It becomes difficult to keep track of the Clarkes on the court documents. Sometimes they are Clarke and others Clark. Johnny was Clark when he was murdered. I think the fault is with the court system. Anyway very confusing.

I heard through the grapevine of the streets that Johnny and Lisa owed cam/Sam maybe 1 or both money for perc's.. People wanted there money for the pills.

(09-19-2012, 01:58 PM)Sonny223 Wrote: I heard through the grapevine of the streets that Johnny and Lisa owed cam/Sam maybe 1 or both money for perc's.. People wanted there money for the pills.

And did you hear that they were harrassing Maytee and Big John? Wanting to know where Johnny was?

(09-18-2012, 10:15 PM)YourOtherLeft Wrote: Pretty sure Big John is not Latino, Maytee is Cuban, though.

Thought about that too. He probably did not change his name. But wildflower made a good point. Explains why all the sons names sound so much alike. Plus the way i see it, when they married they became a white and Cuban family. Obviously i don't know big johns exact ancestry so I'll just leave it at white.

The source said nothing about any safe at all. Just money owed over perc's, I guess quite a few were moving through everyone's hands. So JC owed some money cam/Sam and also heard cam is a piece of shit, he was part of this, got let off hook and the streets will probably eat him up, mayb even put him inter ground. Especially with a ticket on his head. Cam after high school changed from a decent person to a thug and would def. Be capable of a crime like this.

The source said nothing about any safe at all. Just money owed over perc's, I guess quite a few were moving through everyone's hands. So JC owed some money cam/Sam and also heard cam is a piece of shit, he was part of this, got let off hook and the streets will probably eat him up, mayb even put him inter ground. Especially with a ticket on his head. Cam after high school changed from a decent person to a thug and would def. Be capable of a crime like this.
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The "safe" has been brought up from day one multiple sources on the street including the Clarkes. Multiple people even testified about talk of an "alleged safe." I don't believe that Johnny owed Cam/Sam enough cash to be torchered like they were. I stand firm on my beliefs that the Clarkes hold the answers to what really happened that night. The only everyone will be caught is to keep this story alive. This forum has allowed people to vent, info to come fourth and it is the people of Mock that are keeping this case alive and on people's minds. It may even help if a few Mockers actually picked up the phone and called Det. Jeff Kozak or Phil Williams @ the Lucas County Sheriff office and voiced their concerns. The Detective's know a lot of infromation about Maytee and John which has not been made public.....only to turn a blind eye to their suspicions. Cops should continue to hit the streets, kick a little dirt...hell maybe even visit the stop and go carryout on Airport and Danberry and listen to the streets.
As far as Cameo...I believe that he will be behind bars in the very near future for his envolvement in a burglary on the East side. Listen to the scanners...because he has been being watched.

i've been gone since monday...has williams been transferred yet?

(09-21-2012, 01:41 AM)Lady Cop Wrote: i've been gone since monday...has williams been transferred yet?

Welcome back!

haven't heard any news on williams.

http://www.drc.ohio.gov/offendersearch/D...id=A667854

I am overwhelmed with sadness.

(09-21-2012, 03:52 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: I am overwhelmed with sadness.

You're not the only one OTD. :(

one reason williams was sent out of toledo area was because he's a target for what he did to Lisa. not only on the street, but in the prison.

As he should be...

(09-21-2012, 02:03 AM)Bella0213 Wrote: http://www.drc.ohio.gov/offendersearch/D...id=A667854

Bella0213, so glad you found this and posted it! a bit of good news.

(09-18-2012, 08:43 PM)imsuchawildflower Wrote:

(08-22-2012, 01:02 AM)YourOtherLeft Wrote: Just noticed something interesting on Big John...he had several traffic charges from 2008, they were consolidated with drug possession charge in 2008 that's under Jovanny's name with Big John's birthdate....in 2010 a bench warrant was issued and bond set at $1000. On 7/19/2012 bench warrant revoked, case reset and set for trial 9/21/2012.

This was bothering me...so I checked into it.
I asked several of my Latino friends, who said that children will be named
family names, but shorten then to be more American/mainstream...ie, Jesse
instead of Jesus, Rick instead of Ricardo, Lou instead of Lupe or Lupita.
Has anyone checked to see if Big John's original name was Jovanny and
shortened it to John at some time? It would make sense to me...especially
with having a John Jr in Johnny already, then naming another son Jovanny.
Would go right along with Latino traditions for naming their children.

About this business above, it looks to me like he failed to appear IMO Bench Warrant was issued yesterday 9/21/2012 & $250.00 Bond set 9/21/2012. Anyone know what is going on?

Justice for Johnny Clarke and Lisa Straub
Yesterday via mobile
See you in court tomorrow


Not sure what this means ???

I wondered if anybody saw that on FB. Her post right before that said "JUSTICE" .
She usually replies to comments, but she didn't reply to any of them(about if they caught somebody else, etc). I call it all

Somebody (Williams) might have played his cards right!
http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/09...ility.html

(09-23-2012, 12:22 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote: Somebody (Williams) might have played his cards right!
http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/09...ility.html

This is a bad situation! what exactly was going on in this place?

Does anyone know why the Ohio Highway Patrol is investigating this death?

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/09...ility.html

I was wondering the same thing.^^ I have 3 friends that work there. It may take me a few days to hear what happen. As soon as I get the scoop I'll let you all know.