taking notes from the very beginning.

Theft, carrying a concealed weapon, fta, fta, fta.....

After being brought back from Kansas, they let him out on SOR with a court date of 3/16. Then bumped the appear date back to 3/8.

Thank you much. I couldn't find the damned document.

(03-09-2011, 11:55 PM)Nina Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:49 PM)concerned Wrote: DEFENDANT 1:

4
TOLEDO, OH 43605
Alias(es)



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1)M FAILURE TO APPEAR F4
2 (D -1)M FAILURE TO APPEAR F4

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DATE SEQ EVENT

3/4/2011 1 Title : OPN:ORIG INDICTMENT FILED
FTA 2 CTS
PARTY : D1 -

3/4/2011 2 Title : BND:NO BOND SET (CLERKS)
PARTY : D1 - M

3/7/2011 1 Title : WAR:WARRANT/PRINT ISS BY CLERK
PARTY : D1 -

3/7/2011 2 Title : JRE:EXISTING PENDING CASE
CR10-2904 & CR09-3119
PARTY : -


It is public record

So what is the original indictment? Can you tell? I still think they might be holding MM and BC on other charges so they can put the pressure on them in this case. Of course it may just be that I am bull-headed and have tunnel vision but they still make sense to me.

Aggravatged Burglary


edited by LC, not related to case

(03-09-2011, 11:55 PM)Nina Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:49 PM)concerned Wrote: DEFENDANT 1:
M

TOLEDO, OH 43605
Alias(es)
M
M

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1)M FAILURE TO APPEAR F4
2 (D -1)M FAILURE TO APPEAR F4

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DATE SEQ EVENT

3/4/2011 1 Title : OPN:ORIG INDICTMENT FILED
FTA 2 CTS
PARTY : D1 - M

3/4/2011 2 Title : BND:NO BOND SET (CLERKS)
PARTY : D1 - M

3/7/2011 1 Title : WAR:WARRANT/PRINT ISS BY CLERK
PARTY : D1 - M

3/7/2011 2 Title : JRE:EXISTING PENDING CASE
CR10-2904 & CR09-3119
PARTY : -


It is public record

So what is the original indictment? Can you tell? I still think they might be holding MM and BC on other charges so they can put the pressure on them in this case. Of course it may just be that I am bull-headed and have tunnel vision but they still make sense to me.

I still stand that I will kiss the asses of everyone who has said BC is involved in some way IF he really is. I personally think he knows just as much as the rest of us, maybe a little more as hes got many connections, but still no involvement.


name edited out by LC, not related to case.

(03-09-2011, 11:46 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:41 PM)heartbreaker6713 Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:34 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:29 PM)Inspector Gary Wrote: I can't find TW or AG on Facebook anymore... Is it just me or did they take their page down?

So, I decided to check some more people and am unable to find several others pages as well. Such as, BC, MJ, and others! What's going on here?

I still can find BC.

Okay, I found them by going into another one of their friend's pages and then finding them by searching through those friends. I think they must have adjusted their account settings so that their page does NOT show up in a "search." Sorry!

i typed in bc name in the search and it came up for me. idk.

(03-09-2011, 11:32 PM)eye.of.my Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 10:21 PM)concerned Wrote: I am reading alot in some of these post doubt that people have with the investigators on this case. Detective work is a science. A puzzle that has to be put together piece by piece. Its very tedious and can be frustrating. I have no doubt in my mind the Sheriffs department, Toledo Police, and the FBI will solve this case. I am positive they have been working non stop on it. One thing we have to remember..... They are the voices for Johnny and Lisa now. They will end up telling their story. We want the answers in a few weeks time...... they want to make a death penalty case. If I have to wait, then I have to wait. I want a solid case too.

I beg to differ, sorry. My step mother was involved in a robbery/ homicide (she was a perp not a victim) and when her and the guy she commited the crime with left state, they found the guy and still haven't found her and its been 6 years now. Some think shes dead, others don't know, and the man she committed this with isn't talking. Similar comments where made along the lines of well she was a drug addicted prostitute, ect. and it was basicly left at that. My point here I guess is niether of these two are the first nor the last of unsolved homicides or other crimes in Toledo, and I am sure they won't be the last. I personally am giving up hope and feel for these families, even with Maytees fits. By the way happened to be out at the cemetary today for unrelated visits and his headstone is there was just sunken in but they are lookin for the person that wrapped the beads around the neck but they are pretty sure that as we speculated on here that it was just her way of keeping it in the media. Sorry to lazy tonight to worry about puncuations and spelling guys.

Im sorry to hear that I hope you get your justice

Speaking of records, I'm curious to know if AG is in fact enrolled in classes at OCC, being that TW stated he was working on a paper the night of the murders...

(03-09-2011, 11:58 PM)concerned Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:55 PM)Nina Wrote:

(03-09-2011, 11:49 PM)concerned Wrote: DEFENDANT 1:
M
ST
TOLEDO, OH 43605
Alias(es)
M


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
COUNT PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.
1 (D -1)MFAILURE TO APPEAR F4
2 (D -1) FAILURE TO APPEAR F4

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DATE SEQ EVENT

3/4/2011 1 Title : OPN:ORIG INDICTMENT FILED
FTA 2 CTS
PARTY : D1 - M

3/4/2011 2 Title : BND:NO BOND SET (CLERKS)
PARTY : D1 - M

3/7/2011 1 Title : WAR:WARRANT/PRINT ISS BY CLERK
PARTY : D1 - M

3/7/2011 2 Title : JRE:EXISTING PENDING CASE
CR10-2904 & CR09-3119
PARTY : -


It is public record

So what is the original indictment? Can you tell? I still think they might be holding MM and BC on other charges so they can put the pressure on them in this case. Of course it may just be that I am bull-headed and have tunnel vision but they still make sense to me.

Aggravatged Burglary

Just checked his history from TMC and all the charges have been dismissed!!

CRA-10-16726-0101 M04/21/1982 FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH ORDER OR SIGNAL OF POLICE OFFICER ELUDE OR FLEE DISMISSED 10/22/2010
CRA-09-10676-0101 M 04/21/1982 PERMITTING DRUG ABUSE VEHICLE COMMISSION OF FELONY DRUG ABUSE OFFENSE DISMISSED 09/29/2009
CRA-09-13386-0101 04/21/1982 AGGRAVATED ROBBERY DEADLY WEAPON DISMISSED 08/31/2009 CRA-09-17037-0102 M04/21/1982 HAVING WEAPONS WHILE UNDER DISABILITY DRUG RELATED CONVICTION DISMISSED 12/02/2009
CRA-09-17037-0202 M 04/21/1982 CARRYING CONCEALED WEAPONS DEADLY WEAPON OTHER THAN A HANDGUN DISMISSED 12/02/2009
CRA-09-20766-0101 M 04/21/1982 THEFT WITH PURPOSE TO DEPRIVE KNOWINGLY OBTAIN OR EXERT CONTROL WITHOUT CONSENT OF OWNER DISMISSED 10/22/2010


The ONLY thing he has been found GUILTY of (on TMC) is Driving without License (twice).

So, I still am not sure what they arrested him for since it appears the charges were dropped. I am wondering if the charges are for another court, or if they are pulling him in on something minute because they want to press him???

Concerned, did this info come from the TMC site or another court? Thanks




name edited out by LC for not being related to case.

You mean I could do all that crap and have it all dismissed? Damn.
And then he gets picked up for failure to show? What, failure to show
so they could dismiss him. haha