Is the US declaration of independence illegal?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15345511

You want us back?

Clearly, both sides have reasonable arguments. I find it interesting to ponder how our country would react if Texas wanted to secede (as in the example).

If California wanted to secede, most people would probably happily let us go.

(10-20-2011, 11:31 AM)username Wrote: You want us back?

Some of you.

As for California I thought everyone loved Hollywood?

The question is ludicrous at it's core, we determine our own legality, if the Declaration of Independence was voted on and ratified, it's our law and it's legal.

The rest of the world can fuck off.

Hollywood is the cesspool of America. So many weirdos there. They go in normal and come out permanently brain dead.

(10-20-2011, 11:43 AM)IMaDick Wrote: ludacris

Ludicrous.

Ludacris is the name of a rapper you fucking mong.

As usual dick weighs up all the arguments before forming an opinion, he ain't no kneejerk!

(10-20-2011, 11:50 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(10-20-2011, 11:43 AM)IMaDick Wrote: ludacris

Ludicrous.

Ludacris is the name of a rapper you fucking mong.

As usual dick weighs up all the arguments before forming an opinion, he ain't no kneejerk!

poor little shit bird, it was corrected long before your post.

you shouldn't spend so much time trying to come up with bullshit to make your sorry assed self seem normal.

slow fucking brain dead rodent suffocaters should probably stay hid in their parents basement out of contact with normal,productive people.

(10-20-2011, 11:44 AM)Maggot Wrote: Hollywood is the cesspool of America. So many weirdos there. They go in normal and come out permanently brain dead.

Trashy and loud entertainment is one of the few things left you are good at making as a nation.

I eagerly await the next 3D CGI infested piece of shit.

(10-20-2011, 11:53 AM)IMaDick Wrote: poor little shit bird, it was corrected long before your post.

you shouldn't spend so much time trying to come up with bullshit to make your sorry assed self seem normal.

slow fucking brain dead rodent suffocaters should probably stay hid in their parents basement out of contact with normal,productive people.

So are you going to bother reading the legitimate arguments for and against the legality of the declaration of independence?, or are you going to stick to the same kneejerk delusional shit flinging?

(10-20-2011, 11:53 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(10-20-2011, 11:44 AM)Maggot Wrote: Hollywood is the cesspool of America. So many weirdos there. They go in normal and come out permanently brain dead.

Trashy and loud entertainment is one of the few things left you are good at making as a nation.

I eagerly await the next 3D CGI infested piece of shit.

I figure the UK is less than a decade away from sharia law and no TV.

(10-20-2011, 11:55 AM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(10-20-2011, 11:53 AM)IMaDick Wrote: poor little shit bird, it was corrected long before your post.

you shouldn't spend so much time trying to come up with bullshit to make your sorry assed self seem normal.

slow fucking brain dead rodent suffocaters should probably stay hid in their parents basement out of contact with normal,productive people.

So are you going to bother reading the legitimate arguments for and against the legality of the declaration of independence?, or are you going to stick to the same kneejerk delusional shit flinging?

There aren't any legitimate arguments.

All actors are liars some better than others.

(10-20-2011, 11:55 AM)IMaDick Wrote: I figure the UK is less than a decade away from sharia law and no TV.

(10-20-2011, 11:56 AM)IMaDick Wrote: There aren't any legitimate arguments.

Yes there are shitbird.

The Declaration of Independence was not only illegal, but actually treasonable. There is no legal principle then or now to allow a group of citizens to establish their own laws because they want to. What if Texas decided today it wanted to secede from the Union?

Lincoln made the case against secession and he was right. The Declaration of Independence itself, in the absence of any recognised legal basis, had to appeal to "natural law", an undefined concept, and to "self-evident truths", that is to say truths for which no evidence could be provided.

The grievances listed in the Declaration were too trivial to justify secession. The main one - no taxation without representation - was no more than a wish on the part of the colonists, to avoid paying for the expense of protecting them against the French during seven years of arduous war and conflict.

You failed to understand what "Revolution" means.

who were they treasonous against?

Texas is part of the Republic and that Republic has already decided that individual states cannot succeed from the Republic, those are laws made by this COUNTRY what the rest of the world thinks is irrelivant.

Like I said there are no valid arguments.

(10-20-2011, 12:01 PM)Cynical Ninja Wrote:

(10-20-2011, 11:55 AM)IMaDick Wrote: I figure the UK is less than a decade away from sharia law and no TV.

You should be more worried about what is going in your own country and stop fucking with this one.

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Only days after a deranged Anders Breivik claimed creeping Islamization of Norway as an excuse for cold-bloodedly murdering 76 people, the majority of which were children, a group of British Muslim extremists have seemingly mocked the tragedy by hanging bright yellow posters in several London boroughs declaring them “Sharia-controlled zones.”

One has to wonder about the timing.

Pasted on bus stops and street lamps, the posters have appeared in the London boroughs of Waltham Forest, Tower Hamlets and Newham. The message they convey is that there is to be “no gambling,” “no music or concerts,” “no porn or prostitution,” “no drugs or smoking” and “no alcohol” in the areas where the posters are displayed. The warning at the top reads: “You are entering a Sharia-controlled zone – Islamic rules enforced.” The messages are going up in both Muslim and non-Muslim-majority areas and are expected to appear country-wide.

“We now have hundreds, if not thousands of people up and down the country willing to go out and patrol the streets for us,” said Anjem Choudary, 41, the Muslim “preacher” claiming responsibility for the poster campaign.

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/07/29/shari...-sweep-uk/

Why do people put up with that shit?

I'm kinda hoping that America is built on a lie.

For decades we've had the whole "built on the backs of slaves" thing, shoved down our throats.

hmmph. take THAT Limey!

(10-20-2011, 12:12 PM)IMaDick Wrote: Only days after a deranged Anders Breivik claimed creeping Islamization of Norway as an excuse for cold-bloodedly murdering 76 people, the majority of which were children, a group of British Muslim extremists have seemingly mocked the tragedy by hanging bright yellow posters in several London boroughs declaring them “Sharia-controlled zones.”

One has to wonder about the timing.

Pasted on bus stops and street lamps, the posters have appeared in the London boroughs of Waltham Forest, Tower Hamlets and Newham. The message they convey is that there is to be “no gambling,” “no music or concerts,” “no porn or prostitution,” “no drugs or smoking” and “no alcohol” in the areas where the posters are displayed. The warning at the top reads: “You are entering a Sharia-controlled zone – Islamic rules enforced.” The messages are going up in both Muslim and non-Muslim-majority areas and are expected to appear country-wide.

“We now have hundreds, if not thousands of people up and down the country willing to go out and patrol the streets for us,” said Anjem Choudary, 41, the Muslim “preacher” claiming responsibility for the poster campaign.

http://frontpagemag.com/2011/07/29/shari...-sweep-uk/