(04-30-2013, 02:45 AM)NightOwl Wrote:

(04-29-2013, 09:57 AM)JsMom Wrote: Check out this video
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2..._here.html

Judge lays into jihad mother

So glad you put this video up JsMom I just loved it! thank-you!

Judge Jeanine Pirro needs to be on the front cover of Time Magazine.

You're welcome. I thought that was too good to pass up; had to post it.

Found more on Misha. New York Review of Books Blog.

‘Misha’ Speaks: An Interview with the Alleged Boston Bomber’s ‘Svengali’

Christian Caryl

As the investigation of the Boston Marathon bombings continues, one of the more clouded aspects is the tale of “Misha,” a mysterious US-based Islamist who has been accused by members of the Tsarnaev family of radicalizing Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the elder of the two alleged bombers. “It started in 2009. And it started right there, in Cambridge,” Tamerlan’s uncle, Ruslan Tsarni, told CNN after the attacks. “This person just took his brain. He just brainwashed him completely.” These accusations set off a frenzied search for what some reports have called an Islamic Svengali, and over the past few days, the FBI has said it has located and has been talking to “Misha,” though his identity has remained unknown.

Today I was able to meet “Misha,” whose real name is Mikhail Allakhverdov. Having been referred by a family in Boston that was close to the Tsarnaevs, I found Allakhverdov at his home in Rhode Island, in a lower middle class neighborhood, where he lives in modest, tidy apartment with his elderly parents. He confirmed he was a convert to Islam and that he had known Tamerlan Tsarnaev, but he flatly denied any part in the bombings. “I wasn’t his teacher. If I had been his teacher, I would have made sure he never did anything like this,” Allakhverdov said.

A thirty-nine-year-old man of Armenian-Ukrainian descent, Allakhverdov is of medium height and has a thin, reddish-blond beard. When I arrived he was wearing a green and white short-sleeve football jersey and pajama pants. Along with his parents, his American girlfriend was there, and we sat together in a tiny living room that abuts the family kitchen.

Allakhverdov said he had known Tamerlan in Boston, where he lived until about three years ago, and has not had any contact with him since. He declined to describe the nature of his acquaintance with Tamerlan or the Tsarnaev family, but said he had never met the family members who are now accusing him of radicalizing Tamerlan. He also confirmed he had been interviewed by the FBI and that he has cooperated with the investigation:

I’ve been cooperating entirely with the FBI. I gave them my computer and my phone and everything I wanted to show I haven’t done anything. And they said they are about to return them to me. And the agents who talked told me they are about to close my case.

An FBI spokesman in Boston declined to comment on an ongoing case. Allakhverdov’s statements, however, seemed to bear out recent reports that the FBI have not found any connection between “Misha” and the bomb plot.

One question is why members of the Tsarnaev family have made accusations about Allakhverdov. A close friend of the family in Boston said that Misha was not known to have visited Tamerlan at home. I interviewed Allakhverdov in Russian and it seems likely that in whatever contact the two men had, they would have spoken Russian.

In many ways, Allakhverdov’s parents seem typical former-Soviet émigrés who had embraced middle class life in the United States. His father is an Armenian Christian and his mother is an ethnic Ukrainian. The family had lived in Baku, Azerbaijan, but had left in the early 1990s for the United States to escape growing persecution of Armenian Christians there. The family was welcoming to me but very nervous. “We love this country. We never expected anything like this to happen to us,” his father said.

Christian Caryl’s reporting on the Tsarnaev family and the Chechen and Russian community in Boston will appear in a coming issue of The New York Review.

April 28, 2013, 8:10 p.m.

http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/201...ha-speaks/

Junior got a good attorney to help him escape the death penalty. They're already talking about taking it off the table if he provides "information".

Breaking news: 3 people have been taken in to custody.

Ha, was just gonna post that user.

Edit: love how it's not even eluded to how these 3 were connected

(05-01-2013, 11:22 AM)username Wrote: Breaking news: 3 people have been taken in to custody.

Three college students have been arrested by federal authorities in connection with the Boston Marathon bombings, a law enforcement official familar with the case said this morning.

The Boston police Web page said that three additional “suspects” had been taken into custody. It emphasized that there was no threat to public safety.

The three people were connected to Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, the surviving bomb suspect, at the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, where Tsarnaev was a student. They allegedly helped him after the bombing, a different source told the Globe.

