(04-07-2011, 05:28 PM)Freshbait78 Wrote:

(04-07-2011, 05:24 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: NOTE: Maytee condems TW for waiting to call her upon hearing
Johnny's distress ... yet she waits over an hour to check on Johnny?

Where are you getting that she waited a hour? I'm confused.

Here is the article that explains the LE time schedule.
http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2011/02...ying.print

Here is where it states the time of the third call .... finding the bodies.
the third 911 call came in at 4:00 a.m. (actually 3:50) after they unfortunately found them deceased inside the home. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1...ng.01.html

I was back looking for the night TW came to Mock and read this

(02-18-2011, 03:32 PM)trixie Wrote:

(02-18-2011, 03:28 PM)Jane Wrote:

(02-18-2011, 03:16 PM)JustSayin... Wrote: I find it a little strange that the only thing TW said on F.B. in reference to the murder of her friends was a simple R.I.P. message that morning. How do you not at least mention that you were at the scene or on the phone with JC? I.E. The friend JC was with before he left to pick LS up mentions her shock, and that she never thought when he walked out she would never see him again.

I personally think TW is somewhat use to violence, etc...Her friends were killed. There's no doubt in my mind that TW knew JC was dealing dope. JMO ..... It's possible she didn't want to get into details, of her being on the phone w/JC, that night, out of fear ??

I think if she was fearful, her page would be private.

So who's private now?! I can think of a few. VD being one of the latest. And MY. BA is being all retrospective on her new page. Speaking of new pages, JB is a mystery to me. What is it with these boys with no shirts on? Like the ex BD?

(04-07-2011, 05:34 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: Here is where it states the time of the third call .... finding the bodies.
the third 911 call came in at 4:00 a.m. (actually 3:50) after they unfortunately found them deceased inside the home. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1...ng.01.html

OK I got all that.... where is the hour that Maytee waited to get help for her son?

Can someone tell me how to find BD's facebook?

I always found it odd that TW wasnt more in shock. They have all these "peeps" why wasnt she calling them to come over. Something isnt right there especially after what she went thru when her baby daddy was shot and killed. You would think her mindset would have taken her back to the died he died and set her into panic mode? IMO. Also IMO She was jealous of what she thought Lisas family had. Set it up for a robbery putting her DNA all over the place the night before to cover her tracks. Did she commit the murder, nah. Maybe didnt even think that would happen but she is involved in one way or another. She hangs out with thugs and buglars, car thieves...etc. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it is a duck. Funny she likes her percs and so does her people and they found percs in Johnnys system. It all revolves around percs.

Also a comment on the times. Just remember this. Part of the time is going by what Tiffany said when she was "susposedly" on the phone with Johnny. That shows in his phone records. We dont quite know what is the truth on that since she has different stories. For all we know she could have been at the scene and calling his phone for alibi when the crime was taking place. IMO

The person or persons who commited the homicides are a bunch of low life pussies who have to rob ( and couldnt even do that right) . I'm glad they are pussies because that is gonna come in handy when they turn into someones "little bitch" in the pen. LMFAO !!!! Cant wait til they get theirs.. HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT BITCH. I KNOW YOU ARE READING MOCK AND YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED. DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR LAST MEAL IS GONNA BE BEFORE THEY PUT DOWN? PROBABLY MAC N CHEESE LIKE YOUR BABYSITTER MADE SINCE YOUR MOMMA WASNT AROUND!!

What no Mockers that feel the same way? Instead of going over and over about the crime Im telling these murderers(IMO) what I really think. You know they read Mock.. Im letting them know what I really think. No holds barred.

I think that there is tooo much that alot of people know and arent telling... I think everyone in this whole fucked up case is lieing about something! I think Tw had plenty to do with setting this shit up but the way she was raised affects her ability to tell the fucking truth! Who the fuck is pregnant and would go out to pop percs and whatever else that nasty hoe does.. 4 baby daddys at the age of 24-25 is just plain sick!

(04-07-2011, 09:54 PM)pplrcrazy Wrote: I think that there is tooo much that alot of people know and arent telling... I think everyone in this whole fucked up case is lieing about something! I think Tw had plenty to do with setting this shit up but the way she was raised affects her ability to tell the fucking truth! Who the fuck is pregnant and would go out to pop percs and whatever else that nasty hoe does.. 4 baby daddys at the age of 24-25 is just plain sick!

