(03-12-2011, 01:39 AM)onefortheroad Wrote:

(03-12-2011, 01:28 AM)Inspector Gary Wrote: Nina, I agree with you... TOO many coincidences!!

Ditto for me! I think the perps are in that gang somewhere, and AG and TW know who did it. I'm just wavering a little about whether AG was actively involved, but I'm still convinced that TW set it up.

I waver back and forth on AG being active in it too. But I think he knows who it was and TW was involved. She may not have known they were going to kill them, but she knew something was going to happen that night.

(03-12-2011, 01:56 AM)Nina Wrote: I waver back and forth on AG being active in it too. But I think he knows who it was and TW was involved. She may not have known they were going to kill them, but she knew something was going to happen that night.

I believe that too.

(03-12-2011, 01:11 AM)Miss Conspiracy Wrote:

(03-12-2011, 01:08 AM)wanttoknow Wrote:

(03-12-2011, 12:39 AM)JsMom Wrote: Dont be mad because I stand up for myself! I have never talked about NO ONES dead child....enough said

No one is mad because you're standing up for yourself. We are saying take it somewhere else. This is not about you and Maytee.

I shouldn't have copied those postings on here... you're right it's not about them two. Funny thing is Maytee is still going on and on, on FB about JsMom. She desperately wants us to put it on here for her to read. Too bad I'm not gonna give that satisfaction and I don't think anyone else should! She's just talking to herself over there right now.

Miss Conspiracy don’t stop copying. You have every right. I just think if there is a personal problem, this is not the place to hash it out. They should take it some where else. Please don’t think that was directed at you. Your posts are very informative. Keep doing what you're doing. I'm just tired of reading about JsMom and Maytee's problem with each other. JsMom should take that to another thread.

(03-11-2011, 06:32 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: Open Words to The Straubs, Lindsay, and Extended Family,
Maytee, John Sr, their boys, and LE.

There are pages and pages of speculation on here about everyone
except the man in the moon. A huge percentage of them will be
incorrect and rumors gone amuck.

I can totally understand where family members are coming from and I beg for
them to let it roll over like water over a duck. No one is trying to do
anything but solve the case.

Here is an example of how things can go weird fast. One poster said
that the East Coast Murderer was ID'd by a cigarette he had thrown on
the ground. In the next post, someone said something to the fact that,
'I am so happy they caught him throwing his cigarette out the car window.'

Well, the latter was not stated, and was not true. The perpetrator had
dropped the cigarette while walking outside a public building and it was
picked up by police for DNA.

Remember playing telephone in school? It happened in the example up there.
And it probably has happened hundreds of times here. No one really knows
what color the duct tape is and no one really knows what the death scene
looked like except Maytee, John Sr and the LE. Consequently we have
spewed alot of shit I am certain. Sorry M, JSR and LE. But we are
only novices and only trying. Forgive us and realize we are not the
Official Investigators, but really really novices, WANTING TO THROW
OUT ANY CLUE TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS HORRID CASE AND ALLOW
HEALING. Sorry too about some of the really really stupid sexual ridiciulous
comments. That was about as dumb as they come and from obviously
an individual who is not a parent or has never been in true fear of a loved one.

Don't give up on us, please. We mean no malice and love your kids.

just wanted to repost this. no one really responded to it, but i thought that it was one of the best posts that i have seen here in awhile, and i agree whole-heartedely. sometimes a lot of you on here get wrapped up in the moment of the posts and forget about the point of this whole thread. i have refrained from posting for the most part because, although connected, i am far removed from this case. i have to say that it is a shame to see a number of posters (that i have come to respect after following this all along) sink to the level of those that they condemn by "fighting fire with fire". if you are against fighting with fire, then why fight against fire with the same thing? anyways, i'm bloody going on like a plonker (see this is why i have refrained from posting). i hope i haven't ruined my initial point that wolfhouse had a great post here and that i think we should stick to the initial point of this whole thread and strive to be a positive factor in this whole tragic mess and respect all of those effected, no matter how unfortunate their coping mechanisms may be.

