(07-21-2012, 07:59 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: I'll tell you: ESAD has taught me how these fuckers think.

What's ESAD?


I actually think he IS crazy. I guess in this case you could really say BATshit crazy.

I haven't discounted a mind control angle on this. Too much political capital (gun control) in an act like this. I wouldn't be surprised if the TSA Nazis won't be feeling people up in movies theaters, soon. Maybe full body scanners, too. A little sexual assault and radiation with your popcorn?

(07-21-2012, 09:49 PM)QueenBee Wrote: 6000 rounds of ammo? WTF. How was he able to buy all this through the mail, and get it delivered to a private address with no red flags, bells or whistles going off?
Maybe I am wrong, but wasn't the Brady Bill supposed to increase background checks for firearms? Don't they check for a Mental illness background? His Dad even said he was nuts.

Do you have a link on the dad's statements?

Everything he bought was LEGAL. What's happening as a result of this is that legal weapons are being subtly attacked. The Aurora chief is from NYC. No doubt he's a buddy of Bloomberg and Kelly - two anti American socialists who would like to see everyone disarmed. On the morning of the attack, before 9:00 AM, Bloomberg was already calling for gun control. Well, fuck him because Americans are not giving up their right to self defense, in spite of what progressives would like.

When the chief talked about the buying online and the shipments to Holmes, all I could think of was Waco. The Branch Davidians also had shipments of LEGAL guns and it was a UPS driver who called authorities. The result was 90 murdered people.

The ban on assault weapons shouldn't have been allowed to expire. I don't think our founding fathers anticipated them with regards to the second amendment.

Veronica Moser-Sullivan was the youngest victim

(07-22-2012, 08:20 AM)Duchess Wrote:

I'm right there with you, Duchess.

(07-21-2012, 10:28 PM)username Wrote: The ban on assault weapons shouldn't have been allowed to expire. I don't think our founding fathers anticipated them with regards to the second amendment.

Agreed. I support the right to own a firearm. However, a regular citizen has no use for an assault weapon.

Although, I keep thinking that no matter what laws we pass when a psycho like this wants to kill people, he will find a way. He will get the weapons illegally or find someother way to accomplish his goal. American needs to find a way to stop these monsters before they can carry out their plans. But how????

@ramseycat, I don't disagree with your sentiment. It would be great if there was a way to stop these mass murderers and spree killers. Possibly, the continued research into brain scanning for abnormalities will help in the future? Or, maybe some of these perpetrators are just evil by choice or get set off by some common triggers that can be better detected in the future?

IDK. But I do know that it's not an "American" issue, it's a problem worldwide. Murderous nut jobs everywhere, no doubt about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers

I hope Holmes is talking. Maybe investigators can get some sense of "why" from his skewed perspective and learn more. Probably won't help the families of these victims much in dealing with their losses, I expect, but understanding what the hell this guy was thinking might help in some small way.

50 rounds per minute. ::

Thankfully these situations are pretty rare. Probably more important to figure out how to ID and treat these kinds of nutjobs before they act out their fantasies than to take away the guns. But all that ammo, no red flags? I find that hard to believe that the FBI or ATF were not aware of this stockpiling. I wonder why they just sat on it?

(07-22-2012, 05:42 PM)username Wrote: 50 rounds per minute. ::

Yep. He waged his own war against innocent unarmed citizens who simply wanted to watch a damn movie.

This happens across the globe; various locales, various weapons of choice, same tragic result. Insane, for sure.

It was a semi-auto not an assault weapon.

(07-22-2012, 06:20 PM)Maggot Wrote: It was a semi-auto not an assault weapon.

Then WTF are we talking about?? haha!

I thought I heard it was some type of assault weapon that would have been banned under the Brady bill. No?

(07-21-2012, 10:08 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(07-21-2012, 07:59 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: I'll tell you: ESAD has taught me how these fuckers think.

What's ESAD?


I actually think he IS crazy. I guess in this case you could really say BATshit crazy.

