(10-15-2011, 11:25 PM)Chamrajnagar Wrote: All I know is that over this time I have only seen 2 cars with postings for lisa's return and no flyers, while in that same time I can't go 1 block without seeing a poster for a consignment sale for this weekend. I would be searching daily and posting whereever they would let me her picture and getting the help of anyone to find my daughter. I sure as hell wouldn't be staying at a family members' house while sirens are going off as I type this and lights are flashing where my daughter might have possibly been.
-cham

Yeah, that's messed up.

here is a link to Capt. Young speaking on last night's activities re: the vacant house and found old diapers:

http://www.kmbc.com/video/29498238/detail.html


welcome Chamrajnagar and thankyou for your local insights! glad to have you here.


so last night bill the private investigator who isn't 'investigating' anything/PI/circus ringmaster for family called in to the Judge Pirro program on FOX, live, to report the diapers blah blah. it was obvious to me at that point that he is nothing but a network shill as i said when he showed up. he showed up at the vacant house as well. but the parents didn't. did they KNOW their baby wasn't in there?

i haven't commented on anything on the site for a while but this story caught my attention as i have a child about the same age and i've been trying to keep up with it. i was up last night after reading everything thinking about some of the comments people made about the mother sleeping through this alleged kidnapping and how it wouldn't be so difficult as an exhausted mother. i just wanted to chime in with my thoughts on this.

i don't know much about the area but from what others from the area have commented it seems to be a safe area. i live in a nice, safe, "rural-ish" neighborhood where there is not much crime etc and as i said i have a baby about the same age. maybe it's just me, but my husband works nights sometimes and i DO NOT go to sleep when he is gone without checking that our windows and doors are locked etc. i also know that on the nights when he is away i do not sleep as well. i am more alert and wake to every little noise i hear. like i said, maybe i'm just a chicken but it seems so strange to me that a mother home with her children and without her husband overnight wouldn't check the doors and windows, sleep with a cell phone at her side, and sleep so soundly that she didn't hear an alleged intruder.

anyhow, just my two cents. my first thought after reading a few people talking about how sometimes it's not that difficult to sleep through noises you're used to completely made sense and i could relate. but as i continued to think about it and remember the point that the dad wasn't home and my experiences from the nights at home without my husband had me thinking it didn't make sense again.

MO Nat Guard set up along N Jackson south of NE Parvin Rd w/other LE members.


http://www.kmbc.com/video/29500182/detail.html









private driver service. network interview to go to? $$$$$



edit: yep. i knew it.---> Watch "Good Morning America" ABC Monday for Dan Abrams' interview with Lisa Irwin's parents.

with Dan A.

someone knows where you are darling little baby. :(

I don't think her mother had anything to do with her disappearance. I know others don't agree with me, I'm not here to be argumentative, I just wanted to say that out loud, so to speak.

you're not alone in that opinion Duchess.
i haven't got a 100% sure feeling yet.

i just find the parents not honest/or as they have presented themselves.

The search by the MO National Guard soldiers has officially ended. No word if they discovered any clues in the disappearance of #LisaIrwin
17 minutes ago

I didn't read the whole thread, but there are no neighbors or family members who they think would be likely to take her? I guess anything is possible, but it seems strange that some random person would just break in and take the baby with no one seeing or hearing a thing.

i just saw this , don't know context/details.

http://twitter.com/#%21/PeterAlexander

PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
Just intervu'ed #BabyLisa parents. Mom: I was drunk nite of disappearance. @todayshow yfrog.com/gz18enqj
3 minutes ago

PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
My interview w #BabyLisa's parents to air tomorrow @TodayShow. And, why she won't let her kids be re-intervu'ed by KCPD.
3 minutes ago

Sally, i don't believe for one minute this was a stranger abduction.


so being drunk is going to be an excuse...for what?

I want to believe they had nothing to do with it, but as days have gone on it's hard to believe they didn't. This is to much of a circus. Start talking to the media, not GMA. The people from Kansas City want to hear they are still worried of there child's safety! It's BS that they aren't showing more care. I know I have never been in this situation, and god forbid I hope I never do. But I know I would be all over the place to get the word out there. Now that this "REWARD" is out there, all sorts of crap is going to show up. I just wish they would make her take another lie detector test and MAKE HIM take one. Until then I don't know how I feel on this. I just have a hard time believing they didn't do anything. But I still try to believe they didn't and she is still alive. For her sake. Too young. :(

Oh, and send Wild Bill's ass back to NY!!!!!!!!

re: prior post (329):

this is simply an observation.

in some jurisdictions murder can be reduced from 1^st degree to 2^nd degree if accused was drunk.

i think this revelation was calculated.

Mom being drunk might also answer the oft asked question: Why didn't you hear anything? (such as dogs barking...sounds on the baby monitor of baby being snatched....cell phones being stolen, etc.).