Well said Wolf and pfifl. I agree

(03-12-2011, 02:17 AM)Nina Wrote: Well said Wolf and pfifl. I agree

Thank You!

(03-12-2011, 02:10 AM)pfifltrigg Wrote:

(03-11-2011, 06:32 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: Open Words to The Straubs, Lindsay, and Extended Family,
Maytee, John Sr, their boys, and LE.

There are pages and pages of speculation on here about everyone
except the man in the moon. A huge percentage of them will be
incorrect and rumors gone amuck.

I can totally understand where family members are coming from and I beg for
them to let it roll over like water over a duck. No one is trying to do
anything but solve the case.

Here is an example of how things can go weird fast. One poster said
that the East Coast Murderer was ID'd by a cigarette he had thrown on
the ground. In the next post, someone said something to the fact that,
'I am so happy they caught him throwing his cigarette out the car window.'

Well, the latter was not stated, and was not true. The perpetrator had
dropped the cigarette while walking outside a public building and it was
picked up by police for DNA.

Remember playing telephone in school? It happened in the example up there.
And it probably has happened hundreds of times here. No one really knows
what color the duct tape is and no one really knows what the death scene
looked like except Maytee, John Sr and the LE. Consequently we have
spewed alot of shit I am certain. Sorry M, JSR and LE. But we are
only novices and only trying. Forgive us and realize we are not the
Official Investigators, but really really novices, WANTING TO THROW
OUT ANY CLUE TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS HORRID CASE AND ALLOW
HEALING. Sorry too about some of the really really stupid sexual ridiciulous
comments. That was about as dumb as they come and from obviously
an individual who is not a parent or has never been in true fear of a loved one.

Don't give up on us, please. We mean no malice and love your kids.

just wanted to repost this. no one really responded to it, but i thought that it was one of the best posts that i have seen here in awhile, and i agree whole-heartedely. sometimes a lot of you on here get wrapped up in the moment of the posts and forget about the point of this whole thread. i have refrained from posting for the most part because, although connected, i am far removed from this case. i have to say that it is a shame to see a number of posters (that i have come to respect after following this all along) sink to the level of those that they condemn by "fighting fire with fire". if you are against fighting with fire, then why fight against fire with the same thing? anyways, i'm bloody going on like a plonker (see this is why i have refrained from posting). i hope i haven't ruined my initial point that wolfhouse had a great post here and that i think we should stick to the initial point of this whole thread and strive to be a positive factor in this whole tragic mess and respect all of those effected, no matter how unfortunate their coping mechanisms may be.

I meant Thank You. It's time this thread got back to what it started out to be.

(03-12-2011, 02:10 AM)pfifltrigg Wrote:

(03-11-2011, 06:32 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: Open Words to The Straubs, Lindsay, and Extended Family,
Maytee, John Sr, their boys, and LE.

There are pages and pages of speculation on here about everyone
except the man in the moon. A huge percentage of them will be
incorrect and rumors gone amuck.

I can totally understand where family members are coming from and I beg for
them to let it roll over like water over a duck. No one is trying to do
anything but solve the case.

Here is an example of how things can go weird fast. One poster said
that the East Coast Murderer was ID'd by a cigarette he had thrown on
the ground. In the next post, someone said something to the fact that,
'I am so happy they caught him throwing his cigarette out the car window.'

Well, the latter was not stated, and was not true. The perpetrator had
dropped the cigarette while walking outside a public building and it was
picked up by police for DNA.

Remember playing telephone in school? It happened in the example up there.
And it probably has happened hundreds of times here. No one really knows
what color the duct tape is and no one really knows what the death scene
looked like except Maytee, John Sr and the LE. Consequently we have
spewed alot of shit I am certain. Sorry M, JSR and LE. But we are
only novices and only trying. Forgive us and realize we are not the
Official Investigators, but really really novices, WANTING TO THROW
OUT ANY CLUE TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS HORRID CASE AND ALLOW
HEALING. Sorry too about some of the really really stupid sexual ridiciulous
comments. That was about as dumb as they come and from obviously
an individual who is not a parent or has never been in true fear of a loved one.

