Seemed like bungling buffoon man made some gains today. He doesn't seem to care how foolish or inept he looks, always having opposing objections sustained. Maybe that's just his style.

no. he's just incompetent.
i don't think he gained anything today. people in court say the jury was bored as hell and that they smirk when Judge has to (frequently) chastise baez. the science is a bore and the jury is getting tired already. baez is simply going to nit-pick the science until they all fall asleep. maybe that's his trial strategy.


jose baez (to Det. Yuri Melich) "Did you ask casey anthony if she ever committed suicide?"

Jesus Christ I hate agreeing with heraldo, this case will be over turned on appeal if she is found guilty.

The defence is going to use civil rights as an affirmative defence and they will win.

Pretty much why they don't give a shit right now.

geraldo "capone's vault" rivera is baez' butt-buddy.

he needs to go hang out in Key West and wait for a hurricane.

he and his gang of wingnuts (i used to respect Dershowitz, but i know his agenda) are all dead wrong about that miranda crap, ¹⁄₁₀ of 1% of cases will be overturned on that shit, and if that's bozo's ace in the hole...well hello LWOP. she'll be in prison for many years before it even gets to an appeal. not very good strategy for one's client to hope for an appeal at some future date. "ok i am going to throw the case in chief and you can sweat in prison as a convicted murderer, possibly on death row, until maybe i get a hearing on appeal". hahahahahaha

Judge Perry is no fool, he will not be overturned on any error.
he held a hearing on this issue/on a motion to suppress and he has ruled...correctly. here:

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/27242107/detail.html


Dick, i think it's a very touching tribute to OP that you always spell defense the British way: defence.

I just can't believe that they didn't give Casey a better look for court.Maybe a haircut and style and a pants suit or dress.She looks like a mental patient with her hair tide so far back.I have seen other cases and the men are trimmed of facial hair and wore at least a dress shirt.Is this Baez' first case or what.Just some Sunday steam I still think she is guilty.She also seems to flirt with baez and Mason alot i'm talking body language.

here are some photos of location of Caylee's remains. you can see in one how close it was to the house(s). click photos to enlarge.

since it's sunday and no court, here's a lengthy but interesting bio on baez:

Orlando Sentinel 2009/TCPalm

ORLANDO — His defense of a young mother charged with killing her toddler has transformed José Ángel Baez into one of the best-known lawyers in America.

For eight years after he graduated from law school, however, the board that screens prospective attorneys in Florida would not let him practice law. The Florida Supreme Court agreed with the decision, issuing an order in 2000 that cataloged unpaid bills, extravagant spending and other "financial irresponsibility" up to that time. Justices reserved their strongest condemnation for his failure to stay current on support payments for his only child.

His overall behavior, they wrote, showed "a total lack of respect for the rights of others and a total lack of respect for the legal system, which is absolutely inconsistent with the character and fitness qualities required of those seeking to be afforded the highest position of trust and confidence recognized by our system of law."

He worked instead as a paralegal for the Miami-Dade public defender and then taught Internet research to lawyers and started four business ventures, including two bikini companies. Before Florida Bar officials admitted him in 2005, he had to demonstrate that he had rehabilitated himself.

Today, as lead defense attorney for Casey Anthony — the Orange County woman charged with killing her 2-year-old daughter— 40-year-old Baez has become the sort of instant celebrity monitored by TV, newspapers, tabloids and the Internet.

He is a Bar member in good standing, his office spokeswoman reminded the Orlando Sentinel in a prepared statement. She also questioned the motives behind the newspaper story.

"Based on your questions and actions," she wrote, "this profile you are writing has nothing to do with Jose Baez's representation of Casey Anthony and appears to be a sensationalist persecution of a Hispanic lawyer who has been targeted by a newspaper lucky to find itself at the center of a national story."

The Supreme Court order, which the Sentinel found in public records, shows that nearly a decade ago, he could not satisfy the character and fitness standards Florida requires of prospective lawyers.

It identifies Baez by his initials, J.A.B. — standard procedure in cases in which prospective lawyers challenge their denial of a law license at the state's highest court. Using other public records and interviews, the Sentinel matched many details in the document to Baez, however.

