You know, I always had a sneaky hunch it would somehow come back to the mom. Not sure what I thought it would be...but now with this "Oh, by the way, I guess I was drunk" fits into it somehow. Just wonder if she was asleep...with door unlocked....

pplrcrazy Wrote:{snip}

Edit to add: What kind of mother drinks while watching her children all alone though?

Esp. on the only night baby daddy 'ever' worked a late shift. Did he know her neighbor lady friend and her 4 year old were coming over? Was she on the list he made of possible perps? Did he approve of this friendship, was mom letting loose while controlling daddy was gone? I still would like a medical psychological and drug history on mom. A relationship with women hx on him.

Jeremy Irwin told FOX news he left at 5:20pm. Just thought I would pass that along, since it has been a question on several peoples mind.

Harvest Moon, re your post #344, about Deborah's mother being an alcoholic. Alcoholism can be nature and/or nurture as
we know so think maybe she could have had problem also. Maybe she had a blackout and doesn't know if she did something to baby.
It was said baby had a cold. Perhaps she was fussy and was given a some wine to calm her. According to your post, Deborah's mother's name was Lisa; you could assume baby named after her mother.
This is off-topic, but New York Times says America's Most Wanted will be moving to Lifetime network later this year.
No specific date was given.

I am just baffled on this one.Did the mysteryman (her brother) get the body out of there.The timeline is important on this.What time did the husband LEAVE for work?Did the brother stay? What time did the older kids go to sleep?Did they check the cesspool if they have one?Somethings just don't addup with this case.Maybe it is just me.When was the last time the baby was seen by someone other than the family?

so Taco is doing the network media blitz this morning. says the parents won't be speaking out again. what a fucking big surprise.

(10-18-2011, 08:14 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: so Taco is doing the network media blitz this morning. says the parents won't be speaking out again. what a fucking big surprise.

Well of course they had to go get their paychecks.

WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT THESE PEOPLE ARE DISHING! this is not about the poor baby anymore. swine. all of them.

oh, Taco is not working pro bono, but refuses to say who is paying him.

NBC ActionNews
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - He protects people from prosecution. However, a high-profile New York lawyer said the family of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin hired him to help find the baby.

Feeling pressure from police, Irwin’s family hired a man their consultant Bill Stanton called the best lawyer he’s ever seen.

“When his name popped up on the short list I said stop,” said Bill Stanton, the Irwin family consultant. “If that’s what you want, you can’t do any better.” WORRYING OVER THE LAWYER LIST INSTEAD OF THE BABY??

Joe Tacopina, once called the devil’s advocate and perhaps the most-hated lawyer in New York by the New York Post, handles high-profile cases. His past clients include Michael Jackson and Joran Van Der Sloot, the man suspected in the 2008 disappearance of Natalee Holloway in Aruba.

“I learned that you can’t jump to conclusions,” Tacopina said. “I learned that you can’t jump to conclusions. You have to, despite the suspicion and rank speculation, you have to dictate by the evidence.”

Tacopina said his role is helping police find baby Lisa whose been missing for weeks.BULLSHIT To do so, Tacopina aims to ease tension. Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin complained that investigators are confrontational.

On NBC’s Today Show Monday morning, Bradley admitted being drunk the night baby Lisa disappeared. Bradley also said she last saw her child at 6:30 that same night. She previously told police 10:30.

“My opinion of that is that it’s certainly not material at the end of the day,” Tacopina said. THE HELL IT ISN'T

In a statement, police spokesman Captain Steve Young responded.

“Clearly, the parents’ level of cooperation hasn’t been what it needs to be to help find this child,” Captain Young said. “Should they change their minds, our door is always open.”

“We’re open to any and everything as long as I know we’re all acting in good faith with the same purpose,” Tacopina said. “They want to do whatever they need to do to make sure this baby comes back.”

Tacopina said police have ample evidence of a break-in at the Irwin home the night Lisa disappeared. Despite rumor, he is optimistic Lisa’s parents will not be arrested.

However, Irwin’s family is getting ready for that possibility, Tacopina said.

