To truth be told .. How can you say we are witnessing the real Maytee. We are witnessing a mother whos son was murdered and found by her husband. This is the only Maytee we know. The one after the fact.
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Don't be so nieve...hasn't it ever crossed your mind that it is very strange that out of all of the people in the world to find Johnny and Lisa it just happens to be Johnny's parents? Go back and listen to the 9-11 tapes because they are extemely important. From the very first call, Maytee "Knew!" something. The second call she uses the word "kidnap"...which was 2 hours before they were found. This woman knows more than she is telling police and we all know it.
Yes she is probably grieving...but the word "mother" I don't really know if that fits her. Johnny never had a chance with her in his life and if John Sr is smart he would pack up and get away from her before it's too late for him as well, and take the two other kids as well.

Look if someone thought I had something to do with the death of their child, spouse, loved one whoever i would not be bantering back and forth calling the grieving person crazy and telling them to just "kill themself and get it over with" I would be defending myself and trying to do what ever i could do to help with the case.

(03-17-2011, 12:12 AM)concerned Wrote: Maybe Maytee is taunting them. Trying to get them to get so pissed they say something out of anger. There could be a motive to her behavior. Let me think a minute ... If I thought I knew who killed my child how would I get them to screw up? Its obvious there was alot of rage with the crime....How do you get a person to show rage... piss them off.

Operative word, thought...when a crime occurs it's in the hands LE, like it or not. I can somewhat relate as I had a friend murderd, and belive me the good, bad, an ugly came out...but in no way, shape, or form would the friends or family members take the law into their own hands, no matter how hard it was, just knowing there that there could be that 1% chance it could jeopardize the case...and believe me it was the hardest thing to go through, so I completely empathize with both families, but for God's sake, let LE do their job and justice will prevail.

Apologize for the typos, been a long day but this has really struck cord with me...

If I were a mother who got a call from someone like she did. A call that came a while after the fact that something was wrong. Went over to the house with LE and the car was there and noone answered the phones and 911 didnt ever get called till after she got the call ( about two hours ) I would be flipping out to. All her worst fears were probably going thru her mind. It is human nature. She also probably said things out of the oridinary to make police take notice in anyway to get them to do something, anything to get an answer. You know sometimes when mu daughter doesnt answer when she is suspose to I think something must be wrong and have said that before. I have even said "something is not right". this is not out of the ordinary for a parent.

(03-16-2011, 10:19 PM)Nina Wrote: Justice WILL:

JOW: Hey maytee, dnt let nobdy try and intimidate yu! If anybody wanna fuck wit yu them bitches will die. I've sat back n kept my mouth shut about everything bt I refuse to any long.. this bitch tiffany has some nerve comin on a page dedicated to johnny trying to disrespect yu! I mean who the fuck does she think she is! Bitch jus stay ghost lik u been doin, hiding behind a computer screen. I love u with all my heart maytee n I promise yu these low lives will gt whts coming to thm! I got cha back momma dnt sweat it! Love u! RIH JOHHNY N LISA

RIP Johnny I love u jaz thank you mama they wont stop tormenting me ive had to put a tap on my phone too omg rest in heaven johnny n lisa and yes your right mama noone gets away with murder god and law enforcement makes sure they all have one way ticket to deathrow n hell. I love you ;,,,(((
23 minutes ago

AG: hahahahahahahahahah r u serious? i promise u we be out here everyday n I DONT BARR SHIT OUT HERE PERIODDDD....so cmonnn wit that killin jasmine whoever u r hahahah them bitches will die....fuckin hilarioussss

AG: u can ban me from this one too jus wnated it to be known we dont hide from no1 perioddddd n i dare u to try meeee

AG: a tap on ur phone...dont no1 call u jus like that mysterious call i made to ur house in the middle of the night tellin u i was gone rob jophnny but ive met u 1 time in my life so now u know my voice? bitch u r crazy foreal

AG: u must love all the publicity ur gettn for ur son passing way.....ur pathetic foreal....aren't snitches suppose to stay in the shadows?