“Additional details will be provided when they become available,” police said in a statement. No news conference was scheduled.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/2013/05/...story.html
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More tentacles.

LE is investigating Tamerlan Tsarnaev's widow for possible involvement, checking into the family's claims that Misha was somehow a terror-instigator, looking at whether or not the bombers' lovely mother had knowledge or played a role, and now suspect that these college students helped the surviving bomber after the fact.

Bet there's more coming too.

I'm sure they were right wing members of the Young Republicans club.

No chance they were muslim radicals between the ages 18-35, right?

In addition to now being investigated in relation to the triple homicide in Massachusetts on Sept. 11^th 2012, looks like Tamerlan was already under suspicion in connection to the death of another man in Russia in July 2012.

U.S. law enforcement officials have been trying to determine whether Tamerlan Tsarnaev was indoctrinated or trained by militants during his visit to Dagestan, a Caspian Sea province that has become the center of a simmering Islamic insurgency.

The security official with the Anti-Extremism Center, a federal agency under Russia's Interior Ministry, confirmed the Russians shared their concerns. He said that Russian agents were watching Tsarnaev, and that they searched for him when he disappeared two days after the July 2012 death of the Canadian man, who had joined the Islamic insurgency in the region. The official spoke only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the news media.

Security officials suspected ties between Tsarnaev and the Canadian - an ethnic Russian named William Plotnikov - according to the Novaya Gazeta newspaper, which is known for its independence and investigative reporting and cited an unnamed official with the Anti-Extremism Center, which tracks militants. The newspaper said the men had social networking ties that brought Tsarnaev to the attention of Russian security services for the first time in late 2010.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/un...z2S3zNSljg

Also today, Tamerlan's widow (via her attorney) announced that she wished to have his body turned over to his family.

hairOfTheDog, interesting read at above post. I wanted more information about this William Plotnikov what is his story, here is an interview of his father done by the National Post in Canada.

Canadian may have fought ‘jihad’ in Dagestan, but he had nothing to do with Boston bombing, father says.TORONTO — Vitaly Plotnikov has accepted that his son William converted to Islam, got led astray by radicals and left Canada to fight “jihad” in Dagestan, where he was killed last July by Russian security forces.

But in an exclusive interview with the National Post on Tuesday, he said he doubted reports claiming his son was connected to Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the older of two brothers believed responsible for the deadly Boston Marathon bombings.

Speaking for over an hour at his suburban condo, Mr. Plotnikov declined to comment about whether the RCMP had asked him about Tsarnaev. But he said officers had seized the computer hard drive his son used, which should reveal his online contacts.

“The thing is that William, when he started to believe in Islam, he became very quiet and inside himself and he didn’t communicate with us. He didn’t tell us about friends,” the father said, speaking through a Russian interpreter.

“Maybe they were in contact or communicated online. He didn’t report to me or tell me about his contacts. It’s not that I want to distance myself from Tsarnaev. It’s just that I do my analysis myself. And indeed only God knows.”


Although he has been dead nine months, William Plotnikov’s name surfaced soon after the Boston Marathon attack as the FBI began asking questions about six months Tsarnaev had spent in Dagestan last year.

Sources familiar with the case said there was no confirmed link between the Canadian and Tsarnaev, who killed four and injured hundreds. But investigators are checking, and there is no shortage of speculation given the similarities in their backgrounds and trajectories.

Both were boxers and immigrants in their early 20s who suddenly became devout Muslims and left North American for Dagestan, a southern Russian republic where armed groups are fighting to impose Islamic law.

Mr. Plotnikov said he did not believe they had met through boxing, and he said they were nothing alike, making it doubtful they would have become friends. He also said his son was in the mountains with the rebels throughout Tsarnaev’s trip to Dagestan.

“I don’t think that William went into the mountains and informed Tsarnaev, ‘I am here and you can find me there.’ There’s no logic there. This is my opinion,” he said.

I don’t think that William went into the mountains and informed Tsarnaev, ‘I am here and you can find me there.’ There’s no logic there. This is my opinion
Simon Shuster, a Time reporter who visited Utamysh, the village where William had lived, and where he lies buried in a simple graveyard, reported he had showed photos of Tsarnaev to locals but none had recognized him.

