Bush did TARP. That has ended well. We have recouped almost all of the 700B in bailouts, plus interest. Obama did the stimulus (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) that cost us over $700B (none can be recouped).

That is a difference that stands out in my mind. Bush lent, Obama gave. The problem is, Obama just gave the money away and there wasn't any recovery AT ALL. Nothing was stimulated. The jobs gained were all federal jobs that cost us money and grow government. The same work is getting done, so I don't see how we needed more federal workers.

Now Obama wants to impose more taxes on banks. Do you think the banks are going to pay that? WE are going to pay that in addition to what the stimulus cost us.

Obama doesn't know what he's doing. The Old Guard had good people to advise them. Obama invited in a bunch of extremists with their own agendas. I don't see what good can come from it for the working class. If you are poor, lazy, or want to stay in this country illegally, Obama is your man. If you work, invest, use a bank, and pay taxes, Obama is gonna fuck ya.

Bush did TARP. That has ended well. We have recouped almost all of the 700B in bailouts, plus interest. Obama did the stimulus (American Recovery and Reinvestment Act) that cost us over $700B (none can be recouped).

That is a difference that stands out in my mind. Bush lent, Obama gave. The problem is, Obama just gave the money away and there wasn't any recovery AT ALL. Nothing was stimulated. The jobs gained were all federal jobs that cost us money and grow government. The same work is getting done, so I don't see how we needed more federal workers.

Now Obama wants to impose more taxes on banks. Do you think the banks are going to pay that? WE are going to pay that in addition to what the stimulus cost us.

Obama doesn't know what he's doing. The Old Guard had good people to advise them. Obama invited in a bunch of extremists with their own agendas. I don't see what good can come from it for the working class. If you are poor, lazy, or want to stay in this country illegally, Obama is your man. If you work, invest, use a bank, and pay taxes, Obama is gonna fuck ya.

After The Civil Rights Act was passed Democrat President Lyndon Johnson praised Republicans for their overwhelming support.

The Republican Party was formed by anti-slavery activists to combat the pro-slavery Democrats

The Ku Klux Klan was formed by radical Democrats who opposed equality for blacks.

In 1935 Democrats defeated an Anti-Lynching Bill supported and put forward by Republicans.

The 1924 Democrat National Convention in New York was host to one of the largest Klan gatherings in American history. Dubbed the “Klanbake convention”, a minority of delegates attempted to condemn the presence of the Klan but was rebuked by the Klan supporting Democrat Majority.

On April 20, 1871 the Republican Congress enacted the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-Affiliated terrorist groups.

Ronald Reagan, a Republican, made history on November 2, 1983 by signing into law Martin Luther King Jr.’s birthday as a National Holiday. This is the first and only Federal Holiday that recognizes a Black American.

Oh yeah the Republicans used to be great, the GOP has seen better days now though.

Is it even a shadow of its former self?

(07-16-2011, 08:02 AM)White Pud Wrote:

(07-16-2011, 05:21 AM)Duchess Wrote:

If you can ask for an apology from everyone that voted for Obama then I guess it's okay if I run around demanding an apology for everyone that voted for that dumbass Bush, matter of fact, when I'm demanding my apology & discover someone did it TWICE, I want my ass kissed & one year of free yard work.

Anyone that voted for Dubya twice owes the whole fucking world an apology.

Agreed. And then they can voluntarily have themselves sterilized. Stupid breeds stupid.

(07-22-2011, 03:30 PM)Mary Wrote: Agreed. And then they can voluntarily have themselves sterilized. Stupid breeds stupid.

Explain why. Because you are basing your opinion on some stupid shit you heard on the news or what your neighbor said.

Don't use the war excuse because we are still there. Doesn't fly for the thinking crew...

I listed sound reasons. Plus my house is worth 65% of what I paid for it. So go ahead and convince me why W was so bad. I bet it's stupid.

You can't claim I'm stupid. So far, I haven't seen any evidence that you aren't.

(07-22-2011, 07:42 PM)Cracker Wrote: Plus my house is worth 65% of what I paid for it.

So? Did you not know that realestate values fluctuate? Did you buy in the midst of a housing bubble? Did you think "investing in realestate" gave you a guaranteed return?

The housing bubble was bursting well before Barack took office. I don't understand your point here.

My home value started plummeting in 2008. Somehow, I can't bring myself to blame Obama for that one. Many professionals noticed that we were in a housing bubble and prices were bound to correct. They did. Whoop de doo. Too bad for those that didn't have the sense to see it coming.

I saw it comming! I am also good with it. Good luck with any second mortgage today, especially if you owe over 60,000.00 People are sooooo stupid.

(07-22-2011, 10:28 PM)username Wrote:

(07-22-2011, 07:42 PM)Cracker Wrote: Plus my house is worth 65% of what I paid for it.

So? Did you not know that realestate values fluctuate? Did you buy in the midst of a housing bubble? Did you think "investing in realestate" gave you a guaranteed return?