For instance, the lawyer listed as representing J.A.B. was Manuel Alvarez, an attorney with the Miami-Dade Public Defender's Office, where Baez worked at the time.

The office confirmed that Alvarez helped Baez with his Bar application. Supreme Court records show J.A.B.'s is the only case involving the Bar that Alvarez has handled in the state's highest court.

Alvarez would not comment, but Executive Assistant Public Defender Rory S. Stein said that Alvarez wrote a legal brief on behalf of Baez in 1998, the year after he graduated from law school. Stein called it "a friendly gesture" to a staff member who needed help with his lawyer application.

In an interview last year, Baez described his eight years out of law as a personal choice, saying he could earn more money in other fields. He would not be interviewed for this story but commented on the court order in the statement issued through Marti Mackenzie, his office spokeswoman:

"The ruling you claim that was made about a lawyer with the initials J.A.B. has nothing to do with Mr. Baez's current status as a member in good standing with The Florida Bar. Many people, including lawyers, have monetary misunderstandings, disputes and child support disagreements that have no effect on their ability to represent clients."

From Navy to law school

Born in Puerto Rico in 1969, Baez told reporters he grew up in the Bronx and South Florida with his mother, a single parent. He dropped out of Homestead High School in ninth grade.

He married at 17, became a father, earned a GED diploma and joined the Navy in 1986.

According to his résumé, Baez spent three years assigned to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in Norfolk, Va., trained as an intelligence analyst with what he described as a "Cosmic Top Secret" security clearance.

He left active duty in May 1989 as a yeoman seaman, a rank associated with administrative duties, and then served in the U.S. Navy Reserve, according to the National Archives and Records Administration.

In the next six years, Baez divorced, attended Miami-Dade Community College and graduated from Florida State University. A black belt in tae kwon do, Baez competed with the karate, pistol and crime-scene team from FSU's chapter of Lambda Alpha Epsilon, a fraternity of criminology majors.

"We probably ranked first overall in every category in every national competition," said Ken Koehler, the fraternity's former sergeant-at-arms. "José was more or less the primary instructor. ... We did academic testing as well, and he did pretty good with that, too."

After graduating in 1997 from St. Thomas University School of Law in Miami, Baez applied to become a lawyer. In April 1998, he was called before the Florida Board of Bar Examiners, which screens prospective lawyers. The later Supreme Court order outlined how this review uncovered the debts and other problems that concerned the Bar examiners.

That order is the only public record of the review, which is designed to protect the public and safeguard the judicial system. The Bar examiners have responsibility for ensuring that all lawyer applicants meet Florida's requirements for character and fitness, education and technical competence, according to Supreme Court rules.

The process is not open to the public, except when a candidate who is turned down asks the Supreme Court to review the decision. The court identifies the rejected applicant only by his or her initials when its findings are released.

Court critical of finances

According to the Supreme Court summary of the case, the Board of Bar Examiners filed formal allegations against J.A.B. in September 1998. In addition to unpaid child support, a personal bankruptcy and default on a student loan, the investigators said he left out parts of his history, including that he wrote a bad check and entered a pretrial program to avoid conviction.

Investigators also found fault with J.A.B.'s participation in a foreign-studies program in summer 1995 and his leasing of a Mazda Miata in Miami — unnecessary expenses when he owed money to others, they said.

After a formal hearing, the board found the allegations proven and recommended that he not be admitted to the Bar.

"Additionally, the Board found that J.A.B.'s misrepresentations and lack of candor in his answers to the specifications and during his formal hearing testimony were further grounds for disqualification," the Supreme Court wrote.

Many details in the order can be confirmed in public records for José Baez:

•Miami-Dade Circuit Court records show that Baez failed repeatedly to pay his $200-a-month child support after his 1993 divorce. The sum owed reached $12,000 by 2004. Asked recently about this, Baez said through his spokeswoman that he and his ex-wife have resolved their child-support issues. Like J.A.B., Baez's only child is a daughter.

•Baez declared bankruptcy in September 1990, the same month and year cited for J.A.B. The records on Baez are filed with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, where he lived during and after his service in the Navy.