Boris Gitman, William’s former Toronto boxing coach, also knew nothing about Tsarnaev. He said he had checked the records of William’s bouts and found no indication the two had fought each other.

Despite the lack of evidence they met, Tsarnaev and William seemed to be on parallel paths. A talented boxing champion, William was born in Russia and immigrated to Canada with his parents at age 15. After high school, he went to Seneca College.

“My son wanted to serve in the military and we even went to a recruiting centre on Yonge Street,” Mr. Plotnikov said. William was keen on joining the special forces, he said. “And it turned out that he went into a special division, but to the mujahedeen [holy warriors].”


According to his father, William converted to Islam in 2009 after meeting a “radical” Toronto cleric. The Plotnikovs were in Florida when William left Canada in Sept. 2010. He initially stayed in Moscow with a friend who became alarmed by William’s hardline rhetoric.

When Mr. Plotnikov found out, he contacted Russian authorities, who raided the house in Dagestan where William was staying and told him to go home. The Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta, reported that during questioning, William named Tsarnaev as an online contact.

The Russians subsequently asked the FBI for more information about Tsarnaev, who was described as a “follower of radical Islam” who intended to “join unspecified underground groups” in Russia. But the FBI could find nothing linking him to terrorism and in January 2012, Tsarnaev flew to Moscow and made his way south to Dagestan.

My son wanted to serve in the military and we even went to a recruiting centre on Yonge Street. And it turned out that he went into a special division, but to the mujahedeen
That July, Russian forces engaged a group of armed Islamist fighters near Utamysh. All were killed, including William, who was felled by a bullet to the head. He was 23. Days later, Tsarnaev returned to the United States.

Mr. Plotnikov said police were making headway in their investigation into what happened to his son, but he did not know if arrests were coming. “They don’t tell me about their plans,” he said. “I know that there is progress and there is some success.”

He said Canadians needed to do more to flush out extremists. In Russia, he said, the authorities have informant networks, even within mosques. “And here in Canada more informers are needed at these places of gathering.”

The death has been hard on Mr. Plotnikov and his wife, a hard-working, educated and well-liked couple who cannot comprehend how this happened to their son in Canada, where they immigrated to give William a better future.

“Looking back, I regret that I didn’t sit down and ask him for information. I didn’t pay attention to that,” he said. “I thought, it’s like a usual thing, like a person got baptized. So a person became Muslim, what’s wrong? In a horrible dream I wouldn’t even think to see that, that my son, who I didn’t see even killing a fly, that he could take a gun and kill people.”

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More and more these "radical" Muslim Clerics are right in our back yard, they are up in Canada & Britain as well.

(04-26-2013, 07:06 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Mom thinks her family would be better off if she'd never brought her sons to 'effin America for a better life (you know, the kind of life where you can shoplift from department stores and then skip back to your home country, like she did).

Or receive $100,000 of governmental assitance just by coming to our shores.

Tsarnaev Family Received More Than $100,000 In Benefits, Boston Herald Reports

The extended family of the accused Boston Marathon bombers received more than $100,000 in public assistance through a variety of government programs, the Boston Herald reported.

The taxpayer-funded support for Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev and their relatives came in the form of food stamps, Section 8 housing vouchers and stipends ending in 2012, the report said.

Story

And in the aftermath of the Newtown shooting and subsequent rallying for additional gun control legislation, I find it odd LE has not released the type of weapons used by the douchbags or how they were obtained.

Odd.

They used an Obamaphone to set of the bombs. A government issued phone. Now I know Bush was giving them out also but.........Obama sells them x6 now.

(05-01-2013, 03:53 PM)BlueTiki Wrote: And in the aftermath of the Newtown shooting and subsequent rallying for additional gun control legislation, I find it odd LE has not released the type of weapons used by the douchbags or how they were obtained.

Odd.

Took a while, for sure.

Today, investigators are confirming that the bombs were built in the apartment of Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his wife (the wife who knows nothing about nothing). They have a small child who also lived in the apartment.

According to the reports, the brothers originally planned to execute the bombing on July 4^th, but they finished ahead of schedule. Industrious!

Amazing how quickly one can finish a project when there's no need to worry about working to pay for food and shelter.

(05-03-2013, 11:12 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Today, investigators are confirming that the bombs were built in the apartment of Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his wife (the wife who knows nothing about nothing). They have a small child who also lived in the apartment.