Don't give up on us, please. We mean no malice and love your kids.

just wanted to repost this. no one really responded to it, but i thought that it was one of the best posts that i have seen here in awhile, and i agree whole-heartedely. sometimes a lot of you on here get wrapped up in the moment of the posts and forget about the point of this whole thread. i have refrained from posting for the most part because, although connected, i am far removed from this case. i have to say that it is a shame to see a number of posters (that i have come to respect after following this all along) sink to the level of those that they condemn by "fighting fire with fire". if you are against fighting with fire, then why fight against fire with the same thing? anyways, i'm bloody going on like a plonker (see this is why i have refrained from posting). i hope i haven't ruined my initial point that wolfhouse had a great post here and that i think we should stick to the initial point of this whole thread and strive to be a positive factor in this whole tragic mess and respect all of those effected, no matter how unfortunate their coping mechanisms may be.

Anything would be better than nothing at this point. I think we have thought of just about any scenario that can possibly be thought of at this point.

(03-11-2011, 07:48 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: On a more 'today's' front. What do you locals see?
Are there still dark vans around the Straub neighborhood?
Have any bodies been found floating in the local rivers?
Any odd shootings?
Has Toledo been totally crime free since these dastardly murders?
Has the muzzle been put on the retired Sgt?
Does "Nothing smell Rotten in Denmark?"

I'm smellin nothing rotten in Denmark!
of course T-town hasn't been crime free since these murders...
come on now!!

(03-12-2011, 01:45 AM)NightOwl Wrote:
This evening I saw the electronic billboard on Reynolds Road, Toledo
it sure is different seeing it up on the board than on a computer screen - it really upset me and my friends seeing such a darling young couple like this up on that screen. Very Sad!

Slaps you in the face. Makes it real. I hope it has the same affect on the people who know who did this.

I've officially lost it...okay, so i'm on my way to pick up a friend from the airport who is returning from a business trip to Cleveland...now mind you when i found out about the trip i immediately started begging to go, explaining the case and how i could just pop on over to Toledo while there...and do what exactly, I have no idea but it sounded good at the time, to me anyway...well now i'm runnig out the door to pick him up and i completely bust ass down my stairs, had to been the entire flight, so while driving to the airport i have now managed to convince myself that a spell had been cast upon me and not only that, i then proceeded to try and rationalize it to my friend who already thinks i'm crazy for wanting to go in the first place...oh please let this case be solved soon before i wind up a Loon!!

(03-12-2011, 12:21 AM)TotallyCurious Wrote:

(03-12-2011, 12:16 AM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-12-2011, 12:12 AM)TotallyCurious Wrote: THAT IS TOTAL BULLSHIT

Because one Mock Member can not keep her temper and her
private life silent ......all Mock Members have to be 'kept from
the posts.'

WOW........talk about out of control.

take it however~Im not gonna sit back and let NOBODY talk about my son PERIOD!

You just have to make every post about you dont you ? YOu need to
get some psychiatric help woman. You dont listen. You offer no
grace for a grieving mother. IT IS NOT ABOUT YOU. Take a step
back and look at this case and forget all else just for the time on this board.

JSMOM:

UGH!!!!!

this is not about you.

some of us are tired of you

(03-12-2011, 02:00 AM)onefortheroad Wrote:

(03-12-2011, 01:56 AM)Nina Wrote: I waver back and forth on AG being active in it too. But I think he knows who it was and TW was involved. She may not have known they were going to kill them, but she knew something was going to happen that night.

I believe that too.

Same here, and becomming more and more curious about Z's role in it as well.