•The Virginia Education Loan Authority filed liens against Baez for $4,336 in unpaid loans in 1995, the same year the Supreme Court says J.A.B defaulted on his student loan.

•Baez leased a Mazda Miata in 1998, just as J.A.B did. The Sentinel obtained a copy of his Progressive Express insurance card for the vehicle, which Baez had submitted to the Public Defender's Office in Miami. Files from the State Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles show the car was leased.

In April 1998 — the same month that the Bar examiners held their investigative hearing into J.A.B.'s qualifications as a lawyer — the Miami-Dade Public Defender's Office reassigned José Ángel Baez to tasks that did not require a law degree.

Baez spent the next 16 months interviewing witnesses and investigating cases to compensate the office for its investment in his preparation to be a lawyer, records show. He resigned in September 1999.

The following year, in June 2000, the Supreme Court issued its findings in case No. SC95855, Florida Board of Bar Examiners RE: J.A.B.: "Accordingly, we approve the Board's recommendation that J.A.B. not be admitted to the Florida Bar at this time."

Baez tries bikini business

Turned down by the Bar, Baez started a series of businesses.

They included Bon Bon Bikinis and Brazilian-Bikinis.Com to sell bathing suits, corporate records show. He also applied for a real-estate license and created two companies selling computer know-how: LawStudentWebsites.Com and LawyerConcepts.

From 2000 to 2005, according to his spokeswoman, Baez worked for LexisNexis, the information company. In an interview last year, he said he taught lawyers and judges to research cases using the Internet and made twice as much as he could practicing law.

Records show that a court in Miami docked $550 a month from his LexisNexis paycheck in 2004 to pay child support to his first wife.

An applicant denied admission to the Bar can reapply after two years or other such period set by the Bar examiners. The application must include a "written statement describing the scope and character of the applicant's evidence of rehabilitation," according to Supreme Court rules.

The court requires them to produce "clear and convincing evidence of rehabilitation," such as strict compliance with judicial or administrative orders, assurances to "conduct one's self in an exemplary manner" and demonstrations of excellent character, good reputation for professional ability and "positive action" in their occupation, religion or community or civic service.

Baez launched two community-service ventures during his time away from the law.

In 2001, according to state records, Baez created a nonprofit group, the Miami Domestic Violence Project. It dissolved two years later. Mackenzie, Baez's office spokeswoman, said the project disbanded because another group with an almost identical purpose and name already existed.

In 2004, Baez created another nonprofit in Miami, Miracles for Children Foundation Corp., according to state records. It continued until Sept. 16, 2005.

The following week, Sept. 22, Baez was admitted to practice law. Because the admission process for lawyers is not public, there is no way to know what effect these nonprofit groups had on the Bar's action.

I can't wait till the hobag loses and then turns on Bozo and claims all kinds of "horrible" things done to her by him when the were alone at his office prepping for the case, etc.! Wonder if he's even thought what she may claim he's done to her other than ineffective counsel? She's destroyed the lives of everyone around her and I bet he's next in line! Can't wait cause he deserves it!!!

(06-05-2011, 10:14 AM)melissab Wrote: Can't wait cause he deserves it!!!

Could you elaborate on that? Why does he deserve it? Because he took her on as a client? Because he's ineffective as counsel? Because his demeanor is that of an asshole? Because he accused her dad of sexually molesting her? Why exactly does he deserve to have his life destroyed?

(06-05-2011, 10:14 AM)melissab Wrote: I can't wait till the hobag loses and then turns on Bozo and claims all kinds of "horrible" things done to her by him when the were alone at his office prepping for the case, etc.!

Yeah . . . and he'll parade the fact that she is a liar . . . due to HIS sexual abuse!

I wonder if George and Lee will support his theory?

hahahaha she probably has some of his...ewwww...DNA saved on her jeans.


i do think she'll turn on him post-conviction. (someone else would have to handle the automatic appeals). why wouldn't she if she turned on her own family? he's not going to be exempt from the vicious wrath of casey and her imaginary friends.
further, i think he's going to be sued by a lot of people. roy kronk, Tim Miller from Texas Equusearch, possibly george, cindy and lee, et al. they may not win due to his immunity in the courtroom, but he may end up with many complaints to the Bar that he'll have to defend.

that's all down the road however.