But still nothing about the firearm(s) or ammo they used in the shootout.

A minor and a non-citizen in possession of firearms and the anti-gun lobby (not to mention Obama and Biden) is silent?

FFS! They shot and killed a cop!

(05-03-2013, 12:21 PM)BlueTiki Wrote:

(05-03-2013, 11:12 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Today, investigators are confirming that the bombs were built in the apartment of Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his wife (the wife who knows nothing about nothing). They have a small child who also lived in the apartment.

But still nothing about the firearm(s) or ammo they used in the shootout.

A minor and a non-citizen in possession of firearms and the anti-gun lobby (not to mention Obama and Biden) is silent?

FFS! They shot and killed a cop!

Shit, I got so distracted with the bombs, that I really hadn't noticed the fact that NOTHING has been released about the guns. That is odd.

Separate notes from the latest reports:
-The family is planning an independent autopsy of Tamerlan Tsarnaev before he's buried.
-LE now has Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's laptop (turned over finally by one of his helpful friends).
-The July 4^th attack was to be a suicide bombing (I don't believe they ever intended to end their own lives).

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/02/us/boston-...index.html

Now it's the widow's laptop, then supposedly she telephoned her husband after the FBI released his photograph, all of this doesn't look good for her at all! did she or didn't she know? stuck in an apartment with him how could she not know? how radicalized was she?

Taken from Newser.com

Tamerlan's Widow Still Under Scrutiny
INVESTIGATORS FIND RADICAL MATERIAL ON HER LAPTOP

By John Johnson, Newser Staff
Posted May 4, 2013 9:34 AM CDT

(NEWSER) – Investigators say DNA found on a fragment of one of the Boston bombs is not a match with samples taken from the widow of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, reports NBC News. But that doesn't mean 24-year-old Katherine Russell is in the clear. In fact, authorities are "sharpening" their investigation of her, reports the Washington Post. Among the reasons: They found extremist material on her laptop, including al-Qaeda's Inspire magazine. What they don't know is whether she called up the material herself or whether her husband borrowed her computer to do so.

Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has told investigators that he and his brother built their bombs in Tamerlan's Cambridge apartment, which he shared with his wife and young daughter. Russell, who converted to Islam in 2009 and married Tamerlan the following year, is now staying with her parents in Rhode Island. She reportedly called her husband soon after the FBI released photos of the bombings suspects (initial reports suggested it was the other way around), but authorities still don't know what they said to each other. It's not helping her case that she didn't call police at that time. Also of note: Police are examining a section of woods near Dartmouth on the suspicion that the brothers tested explosives there.

News reporting that Tsarnaev family is unable to find a cemetery which will accept the dead bomber's body.

His body has been prepared for a Muslim burial, but it's been rejected by several cemeteries in Cambridge and the Boston area.

From local officials:

"The difficult and stressful efforts of the citizens of the city of Cambridge to return to a peaceful life would be adversely impacted by the turmoil, protests, and widespread media presence at such an interment," Cambridge city manager Bob Healy said in a statement provided to the Los Angeles Times. "The families of loved ones interred in the Cambridge Cemetery also deserve to have their deceased family members rest in peace."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/natio...6507.story

Hell, Just toss his sorry ass into the ocean.

So I am having a hard time determining what I would do if I saw my husband's photo on the news as a bomber. I'm not sure if I would call the police immediately or if I'd call him. I don't find it that odd that she called him after seeing him on the news.

Also, regarding the burial. I understand people not wanting to bury him but a burial really is for the family. I think that the family should get that closure, but couldn't they take him back to Russia and have a burial there?

Shit. I wouldn't have a hard time at all. I'm calling the man that is my husband, not the cops. So many people are outraged over that. I don't find it odd at all AND I can see bomb making going on and her not knowing about it. By all accounts she was working 80+ hours a week and she had a small child, I don't think it's a stretch to believe she wasn't aware.

I'm not defending her, I'm just saying I understand those two things, that is all.

I do think I might have a moment of "Fuck should I call the police, and at least tell them it's my husband" but my gut instinct would be to call him first. I don't find it hard to believe that she knew nothing about the bombs, and I hope that is the case. The thing that does bother me though is if they were making these bombs or had the tools to make them in a home with a small child!