RIP Johnny Copied n pasted aaron and forward your threats to the police keep going your just short of a prison cell as it is

RIP Johnny Deathrow lucasville awaits all involved and johnny n lisas n donald spirit will not let none of you rest

AG: hahah donaklds spirit...u fuckin retarded azz bitch i was on house arrest when donald was killed n i dont care what u have copied n pasted....i am far from a lamen when it comes to the law so please run that watered down azz game on ther next man cuz i aint the one bitch

RIP Johnny Spirits haunt you night and day they will never leave you alone

AG: n i havent made a threat to u n my mamas the police n shes readin this so i dont need a copy n paste cuz i have made no threat to u and urs at all.....all i said is cmmon wit the killing because ur PUPPET said "them bitches will die" if im not mistaken

JOW: man u dnt u scare shit over her mr A..WHO EVER THE FUCK U R.. SHOULDN'T U BE KNOCKN UP YU dead bestfriends babymomma..lol n best believe u gone wats comin to u, u and yur so calld faithful gf.. don't address me at all bra cuz u dnt wht the fuck u cn gt whts comin to u pussy ass bitch

AG: hashahahah how can ur sons spirit haunt me if he feared me when he was alive? did he grow a pair in his casket? no disrespect but ur briongin all this on to urself by throwing even more dirt on my name.....

JOW: And call johnnys mom a bitch again u ugly ass piece of shit! U and yo pregnant bitch tlk real smooth behind a computer screen.. its funny u hoes ain't came out the shadows PUSSY ASS BITCHES

RIP JOhnny He never feared you but for talkin about my son i hope you your fetus and baby momma die the slowest worst death ever rot in hell demon go kill yourself and do society a favor and yes tgey will haunt you every sec of everyday

AG: do me a favor and have some1 take my life please......ill spit in the devils face for even accepting ur pitiful soul to keep

RIP JOhnny All their spirits will torment you and haunt you every second of everyday evil demons

RIP JOhnny Do the world a favor and kill yourself please

AG: [size=x-large]hahahaha no he wont and anybody that runs around spreadin rumors saying some1 is going to rob them and continuosly ask " AP isn't there is he" is a coward atleast thats how i feel.....[/size]n oh what u dont have any curses to cast on me n mines t...oday?n i dont care about dying u fuckin loser.,.....as i said before " in the event of my demise, when my heart beats no more, i know i will die for a cause or a belief that i lived for" so yea i dont fear dying cause i know i will be buried a G cause i aint never sold my soul to the devil so yea miss me wit the bullshitSee More

AG: hahahahah and earlier did u threaten me wit a jail cell? hahaha u got the wrong person......ur talkin bout u n urs stupidddddd

AG: im done wit u doe....chewed u up n spat u out stupiddddd.....u dont like the taste of ur own medicine right? taste like ass huh.....goblin and witch azz

RIP JOhnny Your already buried as a coward you pathetic excuse for human life lucasville awaits you deathrow calls your name and your evil jealousy will eat you alive.... Stop talking about my son hes in heaven with lisa unlike you demon your going to hell

RIP JOhnny Spirits will haunt you till you kill yourself donald johnny n lisa

JOW:
And to comment on wht I said: All tht were invovled in the death of johnny n lisa "will die".. I do believev the state is seeking the death penalty for ALL those invovled so its seems as if my comments scaared some1 didn't it??? Hmmmm smell lik a bit of guilt n fear don't u think! Lol I am the police so best believe I knw wht comments I mke I can bac up! So yea missed me wit tht one!
about a minute ago

I didn't know that maytee and ag knew each other
he said they met once before~ when?

(03-17-2011, 12:20 AM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-17-2011, 12:19 AM)concerned Wrote:

(03-17-2011, 12:14 AM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-17-2011, 12:12 AM)concerned Wrote: Maybe Maytee is taunting them. Trying to get them to get so pissed they say something out of anger. There could be a motive to her behavior. Let me think a minute ... If I thought I knew who killed my child how would I get them to screw up? Its obvious there was alot of rage with the crime....How do you get a person to show rage... piss them off.

yah but she has taunted others that HAVE NOTHING to do with the case......just sayin IDK

agreed but I think she is venting

I CAN TOTALLY understand that but she goes over board! Thats all Im sayin

I know were you are coming from I am just looking at a person who has had the worst parents nightmare happen, They lose it. Do you have children?