(03-12-2011, 12:03 AM)TotallyCurious Wrote: JsMom, you can quit responding to her also.
She has a point.
NOW STOP IT. TAKE IT ON ANOTHER PAGE WHERE THE
TWO OF YOU CAN PISS ON EACH CHILD"S GRAVE SEEING
WHO HURTS THE MOST AND CAN PISS OFF THE OTHER
ONE MOST. THIS IS JUST SICK AND HAS NO BUSINESS HERE.
DROP TALKING ABOUT YOUR DEAD SON. We are sorry.
We can do nothing about it. YOU NEED HELP SWEETIE.

amen

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: The day you set up my son johnny n lisa to have lisas house robbed by your goons is the day you all signed your death sentence thank you god for guiding law enforcement to all the wolves dressed in sheeps clothing... Their is no perfect murder i told you all noone gets away!!! Rest in heavenly peace johnny n lisa i promise you justice does prevail and noone got away they all die my promise to you my son i love you infinity n beyond
TCH: Did they find out who did it?
TS: does this mean we finally have some leads ?
A: apologies are in order

(03-12-2011, 03:47 AM)Inspector Gary Wrote: Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: The day you set up my son johnny n lisa to have lisas house robbed by your goons is the day you all signed your death sentence thank you god for guiding law enforcement to all the wolves dressed in sheeps clothing... Their is no perfect murder i told you all noone gets away!!! Rest in heavenly peace johnny n lisa i promise you justice does prevail and noone got away they all die my promise to you my son i love you infinity n beyond
TCH: Did they find out who did it?
TS: does this mean we finally have some leads ?
A: apologies are in order

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez Get lost demon you are not welcomed here have respect and stay off this page only god law abiding citizens are welcomed here

give props where props are due:

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez
A sincere thanks to wolf on the mock forum for your choice of words adressing our families and our kids johnny and lisa their siblings my husband and i and the straub family you truly have our respect unlike many others that just want to attack gossip and speculate and lie about things and situations they are truly clueless about. Thank you again god bless
39 minutes ago via iPhone

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(03-11-2011, 09:25 PM)Nina Wrote: A guy I know is friends with AG on FB and he showed me his page:

ON January 17:

AG: im takin bout DEVILS ...what is the world comin to.. niggaz n bitches get sweated n sell they soulz...what happened to al the thorough street niggaz n bitches U n U n U aint my round...DEVILS get up off me stupidddd

TW: aint no real niggas or bytchs left out here anymore u kno dat ...very few r left....

BC: that sum real live shit u never who or wen even tha closest turn bitch!aint 2 many real niggas left take it bacc 2 tha day n start bodyin these bitches is tha only way

TW to a girl talking to her man: i swear hoe i will slice ur throat bytch...bytch throw yoself away u fukin trashy ass bytch......cum get up wyt me..ill meet up wyt u.. (She forgot to add the "God Bless" here.......)

Random Status Updates from AG in January:
AG: it im chillin haha apprently somebodies gonna kill me haha do me the favor foreal

AG: fuck it ur nobody till somebody kills u

I know i could be way off base here but I keep coming back to the fact that both TW and AG have said that is probably why JC was targeted .....he was a snitch. So WHY would they be hanging out with him and LS if they think they are snitches? References over and over and over about snitches up until the day of the murders and then Nothing more about it for weeks. They know something................

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As I recall the saying...."keep your friends close & your enemies CLOSER". Sure makes me think of TW & AG (especially after reading the above FB post. IMO...TW jumped at the chance to show AG how true "gangsta bitch" she is by collaborating over time a plan of realing in the "snitches" with her pregnant pathetic ass! Interesting...the way TW talks, she sounds like a real jealous, show no mercy, cold sneaky bitch herself. I'm sure LS thought they were cool like "girlfriends"...NOT A F-N CHANCE! LS was a goody2shoes compared to TW. Probably what she couldn't stand, maybe that's why a couple extra smacks went to LS and a spit to go with it while AG dealt with JC...just a thought.

(03-12-2011, 03:47 AM)Inspector Gary Wrote: Maytee La Cubana Vazquez: infinity n beyond

Is she now channeling Buzz Lightyear?