I haven't discounted a mind control angle on this. Too much political capital (gun control) in an act like this. I wouldn't be surprised if the TSA Nazis won't be feeling people up in movies theaters, soon. Maybe full body scanners, too. A little sexual assault and radiation with your popcorn?

If it will help protect me and my loved ones, i say search on

(07-21-2012, 10:15 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(07-21-2012, 09:49 PM)QueenBee Wrote: 6000 rounds of ammo? WTF. How was he able to buy all this through the mail, and get it delivered to a private address with no red flags, bells or whistles going off?
Maybe I am wrong, but wasn't the Brady Bill supposed to increase background checks for firearms? Don't they check for a Mental illness background? His Dad even said he was nuts.

Do you have a link on the dad's statements?

Everything he bought was LEGAL. What's happening as a result of this is that legal weapons are being subtly attacked. The Aurora chief is from NYC. No doubt he's a buddy of Bloomberg and Kelly - two anti American socialists who would like to see everyone disarmed. On the morning of the attack, before 9:00 AM, Bloomberg was already calling for gun control. Well, fuck him because Americans are not giving up their right to self defense, in spite of what progressives would like.

When the chief talked about the buying online and the shipments to Holmes, all I could think of was Waco. The Branch Davidians also had shipments of LEGAL guns and it was a UPS driver who called authorities. The result was 90 murdered people.

I support the NRA and Id like to see anyone stop me from getting a gun if some batshitcrazy stalker was after anyone in our family...with that being said, I hate it when the right uses Waco as an example of the horrors of intrusive govt...those guys were nuts...beatings and molesting children...it is a horrible shame it ended like it did but that was not the govts intent.

(07-22-2012, 06:43 PM)pspence Wrote:

(07-21-2012, 10:08 PM)shitstorm Wrote:

(07-21-2012, 07:59 PM)Ma Huang Sor Wrote: I'll tell you: ESAD has taught me how these fuckers think.

What's ESAD?


I actually think he IS crazy. I guess in this case you could really say BATshit crazy.

I haven't discounted a mind control angle on this. Too much political capital (gun control) in an act like this. I wouldn't be surprised if the TSA Nazis won't be feeling people up in movies theaters, soon. Maybe full body scanners, too. A little sexual assault and radiation with your popcorn?

If it will help protect me and my loved ones, i say search on

The only problem with that is you wanting it means violating the rights of others. Not saying that life doesn't have risks, and that acts of violence aren't a concern, but trashing the constitution isn't the way to remedy the problems.

(07-22-2012, 06:58 PM)shitstorm Wrote: [quote='pspence' pid

If it will help protect me and my loved ones, i say search on

The only problem with that is you wanting it means violating the rights of others. Not saying that life doesn't have risks, and that acts of violence aren't a concern, but trashing the constitution isn't the way to remedy the problems.
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I think most Americans realize the need of airport searches, courtrooms, etc we always want to protect the constitution but when they wrote it they didnt have Oozies or guys with shoe bombs getting ready to board the same plane you and your kid are boarding to go to disneyland.

I think most Americans realize the need of airport searches, courtrooms, etc we always want to protect the constitution but when they wrote it they didnt have Oozies or guys with shoe bombs getting ready to board the same plane you and your kid are boarding to go to disneyland.

All I can say is that people far smarter than I warned that when you give up your freedom for 'security', you WILL lose your freedom.

I wish that just once, one of the family members of one of the innocent victims of a gun crime like this would have the balls to publicly declare, 'You know, that guy was a fucking loon, but he legally procured his weapons and ammo, and we're thankful we live in a country that allows people to legally buy those weapons.'

Just once.

Along those same lines MWS...I remember this one republican being interviewed after columbine ... in response to the pundit's question "what do you say NOW senator about you being against gun control...can you finally admit we should have strict gun control laws?"

He said "the batshitcrazyloon violated at least 168 felonies ...why would another law have made a difference ?"