(03-17-2011, 12:22 AM)concerned Wrote: Look if someone thought I had something to do with the death of their child, spouse, loved one whoever i would not be bantering back and forth calling the grieving person crazy and telling them to just "kill themself and get it over with" I would be defending myself and trying to "do what ever i could do to help with the case".

"do what ever i could do to help with the case" You are right on there. If she has nothing to hide and is completely innocent then she should be out keeping the story alive anyway possible. Calling America's Most Wanted, Nancy Grace, and even keep badgering local news to keep the story alive and fresh. Nancy Gracy and Jane Velez-Mitchell probably gave up interest on the story after seeing her behavior on JVM. If it were me I would be camping out in front of the safety building with signs and demanding justice or at least another press conference from Detectives. Meeting with the mayor, chief of Police, doing what ever it took and I would be cooperative with cops and not with hold information that could be jeopardizing to the case.
"do what ever i could do to help with the case"

(03-17-2011, 12:21 AM)truth be told Wrote: To truth be told .. How can you say we are witnessing the real Maytee. We are witnessing a mother whos son was murdered and found by her husband. This is the only Maytee we know. The one after the fact.

Don't be so nieve...hasn't it ever crossed your mind that it is very strange that out of all of the people in the world to find Johnny and Lisa it just happens to be Johnny's parents? Go back and listen to the 9-11 tapes because they are extemely important. From the very first call, Maytee "Knew!" something. The second call she uses the word "kidnap"...which was 2 hours before they were found. This woman knows more than she is telling police and we all know it.
Yes she is probably grieving...but the word "mother" I don't really know if that fits her. Johnny never had a chance with her in his life and if John Sr is smart he would pack up and get away from her before it's too late for him as well, and take the two other kids as well.
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Easily explained IMO. In the first call, Maytee knew something was seriously wrong because she'd been told about the phone call and supposed conversation with her son 2 hours earlier and nobody had been able to reach him or Lisa since. The lack of response from both kids, combined with what TW told her, caused panic.

When LE did the welfare check and didn't find them at the house, she might have jumped to the conclusion they'd been kidnapped after what TW said she'd heard Johnny say.

However, I do agree it's very strange that it was Johnny's parents who found the bodies, and I'm not convinced that it wasn't part of the plan for the Clarkes to find them. AP has been pretty scathing and insistent about Maytee being a 'snitch', and maybe the murders were a twisted way to punish her or her family. Tiff pretty much manipulated the family's discovery by offering to take John Sr. to the house.

(03-17-2011, 12:31 AM)concerned Wrote: If I were a mother who got a call from someone like she did. A call that came a while after the fact that something was wrong. Went over to the house with LE and the car was there and noone answered the phones and 911 didnt ever get called till after she got the call ( about two hours ) I would be flipping out to. All her worst fears were probably going thru her mind. It is human nature. She also probably said things out of the oridinary to make police take notice in anyway to get them to do something, anything to get an answer. You know sometimes when mu daughter doesnt answer when she is suspose to I think something must be wrong and have said that before. I have even said "something is not right". this is not out of the ordinary for a parent.

Agree 100%. As I've said before, calling a friend's parents (especially young 20-somethings) in the middle of the night would be kind of a last resort. If ANY of my son's friends called me in the middle of the night suggesting my son might be in trouble I would immediately panic - I would fear the worst right away. And lets face it, she loves her son but Maytee knows Johnny had been in trouble with the law and so had his friends. I'm sure she didn't think he was wrapped up in a game of Scrabble somewhere - she thought "uh oh, he must be in trouble" - same as MANY parents would. She had met TW and AG previously so one of THEM calling her in the middle of the night had to set her heart pounding "out of her chest"........