Try and have a little compassion. This is quite normal behavior of someone
who was abused as a child.

AMENDED


Here's my crack at it:

Time line

Unknown Johnny leaves tv viewing party.
Unknown Johnny picks up Lisa.
Unknown Johnny and Lisa arrive at Straubs.
11:00 p.m. Tiffany converses with Lisa.
11:00 p.m. Tiffany converses with Johnny.
12:00 p.m. Tiffany drives to Johnny's house to ring bell and peer in windows.
12:30- 12:50 a.m. Tiffany calls Sherita.
12:50- 1:10 a.m. Tiffany talks to John Sr.
1-1:20 a.m. Tiffany picks up John Sr. (We know this was before the second 911 call.)
1:21 a.m. Maytee calls 911.
1:28 a.m. Police arrive on scene. Number of cars? Stay how long?--- 4 units, stayed for approx 11 minutes
1:30 a.m. Tiffany and John Sr. arrive at Straubs'.
1:39 a.m. Police depart from the Straub residence
2:06 a.m. Maytee makes second call to 911. (Is she in the car?) --- Yes she is in the car.
2:10 a.m. Maytee arrives at Straubs'.
2:10 a.m. Police arrive at Straubs'. Stay how long? How many cars? 2 units, stay approx 36 minutes
2:46 a.m. Police depart from the Straub residence
Unknown Tiffany departs Straubs'.
Unknown Maytee and John Sr. depart Straubs'.
Unknown Maytee and John Sr. return to Straubs'.
Unknown Maytee and John Sr. break in door and find kids.
3:50 a.m. Maytee and John Clarke Sr. call 911 and state that they have kicked in door and kids are cold
Unknown Police arrive at death scene.
Unknown Detectives arrive at death scene.
Unknown Television interviews parents outside the Straub home.


Yellow = Fact
Blue = my guess

Freshbait...good work. We'll get there yet.

(04-07-2011, 10:19 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: Freshbait...good work. We'll get there yet.

Thanks for the links to the Blade articles. It helped to fill in the missing pieces where LE was concerned

How about tw having an additional phone, aka burner phone you get at walmart that is not traceable, using that to make additional calls to others in on this inside job!

(04-07-2011, 10:19 PM)WolfHouse Wrote: Freshbait...good work. We'll get there yet.

very well done! Freshbait78

(04-07-2011, 10:04 PM)WolfHouse Wrote:

(04-07-2011, 09:54 PM)pplrcrazy Wrote: I think that there is tooo much that alot of people know and arent telling... I think everyone in this whole fucked up case is lieing about something! I think Tw had plenty to do with setting this shit up but the way she was raised affects her ability to tell the fucking truth! Who the fuck is pregnant and would go out to pop percs and whatever else that nasty hoe does.. 4 baby daddys at the age of 24-25 is just plain sick!

Try and have a little compassion. This is quite normal behavior of someone
who was abused as a child.

Im not going to have compasion at all.. She is a grown ass women and makes her own choices and knows right from wrong at the end of the day. She should know how to be a mother and take care of her children and not take drugs while pregnant and out of those 4 kids she has not on in her custody except the one in her womb and we will see how that goes! She chose to make the mistakes she has made and not to mention she was already rumored to be involved in the death of the one childs father DC... COme on now.. are you going to say have compassion if she is involved in Johnny and Lisa's death? I find it very funny that she was involved in this and just about a yr ago her childs father was killed in a HOME INVASION... Come on now.. These are the kinds of people she likes to put in her life and around her kids?? NOt me!

(04-07-2011, 10:43 PM)pplrcrazy Wrote:

(04-07-2011, 10:04 PM)WolfHouse Wrote:

Try and have a little compassion. This is quite normal behavior of someone
who was abused as a child.

Sarcasm::the humor of the intelligent.

(04-07-2011, 10:35 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: How about tw having an additional phone, aka burner phone you get at walmart that is not traceable, using that to make additional calls to others in on this inside job!

I think that's possible

Detectives can't trace something they don't know about now can they. Also JC is known to dabble in the weapons from what I've heard, just want to know if had his gun on him that night. That's probally the night he needed it most.

(04-07-2011, 10:56 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: Detectives can't trace something they don't know about now can they. Also JC is known to dabble in the weapons from what I've heard, just want to know if had his gun on him that night. That's probally the night he needed it most.

If it was there, either the perps or someone who found him
has it now.