parents left home about noon with a woman in a government vehicle.
i won't speculate on that.

no-fly zone, heavy police presence. if anyone sees the ME wagon, that will mean something.

edit to add: seems they are packing up. nothing there.

Ok Im confused, is there 2 things going on? One in another county and one involving the parents?? I'm praying for the one where they think they spotted her!

These people make me so fucking sick to my stomach!!! Whoring themselves out for interviews for only the highest bidder...and now this disgusting attorney.

There should be a law against parents/familly members profiting off the disappearance of a child!

Is it possible they set this whole thing up to make some big money? I don't like the feeling they are giving me at all.


Back to lurking now...

I keep hoping this is a scam, too. It's despicable, but at least it isn't a body recovery.

But it isn't looking too good for that scenario...

i can't confirm this with a link damn it, but i heard it reported by FOX today that when the cell phones were discovered to be missing the parents did not call the numbers to see if anyone answered. or even to establish pings. ok that takes a cop mind, but not simply calling them. i mean fuck, they took your phones, nevermind your baby! outrageous!

i have called my son's cell when he has misplaced it in the house. that does not take a cop mindset.

Excellent point re the phones. I call mine all the time to locate it in the house. My husband couldn't find his yesterday when he came home from doing some errands. I called the #, we didn't hear it. I called again later and someone answered - a store employee had found it.

If I thought the same person had my phones and MY BABY, I'd sure as heck be calling that number.

I remember reading somewhere that one of the boys slept in the same room as Lisa, and there is also some confusion as to whether one or both boys were asleep with Deb. Could the one boy sleeping in the room with Lisa have reached his last nerve with the crying, sick bab and couldn't wake mom up so he reacted to try and shut her up? Just reaching for straws here.

That would explain why Jeremy looks like he is helping cover something tho.

i am hearing her son by the soldier she is still married to, has been sent to his paternal grandparents. there could be several reasons for that.

another comment...she is on anti-anxiety Rx. not compatible to being drunk as well.

This is interesting link! Hope i do this correctly.
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/17/full interview-megyn-kelly-presses

(10-18-2011, 07:41 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: This is interesting link! Hope i do this correctly.
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/17/full interview-megyn-kelly-presses

Hey thanks blueberryhill! Good post, and the linked worked FYI

(10-18-2011, 07:21 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: another comment...she is on anti-anxiety Rx. not compatible to being drunk as well.

As someone who takes something to that effect, that should be a given. Booze + meds = a horrible, horrible thing.

As for this case, it's basically a media circus (meaning the twists and turns and new people really, not the actual coverage - that's been hard and heavy in the KC metro). Plus, with temperatures dropping by the day, it's highly unlikely that if this baby was outside that it's even still alive.

I dunno...this case just bothers me with all the unanswered questions and most of all the parents. Blaming the police (who have been investigating this since the Amber Alert was issued), not talking to the local media (and then, changing the story everytime they were on the TV)

A local media specialist (can't tell if they're with the police or a local station) said that while it makes for great media coverage, they've been literally 'screwing up' (I believe that was the term he used) everytime that they've spoken to the media.

My 2-cents? I believe this baby isn't alive anymore and that at least 1 member of the family (if not more) is/are responsible for her death. I don't want that to be the case, but I literally can't make myself believe any words coming out of that 'attorney' or the parents' mouths anymore....

One of the MSM interviews reported that DB is taking Effexor. It is most often prescribed for depression, but according to the website www.effexor.com it is used to treat "major depressive disorder, generalized anxiety disorder, panic disorder, and social anxiety disorder".

It could be that her mental health diagnosis is broader than anxiety. Or, the prescribing doctor knew about her alcoholism, so this medication was prescribed rather than Xanax. Xanax (Alprazolam) is used to treat anxiety disorders and panic disorder. Xanax is a benzo and addictive, so many doctors will not prescribe it to patients with addictions to alcohol or other drugs.

it's after 8PM there and the parents are barred from their house. the police are executing a warrant. that means some Judge signed a warrant for specific items and had probable cause.

fuck you very much Taco.

Wonder if the crib mattress is new...

(10-18-2011, 09:17 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: it's after 8PM there and the parents are barred from their house. the police are executing a warrant. that means some Judge signed a warrant for specific items and had probable cause.

fuck you very much Taco.

LC, is this the house where they were staying with family or the house they lived in? I read where Deb refused to go back to that house ever again. Wonder why? Humm...

TIA

if my baby was snatched (I would be innocent of any wrong doing) I would never go back to my house ever

"LC, is this the house where they were staying with family or the house they lived in?"

this is house they lived in with baby Lisa where she was "kidnapped".
and i think they are going to do a more thorough search wednesday.

Unconfirmed source states one of the "stolen" cell phones pinged at 2:30 am the same evening that baby Lisa was "taken" and was in or around the location of the family home. I don't understand why the parent's won't let the police speak with the other 2 kids again, the only reason I can think of is because the first story the kids told was planted in their head by the parent's and the parent's are affraid if asked again, the kids will tell a different story and I believe the cops know that as well. This mother or father did something to this baby, I can just feel it. The sighting that was reported earlier about the two women and the baby 120 miles away was confirmed that is was NOT baby Lisa.

I just wrote a post but damn if i know what happened to it. I don't think I clicked post. I am even older than OTD so
i have more of those "moments." Let's see if i can remember what i said.
This is a real stretch but it was stated somewhere that Deb and her neighbor were sitting outside. Just maybe the
baby was never placed in the crib and was crawling around somewhere when mother "fell asleep." Mr. Irwin said the
front door was open so she could have crawled outside and when mother awakened around 2:30, she found baby gone.
(not sure of timeline). Also if baby was in bed with mother, could she have rolled over on top of her causing her to
suffocate?

(10-18-2011, 11:54 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: Just maybe the
baby was never placed in the crib and was crawling around somewhere when mother "fell asleep." Mr. Irwin said the
front door was open so she could have crawled outside and when mother awakened around 2:30, she found baby gone.

I've wondered the same thing. If the baby might have crawled away and...God knows what.

But I kind of think a baby would reach a certain distance and just sit down and cry (if the child hadn't fallen in to a manhole cover or something). I don't think a 10 month old would get far....I think if that's what had happened, she would have been found already.