There are very few things a human really needs. Food, water and oxygen are about all one really needs. Anything else would be a want.

I want to have shoes.

(06-23-2013, 05:41 PM)username Wrote: You don't really have the right to free speech. Try walking in to an airport yelling "allahu Akbar" and see what that gets you.

Not to mention libel, slander and inciting laws.

If Paula Deen truly had the right to free speech, she ought to be able to sue Food Network for wrongful termination.

ETA: n/m the part about Paula. They didn't fire her but instead chose not to renew her contract. There's still a point in there somewhere though.

"allahu Akbar" in an airport would be an interesting case... my guess is it would still be protected, although I can totally see the side of it that would have it fall into the 'inciting' bucket. Sort of like saying 'hijack' or 'bomb' in an airport... but at the end of the day, you DO have freedom of speech and it is protected by the 1^st amendment.

That said, our rights are not unlimited... for example you can't yell 'FIRE' in a crowded theater and claim 1^st amendment protection. Just like you can't own a machine gun or grenade launcher and claim 2^nd amendment protection.

From your Paula Deen example... what people usually fail to realize is that they limit their own rights in private sector business contracts. While the Food Network is choosing to not renew the contract, there was likely a 'moral turpitude' as well. Clauses like that restrict signatories, and they voluntarily give up rights that may enjoy otherwise. Brands have no interest in having staff running around saying NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER. I'm sure from your HR days you've come across some of these sorts of things...

(06-23-2013, 06:03 PM)F.U. Dont ask again Wrote: There are very few things a human really needs. Food, water and oxygen are about all one really needs. Anything else would be a want.

I would like to add shelter to that list. I feel I need that with my food, water, and oxygen.

I'll need a shoe rack.

(06-23-2013, 07:56 PM)Jimbone Wrote: From your Paula Deen example... what people usually fail to realize is that they limit their own rights in private sector business contracts. While the Food Network is choosing to not renew the contract, there was likely a 'moral turpitude' as well. Clauses like that restrict signatories, and they voluntarily give up rights that may enjoy otherwise. Brands have no interest in having staff running around saying NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER. I'm sure from your HR days you've come across some of these sorts of things...

I've never worked in an industry with a moral turpitude clause. What I do know is that the whole "at will" employer clause (we can fire you with or without notice, with or without cause) isn't worth the paper it's written on if an employee can prove discrimination.

If someone really wanted to pursue a suit based on their first amendment rights, they'd probably have a case regardless of any moral turpitude contract they might have signed.

I bet Food Network is offering Paula a big fat "go quietly in to the night" sum right now.

Hahaha. Paula and big fat in the same sentence.

So the federal bill is a fail, but a similar one for the state of Texas was just signed into law by Governor Rick Perry.

House Bill 2 prohibits the abortion of babies at 20 weeks gestation. The legislation also gives abortion providers one year, until Sept. 1, 2014, to update their abortion facilities in order to meet the same minimum safety standards as ambulatory surgical centers.

It also requires abortionists to have admitting privileges at a local hospital located within 30 miles of the abortion clinic, and that only physicians administer RU-486 in person, and adhere to FDA guidelines for the drug.
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Perry said today that everyone should consider the human impact of abortion, and noted that "new research and advanced technology give prematurely-born children a renewed chance at life, which should give us all pause as we argue the definition of viability."

Full story:
http://www.christianpost.com/news/perry-...ve-100397/