(03-17-2011, 12:21 AM)truth be told Wrote: Don't be so nieve...hasn't it ever crossed your mind that it is very strange that out of all of the people in the world to find Johnny and Lisa it just happens to be Johnny's parents? Go back and listen to the 9-11 tapes because they are extemely important. From the very first call, Maytee "Knew!" something. The second call she uses the word "kidnap"...which was 2 hours before they were found. This woman knows more than she is telling police and we all know it.
Yes she is probably grieving...but the word "mother" I don't really know if that fits her. Johnny never had a chance with her in his life and if John Sr is smart he would pack up and get away from her before it's too late for him as well, and take the two other kids as well.

No it doesn't cross my mind as ODD that Maytee & John Sr found Johnny & Lisa considering they called LE out to the Straubs house how many times (Twice?) before they took it upon themselves to kick in the door after peering in the window. It would be ODD if they never called LE & went out there & kicked in the door immediatly. & even then.... I wouldn't see it as completely crazy. Some of you people are sooooo fucking caught up in this "Maytee KNEW something from the 9-11 tapes!!!" Well no fucking shit she knew something, she got a phone call from 2 people in the middle of the night (Sharita & Tiffany) telling her about some sketchy phone call & the inability to contact her son by phone or by knocking on the door/ringing the door bell at the Straubs. You don't think you'd be concerned by the story TW told & the inability to make contact? I would! So NO we don't all know that she knows more than she's telling the police. I just think there are certain people on here & I guess you happen to be one of them who are bound & determined for whatever reason to believe that Maytee had some part in her sons murder. However, I've asked this many many times on this thread.... give me a motive! PLEASE! Give me a fucking motive for Maytee being involved in her sons murder & no one, to this day has been able to do it & not just do it, but give me a LOGICAL motive.

I watched one of the crime shows on A&E or discovery channel the other day. A serial killer in Washington or Oregon State was Killing prostitutes for quite a while. It came to a point where as he killed more he learned how to cover his tracks, He would shot them in the head and after a while he started putting a bag with a smiley face over there head as if to move them to their dumping ground he would not get blood on his vehicle. This crime ended up being solved by the police by one and I mean one red fiber found on one of the victims that they ended up matching to a red corvette. The man was caught. He was a well respected helicopter pilot that lived in the suburbs with a wife and kids. My point is. If a single red fiber caught a serial killer I have no doubt this will be solved

(03-17-2011, 12:11 AM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-17-2011, 12:07 AM)concerned Wrote:

(03-17-2011, 12:01 AM)JsMom Wrote:

(03-16-2011, 11:57 PM)curious Wrote:

(03-16-2011, 11:48 PM)JsMom Wrote: I wouldnt be online I tell u that shit right now!

Have you all lost your ever-lasting minds??? I don't care if the Easter bunny committed the crime, you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT jeopardize a case...PERIOD! She should be out right ashamed of herself and her friends and family too for not putting a stop to this madness!!!!

You talking about Maytee again? lol

What Im sayin is I wouldnt jeopardize a case if it was MY SON by even getting online! The computer would be the last damn thing on my mind!!!!

I dont see her as jeopardizing the case. She dont know shit. She is talkingabout what she thinks. She dont have details. LEdont tell family. She has never stated LE told her what they have.

Im not sayin she did but She could! I just would NOT be online for any reason if this just happened to my son!

You are online talking about a murder of someone elses son. Your involved with this so are you sure you wouldnt be ?

(03-17-2011, 12:31 AM)concerned Wrote: If I were a mother who got a call from someone like she did. A call that came a while after the fact that something was wrong. Went over to the house with LE and the car was there and noone answered the phones and 911 didnt ever get called till after she got the call ( about two hours ) I would be flipping out to. All her worst fears were probably going thru her mind. It is human nature. She also probably said things out of the oridinary to make police take notice in anyway to get them to do something, anything to get an answer. You know sometimes when mu daughter doesnt answer when she is suspose to I think something must be wrong and have said that before. I have even said "something is not right". this is not out of the ordinary for a parent.