Mr. inept is fucking the prosecution from all sides.

as soon as they "TOOK" CA into the room at the theme park and started questioning her they fucked themselves ,she was not free to leave no where on the tape did they tell her she did not have to answer any of their questions, they are fucked..

remember the question, "where is caylee"? that is one of a few that will put a big redX on any conviction on appeal.

did you read the Judge's opinion Dick? they told her the door was open/unlocked. period. and they were still asking about imaginanny who was their suspect. she was NOT in custody. the door was shut for privacy, and that was made clear to her. SHE dragged them around Universal. then after that voluntarily got in a cruiser to look for computer/booking photos of zanny. and even if she were in custody, it's not enough to overturn a conviction in this case. the test is whether it "would have changed the verdict". (assuming a guilty verdict)

After reading bozo's bio LC, it seems Casey had almost as colorful life as he did when he was younger. Two Peas in a pod, they deserve each other!

(06-05-2011, 04:11 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Mr. inept is fucking the prosecution from all sides.

It was a missing child investigation. And Casey, as the mother and the last person to see Caylee, was providing information. Casey could have turned the tables at anytime and stfu (or told the truth). Casey was lying, and lying, and lying. Which is not a point for the defense. For what reason should Casey have been mirandized? Geez she was helping to find her daughter.

My questions is....after CA is found guilty, and she turns on Bozo...how do you think her family will react? Do you think George and Cindy will be behind her in her efforts to go after Bozo and fight for her life? Or do they sit back and watch?

LC, I clicked on the pics. Thank you very much for them. The housing estate, is that were Casey/Caylee lived? Which house, is it close to the crime scene?

(06-06-2011, 07:35 AM)sdtay Wrote: My questions is....after CA is found guilty, and she turns on Bozo...how do you think her family will react? Do you think George and Cindy will be behind her in her efforts to go after Bozo and fight for her life? Or do they sit back and watch?

What I see her doing is telling her family, "I never said that, he made all that up...he had me go along with it". I can see it now, she lies, that is her MO. She will do and say whatever she has to do to get out of the situation she is in, that is obvious. I just can see her crying to her parents and family. I never said that he did. Poor me, I am the victim again!!!

(06-06-2011, 09:39 AM)aussiefriend Wrote: LC, I clicked on the pics. Thank you very much for them. The housing estate, is that were Casey/Caylee lived? Which house, is it close to the crime scene?

yes, as i said in the post, you can see how close. i can't point out the exact house in the aerial view, but it is one very near the site of remains.


to reply to Sdtay, i see george and cindy in line to sue baez. but i also see them trying to get her sentence reduced to LWOP if she is convicted and sent to death row. nobody wants to see their child executed, and they are going to have to rationalize and maintain that she has serious mental health issues. for their own mental health.


on stand now, DR. ARPAD VASS -- State expert witness, forensic anthropologist at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. Said air samples from the trunk of Casey's car smelled of human decomposition.

(06-05-2011, 09:46 PM)Adub Wrote:

(06-05-2011, 04:11 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Mr. inept is fucking the prosecution from all sides.

It was a missing child investigation. And Casey, as the mother and the last person to see Caylee, was providing information. Casey could have turned the tables at anytime and stfu (or told the truth). Casey was lying, and lying, and lying. Which is not a point for the defense. For what reason should Casey have been mirandized? Geez she was helping to find her daughter.

Why do you think the prosecution keeps asking the detectives if CA was under arrest ,was free to leave,free to stop answering questions at any time?

do you think those are normal questions to ask a detective on the stand?

Those questions are to have a record to fight the coming appeal, which they will lose anyway.

The detectives crossed the line between CA being a victim and being a suspect in their questions, they had an obligation to protect their case, as well as CA right to not self incriminate.

CA is on the stand with those tapes, she is testifying against herself.

no matter how badly everyone would like to see her convicted myself included, the detectives made a rookie error at universal studios and the interview they conducted there.

and what the fuck is the having CA raise her hand and swearing to everything being true on the tape? that's some bogus bullshit, and they did it twice on the same day.