So...it's clearly very important the parents don't get arrested, and finding the baby is irrelevant now? This just screams innocence. However could anyone doubt that.

(10-18-2011, 09:30 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: “Clearly, the parents’ level of cooperation hasn’t been what it needs to be to help find this child,” Captain Young said. “Should they change their minds, our door is always open.”

“We’re open to any and everything as long as I know we’re all acting in good faith with the same purpose,” Tacopina said. “They want to do whatever they need to do to make sure this baby comes back.”

Congratulations!

You have a lawyer . . . NOW FULLY COOPERATE WITH THE DAMNED INVESTIGATION!

I mean . . . you do want to find your child . . . right?

(10-18-2011, 10:37 AM)BlueTiki Wrote: Congratulations!

You have a lawyer . . . NOW FULLY COOPERATE WITH THE DAMNED INVESTIGATION!

I mean . . . you do want to find your child . . . right?

I'm beginning to have doubts on whether they (parents) do want to find baby Lisa. I mean, Deborah would rather lie, and fail the polygraph test, than admit to being so drunk she couldn't 'remember' checking on Lisa.

WOW! back at the start i said this case reminded me of baby Sabrina...and sure as shit, here are Sabrina's parents crawling out from under their rock and offering support:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-baby-st...d=14737456

2 crime scene vans have just arrived at today's search area.

would a crime scene van hint of something going down?
Or is that just protocol for a search?

it may just mean they have found items of interest that need proper collection.

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Authorities are investigating a possible sighting of missing 11-month-old Lisa Irwin in the Manhattan, Kan., area.

The Kansas Highway Patrol officials said Riley County police asked them to put out an alert about a small black car with Missouri tags with two women and a baby inside.

According to the Highway Patrol, the women were seen at a McAlister's Deli at 421 Tuttle Creek Blvd. on Tuesday. Investigators said the women were in a booth at the restaurant and left without eating their meals after people took notice of them.

The women are described as white and in their 20s. One woman had dark hair with a pink hooded sweatshirt and the second woman had light brown hair and a slender build.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/news/29520615/detail...z1bAKfVEjg

news was asked not to show live feed.
but they have done that before.

RussPtacek Russ Ptacek
Our pilot says FAA just closed two square miles of airspace over Baby Lisa search area to 8 PM. Very rare. #lisairwin #babylisa. @nbcactionnews
1 minute ago

Oh god, I hope I'm wrong about the mom! I hope this turns out to be the little girl..

Not liking the way this is spiraling. Even if it means some sense of closure. There is likely enough there to want it privatized. Very sad.

I hope the sighting a bazillion miles away turns out to be little Madeleine...I mean Lisa.

(10-17-2011, 02:34 PM)IMaDick Wrote:

(10-17-2011, 02:26 PM)lawheeze Wrote: It sort of announces your guilt when you hire an attorney that has represented notoriously guilty defendants; doesn't it?

What attorney should they hire?

One that has never argued a case in court?

Or should they just wait and take a public defender after being arrested?

They are wise to hire a good lawyer now, it may help them not to say things that will later bite them in the ass.

I would do the same thing, guilty or not, I would hire the best attorney I could afford.

Yes, hire a good lawyer now. No, they should not hire someone who's never had a case in court or just wait for a public defender. Those aren't the only alternatives to my point.

Hire the best attorney for the kind of legal advice you need. Greg Skordas represented Elizabeth Smart’s family. Or John G. Kelly who represented Nathalie Holloway’s family as well as the estate of Nicole Brown Simpson. But instead they go with the attorney for Nathalie Holloway’s alleged killer?

I’m surprised he was on the list they got to choose from, quite frankly. I seriously doubt he’s “the best” attorney to represent the innocent family of a missing baby. He’s the kind of guy you bring in when you are trying to make the best of a bad conviction that’s coming your way.

Also, in the Elizabeth Smart kidnapping, it was a tip from one of her sisters that led to the identity of the kidnapper. Lisa Irwin’s family should really be grilling her brothers for info. That is unless they already know what happened to Lisa Irwin and therefore don’t need to ask.

In the meantime, it appears they’re “looking for the real killer” like OJ was.