The housing bubble was bursting well before Barack took office. I don't understand your point here.

My home value started plummeting in 2008. Somehow, I can't bring myself to blame Obama for that one. Many professionals noticed that we were in a housing bubble and prices were bound to correct. They did. Whoop de doo. Too bad for those that didn't have the sense to see it coming.

You're right. I should have just moved into a Section 8 house when I left the drug addict. Then I could get all kinds of benefits and feel glad we have a socialist in the White House. Or maybe I should have "hung in there" waiting for the market to collapse so I could have bought a repo. Who cares if people shit on the carpets on the way out the door?

WASHINGTON (AP) — The wealth gaps between whites and minorities have grown to their widest levels in a quarter-century. The recession and uneven recovery have erased decades of minority gains, leaving whites on average with 20 times the net worth of blacks and 18 times that of Hispanics, according to an analysis of new Census data.

The analysis shows the racial and ethnic impact of the economic meltdown, which ravaged housing values and sent unemployment soaring. It offers the most direct government evidence yet of the disparity between predominantly younger minorities whose main asset is their home and older whites who are more likely to have 401(k) retirement accounts or other stock holdings.

"What's pushing the wealth of whites is the rebound in the stock market and corporate savings, while younger Hispanics and African-Americans who bought homes in the last decade — because that was the American dream — are seeing big declines," said Timothy Smeeding, a University of Wisconsin-Madison professor who specializes in income inequality.

The median wealth of white U.S. households in 2009 was $113,149, compared with $6,325 for Hispanics and $5,677 for blacks, according to the analysis released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center. Those ratios, roughly 20 to 1 for blacks and 18 to 1 for Hispanics, far exceed the low mark of 7 to 1 for both groups reached in 1995, when the nation's economic expansion lifted many low-income groups to the middle class.


Ya' know, I bitch about my home value because it irks me as I actually qualified to buy the house, but I'll survive. What about the folks that don't have retirement accounts? They must really be pissed.

(07-22-2011, 10:28 PM)username Wrote: So? Did you not know that realestate values fluctuate? Did you buy in the midst of a housing bubble? Did you think "investing in realestate" gave you a guaranteed return?

The housing bubble was bursting well before Barack took office. I don't understand your point here.

My home value started plummeting in 2008. Somehow, I can't bring myself to blame Obama for that one.

You realize Clinton started the NINJA loans, right? I've posted it before. I even named the legislation. So yeah, if you voted for Clinton, you may have to shoulder some of the perceived blame. Or you can blame everything on Bush if it makes you feel better.

I remember laughing about all the people who would be hating life in a few years that bought houses with interest-only loans. I didn't realize they would be be losing their jobs and their homes and their retirement accounts. I don't think anybody else forecasted that with any certainty, either.

It sucks to be wrong. I don't expect the crazy hopey-changey fucks to actually admit it.

I don't agree with everything any president does, or any human, or myself for that matter. But my head isn't so far up my ass that I don't see huge fucking problems. The poor are getting poorer. That's why they should stay home on election day. If you can't run your house, you shouldn't decide on the fate of a nation.

Nobody is immune unless they are extremely wealthy. If it keeps going like it's going, I see many people having to think a little harder about things. I don't want to be reduced to benefit-dependent status. I just want to keep a good percentage of the money I make for my family. I don't want your money or some other stanger's money, just my own earnings.

That isn't fucked up thinking. It's decent and moral. Take care of your own family and do what you are supposed to do. I just don't see the evil in it. If I choose to give to someone or some cause, I will. If I don't, I shouldn't be forced. How can anyone have a problem with that?

(07-26-2011, 04:33 AM)Cracker Wrote: You realize Clinton started the NINJA loans, right? I've posted it before. I even named the legislation. So yeah, if you voted for Clinton, you may have to shoulder some of the perceived blame. Or you can blame everything on Bush if it makes you feel better.

I knew Bill started it. Bad, BAD Bill. I deal with that kind of thing the same way I deal with liking my friends but not liking a quality they possess, my like outweighs my dislike, so I ignore it.

Thank you so much for saying I can blame George, you're the best, Cracker. I'd rather blame him than Bill. You know I love me some Bill Clinton.

(07-15-2011, 08:24 PM)Cracker Wrote: I really feel like you owe me an apology. Especially if you are white. I think it's time. It would really make me feel better and would be a first step towards healing.

If you are planning to vote for him again, just don't tell me.

If you are black, you get a pass. I know you will just blame me for enslaving you 9,000 years ago. I know you will vote for him again even though I have more negro blood in me than he does. You know he's a Jew, right? Jewish mother means Jew. You voted for a Jew who couldn't handle money. WTF?

If you are Hispanic, don't fall for it. He doesn't like all the people of color. He hates you. He said he wants to send ALL Hispanics to Mexico, even if you are from Spain or Puerto Rico. Don't trust him.

Nice one ...