(10-16-2011, 06:43 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
Just intervu'ed #BabyLisa parents. Mom: I was drunk nite of disappearance. @todayshow yfrog.com/gz18enqj
3 minutes ago

was she the only adult in the house?

binge drinking on a Monday night??? With all the kids there?

So there might not have been anyone entering through the window .... If mom is now claiming/admitting she was drunk, how drunk would that be? Too drunk to be woken by her children and the dog? If so, someone could have just walked in the door and switched on the light before searching the house for the baby and the cell phones. Wonder why they never took anything else?

Revelation is right! 2^nd degree is less time.
I know not everyone is June Cleaver, but I wouldn't be drinking a box of wine when I have 2 young kids to care for and a baby with a cough and cold. Hell you wouldn't catch me drinking box wine! Does anyone know if she was ever taking to the doctor for this cough and cold? 10 months old I would hope she saw a DR. Just curious?!

Haven't made an appearance for a couple of months, life keeps grabbing me and dragging me back from my keyboard. Been reading and following this particular topic, though. And I wonder... does it look to anyone other than me that the mom seems to be somewhat fearful of the dad? He seems rather withdrawn, but every time she says something she looks over at him as if seeking his approval, or fearful of what his reaction might be to what she says, trying to read the subtle cues on his face that people who know each other well are able to see in each other.

A couple of his comments of the few he's made kind of made me wonder what he could possibly be thinking. From what I've read, he took full custody of his oldest child from the boy's mother which is sort of unusual. I suspect he may have found a way to take the oldest child from his mother to punish her or get revenge for something she did that angered or hurt him. I could be off here, but...

I'm wondering, since Lisa's mom is showing all the emotion, but the dad's rather, well, almost blank, could it be that she did something that greatly displeased him, so he arranged for the baby to be taken from her, and he has hidden Lisa somewhere, has someone taking care of her somewhere unknown to the mom? And that if and/or when he feels she's been punished enough, baby Lisa will magically be found, perhaps sitting someplace where the 'right' people will find her such as police or firemen.? Is it possible that Lisa's mom is terrified that if she doesn't do everything just right, he'll never bring Lisa back?

I really feel that Lisa's mom is scared shitless that she'll never see her baby again. But the dad, with his odd comments and quiet reaction to everything that's happening is just fine, because he knows what's really going on. Is it possible that the dad would be that cold and calculating to be able to pull something like that off? I don't know if this makes sense to anyone, but I've just got this hair-standing-up-on-the-back-of-the-neck, heavy twisted-gut feeling that either he knows what happened to Lisa and Lisa's mom doesn't, or they both do. For some reason, I've got the same feeling that the dad is the one most involved in Lisa's disappearance. I really don't think he's at all what he is trying to appear to be. There's a very dark side there.

Just for shits and giggles, I took one of the earlier interview videos through the mom's part frame-by-frame. And if you look at the frames where she looks at the dad, with it stopped it does look like a brief bolt of incredible fear when she first looks at him. When she's not looking at him, she just looks miserable.

I wish we knew more about this guy, like the circumstances of his split with his son's mother. I'd also like to know a lot more about the situation between Lisa's mom and her ex. Starting with why they split, and what kind of man is he. Did he possibly do or arrange this to get back at Lisa's mom for leaving him? And why haven't these people been checked out yet? Or were they, and I missed it? Seems the unknowns far outweigh the knowns here, and that's never good.

Just conjecture, that's all. But you know, it's that Enquiring Minds Want To Know thing. Have a good night, all.

wonders if the box of wine was empty. did they, she drink the whole thing?

monday morning and the parents will be on the network missing baby tour!

i believe this drunk admission is just setting up a defense for an arrest she feels is coming.

why not admit to it 2 weeks ago?
does she know her baby is out in the elements decomposing somewhere? while well-intentioned LE and citizens and now National Guard search for her?

the local newsies got played, now it's network time.
the casey anthony playbook.
they will announce their lawyer later today. bozo? zat you bozo?

and how convenient:

On the night her 10-month-old daughter disappeared, Lisa Irwin's mother drank enough wine at home while relaxing with a neighbor that she has no recollection of whether or not she checked on her daughter or turned off the house lights before she went to bed.

Did the alcohol cause her to black out? "It's a possibility," Deborah Bradley tells PEOPLE.

(10-17-2011, 06:39 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: and how convenient:

On the night her 10-month-old daughter disappeared, Lisa Irwin's mother drank enough wine at home while relaxing with a neighbor that she has no recollection of whether or not she checked on her daughter or turned off the house lights before she went to bed.

Did the alcohol cause her to black out? "It's a possibility," Deborah Bradley tells PEOPLE.

Which neighbor? Was or will he/she questioned by the police about their recollection of that night?

the neighbor has not been identified in the media as far as i know. but i am certain that LE has interviewed her/him.

and now she says they won't let LE interview the boys again? why the hell not if it helps?


daddy has extremely flat affect. and he reminds me of a rodent.