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Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
(03-16-2011, 07:09 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: wow all this crazy shit over t.w come on know she had lead a bad life but as far as saying she is a murderer is insane so if t.w is a gangsta and into drug's why did jc befriend her may be because he was partaking in the same activity's as t.w who know's only god does and who are you to sitt her and accuse some one of somthing with not knowing all the truth's what happend to being innocent till proven guilty o.m.g well if they think t.w is the main suspect why havent they made any arrest yet i think maybe their is more then what's being told to this story ................ ?

I've thought Tiffany has some guilt in this from day one. I can spell out all the reasons why if you really need me to. However I've never said that she laid a hand on anyone, I'm thinking more along the lines of accessory to murder. Also, pretty much everyone here has said that it's possible that Johnny was involved in shady dealings, most likely with drugs... so what does that mean? He didn't deserve to die for it & neither did Lisa... what exactly is your point in mentioning that? I've accussed Tiffany for accessory based on the things that I know, that I consider to be fact along with who she's shown herself to be (her character) publicly on her FB page before, during & after the murders. I don't think they've made an arrest yet because they need to make sure they have all of their i's dotted & t's crossed, with ALL parties involved because as most of us know, you only have one opportunity to present a case & convict an individual for murder.

So.... Smooth Criminal.... do you personally know Tiffany? If so maybe you could present the questions that others have asked JsMom to ask Tiffany for us
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(03-16-2011, 07:24 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 07:09 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: wow all this crazy shit over t.w come on know she had lead a bad life but as far as saying she is a murderer is insane so if t.w is a gangsta and into drug's why did jc befriend her may be because he was partaking in the same activity's as t.w who know's only god does and who are you to sitt her and accuse some one of somthing with not knowing all the truth's what happend to being innocent till proven guilty o.m.g well if they think t.w is the main suspect why havent they made any arrest yet i think maybe their is more then what's being told to this story ................ ?

I've thought Tiffany has some guilt in this from day one. I can spell out all the reasons why if you really need me to. However I've never said that she laid a hand on anyone, I'm thinking more along the lines of accessory to murder. Also, pretty much everyone here has said that it's possible that Johnny was involved in shady dealings, most likely with drugs... so what does that mean? He didn't deserve to die for it & neither did Lisa... what exactly is your point in mentioning that? I've accussed Tiffany for accessory based on the things that I know, that I consider to be fact along with who she's shown herself to be (her character) publicly on her FB page before, during & after the murders. I don't think they've made an arrest yet because they need to make sure they have all of their i's dotted & t's crossed, with ALL parties involved because as most of us know, you only have one opportunity to present a case & convict an individual for murder.

So.... Smooth Criminal.... do you personally know Tiffany? If so maybe you could present the questions that others have asked JsMom to ask Tiffany for us
Listens attentively Smiley_emoticons_stumm very curious about this one. O and the name "smooth criminal" sounds like a winner to me!
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(03-16-2011, 06:35 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 06:06 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Nina thanks! BA has a totally new Facebook page that she started - she has abandoned the old page pretty much last post on it was Valentines Day. On her new FB page she doesn't have TW as a friend - however I'm sure Tiff has BA old page on hers. Crazy LOL!

Another person she no longer has as a friend is the guy who was in the pics with Lisa's sister and also in the pics TW posted on her own page just after the murders, the ones with VD & BA.

That guy started a new fb, just like BA did.
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well who are you to judge me by my screen name it's just a name i picked it just to add a lil bit of excitment to the page i could really care less who does not like my screen name im on just like you are trying to get info and help with this case wow people are so judgemental these day's i tell ya lol just having a laugh hahahhahhha
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(03-16-2011, 07:24 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 07:09 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: wow all this crazy shit over t.w come on know she had lead a bad life but as far as saying she is a murderer is insane so if t.w is a gangsta and into drug's why did jc befriend her may be because he was partaking in the same activity's as t.w who know's only god does and who are you to sitt her and accuse some one of somthing with not knowing all the truth's what happend to being innocent till proven guilty o.m.g well if they think t.w is the main suspect why havent they made any arrest yet i think maybe their is more then what's being told to this story ................ ?

I've thought Tiffany has some guilt in this from day one. I can spell out all the reasons why if you really need me to. However I've never said that she laid a hand on anyone, I'm thinking more along the lines of accessory to murder. Also, pretty much everyone here has said that it's possible that Johnny was involved in shady dealings, most likely with drugs... so what does that mean? He didn't deserve to die for it & neither did Lisa... what exactly is your point in mentioning that? I've accussed Tiffany for accessory based on the things that I know, that I consider to be fact along with who she's shown herself to be (her character) publicly on her FB page before, during & after the murders. I don't think they've made an arrest yet because they need to make sure they have all of their i's dotted & t's crossed, with ALL parties involved because as most of us know, you only have one opportunity to present a case & convict an individual for murder.

So.... Smooth Criminal.... do you personally know Tiffany? If so maybe you could present the questions that others have asked JsMom to ask Tiffany for us

Well said Freshbait!!
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(03-16-2011, 07:29 PM)JsMom Wrote: Listens attentively Smiley_emoticons_stumm very curious about this one. O and the name "smooth criminal" sounds like a winner to me!