I'm sorry but we'll have to agree to disagree. If I found/witnessed/committed such a henious act the ONLY thing i would state to 911 is there are two people dead, we need help now. NEVER could I imagine finding my out that my son dead ir anyone for that matter was dead/murdered and state something to the effect of..."why didn't they just shoot them..." Appalling, no excuse in my book, none.

I totally agree. We have no way of knowing that she isnt doing that though either...

(03-17-2011, 12:50 AM)curious Wrote: why didn't they just shoot them..." Appalling, no excuse in my book, none.[/color]

Pretty sure that when she said that she meant, why did you have to make them suffer. Not to get graphic but putting a bullet in someones head is alot faster than putting a bag over someones head & no one whose lost a love one wants to think of their loved one suffering. My dad was shot in the chest & my 1^st question was how quick did he die.... did he suffer. That is a haunting thought. It makes the grieving soooo much worse. I know this 1^st hand. Of course you can twist this into something nefarious if you want to, but I don't at all.

(03-16-2011, 11:19 PM)concerned Wrote: Who out there has kids? Does anyone really know how they would react in this situation?

I have children. Three young adults that have beat tremendous odds.

For all of their lives, with every misstep and every trauma, I have had regret. I have worried how I might have contributed to their pain or misguided them in some way. I have replayed how I had raised them, who and what I had exposed them to, when I had been inattentive or failed to protect them. I have examined the choices I have made and how my choices may have affected them.

But no, none of my children have been murdered. So I don't know how I would react.

Tiffany and her friend are attacking Maytee by repeatedly accusing her of being a "snitch."
Tiffany has actually called Maytee several times an "informant."
A "snitch" is someone who informs Law Enforcement of any knowledge they have of criminal activity by others.
Only criminals or those who consort with criminals consider this to be a bad thing.
The rest of us consider it to be our duty to inform Law Enforcement of criminal activity.
What we consider to be our civic duty, Tiffany and her friend consider to be repugnant activity.
Therefore, neither we nor Law Enforcement can believe Tiffany or her friend when they say that they have no knowledge of who the killers of Johnny and Lisa may be.
Tiffany and/or her friend, by their own use of the terms "snitch" and informant as an insult, may know exactly who the murderers are, or they they may be able to identify persons who do know. But they need to lie and say they know nothing, in order to avoid the label of "snitch."

My recollection is that Tiffany came on Mock and said that she had no knowledge before, during or after of the robbery and the murders.

By what form of convoluted reasoning can any of us, or law enforcement, rely upon that assurance as being truthful, when she and her friend use the terms "snitch" and informant as a pejorative?

(03-17-2011, 12:39 AM)Nina Wrote:

(03-17-2011, 12:31 AM)concerned Wrote: If I were a mother who got a call from someone like she did. A call that came a while after the fact that something was wrong. Went over to the house with LE and the car was there and noone answered the phones and 911 didnt ever get called till after she got the call ( about two hours ) I would be flipping out to. All her worst fears were probably going thru her mind. It is human nature. She also probably said things out of the oridinary to make police take notice in anyway to get them to do something, anything to get an answer. You know sometimes when mu daughter doesnt answer when she is suspose to I think something must be wrong and have said that before. I have even said "something is not right". this is not out of the ordinary for a parent.

Agree 100%. As I've said before, calling a friend's parents (especially young 20-somethings) in the middle of the night would be kind of a last resort. If ANY of my son's friends called me in the middle of the night suggesting my son might be in trouble I would immediately panic - I would fear the worst right away. And lets face it, she loves her son but Maytee knows Johnny had been in trouble with the law and so had his friends. I'm sure she didn't think he was wrapped up in a game of Scrabble somewhere - she thought "uh oh, he must be in trouble" - same as MANY parents would. She had met TW and AG previously so one of THEM calling her in the middle of the night had to set her heart pounding "out of her chest"........

FWIW, I agree 100%

As the saying goes...'it's all in the details'