Cheers I'd like to think I'm smarter then my avatar looks lol I smell something funky in the air. If I'm wrong, my apologies. We shall see.....
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Erica B: Everyday without an answer only builds their case stronger... the law is making progress and are only building a concrete case against the monsters who were involved... just because there is silence does NOT mean they dont know who you are....

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Maytee La Cubana Vazquez I agree totally n thanx by tge way did you delete her and block her cus her and boyfriend keep coming here tormenting me
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(03-16-2011, 07:41 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: well who are you to judge me by my screen name it's just a name i picked it just to add a lil bit of excitment to the page i could really care less who does not like my screen name im on just like you are trying to get info and help with this case wow people are so judgemental these day's i tell ya lol just having a laugh hahahhahhha

Could you possibly put spaces at the end of your sentences? Your posts are difficult to read. Thanks!Smiley_emoticons_smile
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(03-16-2011, 07:32 PM)Adub Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 06:35 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 06:06 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Nina thanks! BA has a totally new Facebook page that she started - she has abandoned the old page pretty much last post on it was Valentines Day. On her new FB page she doesn't have TW as a friend - however I'm sure Tiff has BA old page on hers. Crazy LOL!

Another person she no longer has as a friend is the guy who was in the pics with Lisa's sister and also in the pics TW posted on her own page just after the murders, the ones with VD & BA.

That guy started a new fb, just like BA did.

I think your meaning JB? Think he moved to another state NC.
JB has a clean as a whistle record.
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(03-16-2011, 07:42 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 07:29 PM)JsMom Wrote: Listens attentively Smiley_emoticons_stumm very curious about this one. O and the name "smooth criminal" sounds like a winner to me!

Cheers I'd like to think I'm smarter then my avatar looks lol I smell something funky in the air. If I'm wrong, my apologies. We shall see.....

Me too!! My hinky meter is a buzzing!!
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Lol, you guys are way off. I personally know Smooth Criminal, and they are not Tiffany, nor do they even know Tiffany. I was speaking to them about this site, and they were offended that we all were trash talking this Tiffany, and they wanted to speak for her. They are not a criminal by any means, lol. Just a nosy, snoopy old coot.
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(03-16-2011, 07:41 PM)smooth criminal Wrote: well who are you to judge me by my screen name it's just a name i picked it just to add a lil bit of excitment to the page i could really care less who does not like my screen name im on just like you are trying to get info and help with this case wow people are so judgemental these day's i tell ya lol just having a laugh hahahhahhha

So, what are your thoughts on this case? Who do you think is responsible and how did it all go down?
"The old believe everything; the middle-aged suspect everything; the young know everything." Oscar Wilde
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btw...Mock does not have "hinky meters" like some other site. Smiley_emoticons_stumm
we have LC's built-in never-fail bullshit detector. Police
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(03-16-2011, 07:43 PM)NightOwl Wrote: I
(03-16-2011, 07:32 PM)Adub Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 06:35 PM)onefortheroad Wrote:
(03-16-2011, 06:06 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Nina thanks! BA has a totally new Facebook page that she started - she has abandoned the old page pretty much last post on it was Valentines Day. On her new FB page she doesn't have TW as a friend - however I'm sure Tiff has BA old page on hers. Crazy LOL!

Another person she no longer has as a friend is the guy who was in the pics with Lisa's sister and also in the pics TW posted on her own page just after the murders, the ones with VD & BA.

That guy started a new fb, just like BA did.

I think your meaning JB? Think he moved to another state NC.
JB has a clean as a whistle record.

Yes, yes, and I've found nothing either. Looks like a nice family. But the fb wall photo on his new page is not so nice. Pointing a rather large gun right at the camera.
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(03-16-2011, 07:50 PM)mamabear Wrote: Lol, you guys are way off. I personally know Smooth Criminal, and they are not Tiffany, nor do they even know Tiffany. I was speaking to them about this site, and they were offended that we all were trash talking this Tiffany, and they wanted to speak for her. They are not a criminal by any means, lol. Just a nosy, snoopy old coot.

So nice of you to speak for Criminal who wants to speak for Tiffany Smiley_emoticons_biggrin Has Criminal read the 900 pages of this thread? Maybe if they had, they would understand why many of us mention Tiffany. You really can't argue with me about the reputation she has when you see what has come from her OWN mouth. Personally, I only trash talk people who present themselves as trash.
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Can someone help me find that post by someone said that Z was calling her/his mom that night asking for money?
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(03-16-2011, 07:32 PM)Adub Wrote: That guy started a new fb, just like BA did.

This is the only page I've seen for him, so I wasn't aware of that.
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(03-16-2011, 07:56 PM)Nina Wrote: Can someone help me find that post by someone said that Z was calling her/his mom that night asking for money?

post 62 page 5 by Unknown
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(03-16-2011, 07:52 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: btw...Mock does not have "hinky meters" like some other site. Smiley_emoticons_stumm
we have LC's built-in never-fail bullshit detector. Police
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yeah i do think i heard it somewhere else. wont bring it up againSmiley_emoticons_stumm
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(03-16-2011, 07:56 PM)Nina Wrote: Can someone help me find that post by someone said that Z was calling her/his mom that night asking for money?

It's on page 3, post 29, by Unknown.
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