(02-22-2015, 12:56 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Speculation only: I think TPD suspected Ramirez was conspiring with the Clarkes before or immediately after shots were fired at Tiffany and that's why they didn't charge Maytee with assault initially. Ramirez was under investigation by Internal Affairs when he was arrested, according to Chief Kral during the press conference.

That makes great sense. Something happened to draw their attention to Ramirez. I would love to know what that was.

Johnny Clarke's mother calls county prosecutor's investigation lazy


http://www.nbc24.com/news/story.aspx?id=...OoLu_lQPIc


I hope they're not lazy in her court case. Her words are going to bite her in the ass

Her surviving sons want to go into law enforcement ....wonders how their view of the law is skewed.

(02-22-2015, 01:06 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: Johnny Clarke's mother calls county prosecutor's investigation lazy

She's such a fool, a super fool.

The county prosecutor is Judge Bates wife.

I've been reading many of the old posts. The unknown female's DNA was found on the tape used to bind them and on the inside of Johnny's sweatpants & sweatshirt. Isn't that weird.

Cam got six years for felony assault. That's what John & Maytee are charged with, right? Oh the irony.

Yeah, they're all charged with felony assault. It's not the first time for Ramirez to face an assault charge either.

So, Maytee thinks the prosecutors are lazy.

Ramirez, on the other hand, called them overly aggressive and out to get his badge when he was charged with domestic assault against his crackhead ex-girlfriend back in 2002. He was acquitted by the jury.
Ref: http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2002/04...harge.html

It sounds like the TPD leadership and prosecutors knew that Ramirez was a bad apple way back then.

For those that are unfamiliar with the court system, Ramirez and Maytee did NOT have their charges go away. It is procedure in Ohio that when a case is initiated in Municipal court, it must be dismissed or nollied to make it to the next step - a Grand Jury in a superior court such as Lucas County Common Pleas Court.

(02-22-2015, 03:02 PM)casual observer Wrote: For those that are unfamiliar with the court system, Ramirez and Maytee did NOT have their charges go away. It is procedure in Ohio that when a case is initiated in Municipal court, it must be dismissed or nollied to make it to the next step - a Grand Jury in a superior court such as Lucas County Common Pleas Court.

Are you aware of what is being said on the streets about the arrest of these three people? I'm curious to know if surprise is being expressed or if there are people who were aware that Ramirez was working with Maytee & John.

Honestly, I think that people are so apathetic in Toledo that NOTHING surprises us anymore.
And the fact that memories are short, maybe one or two years. A lot of people do not remember or even know of this case. We have this funky newspaper in town called The Blade, and most people quit reading it years ago.
As far as Ramirez, I never cared for him. He was the kind of cop that had power, knew it, and used it and abused it.
He is not the only dirty cop in Toledo, either.

(02-22-2015, 03:21 PM)casual observer Wrote: Honestly, I think that people are so apathetic in Toledo that NOTHING surprises us anymore.
And the fact that memories are short, maybe one or two years. A lot of people do not remember or even know of this case. We have this funky newspaper in town called The Blade, and most people quit reading it years ago.
As far as Ramirez, I never cared for him. He was the kind of cop that had power, knew it, and used it and abused it.
He is not the only dirty cop in Toledo, either.

Thanks!

It's sorta amazing to me that people wouldn't have more of a vested interest in their community. When people don't care it leaves room for bad shit to happen.

I don't believe this was ever posted a radio interview with maytee She says things I never heard before

http://hosts.blogtalkradio.com/thestreet...nd-lucinda

(02-22-2015, 07:02 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote: I don't believe this was ever posted a radio interview with maytee She says things I never heard before

http://hosts.blogtalkradio.com/thestreet...nd-lucinda

Here's info posted about the other murder maytee refers to in her radio interview .

http://mockforums.net/showthread.php?tid=9900

http://www.13abc.com/story/27805293/a-sp...-gone-cold

Maytee describing Sam, "He breaks into places and steals from people".

Pot, meet kettle!

Damn shame she didn't identify the officer who advised them to break down the door of the Straub's home...if that's true.

Somewhere in here I recently read a quote of Maytee's, she said something to the effect of Dt. K told her that AC, Tiff and others had something to do with the murders or that they knew something about them. I question that. I find it hard to believe an investigating officer would ever say that to any parent of a murdered child. Do any of you know if that's something they WOULD tell them?

(02-22-2015, 01:12 PM)Duchess Wrote:

I've been reading many of the old posts. The unknown female's DNA was found on the tape used to bind them and on the inside of Johnny's sweatpants & sweatshirt. Isn't that weird.

I wondered about that back when it was posted too...I could see if he was struggling, that his shirt would Come up etc. But his pants? Even if he wore them at the bottom of his rear end, that wouldn't happen. Could they have thought he had something hidden and checked? So weird...

(02-22-2015, 07:54 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Maytee describing Sam, "He breaks into places and steals from people".

Pot, meet kettle!

Damn shame she didn't identify the officer who advised them to break down the door of the Straub's home...if that's true.

I'd bet cash money it was ramirez.

(02-22-2015, 08:02 PM)Duchess Wrote:

Somewhere in here I recently read a quote of Maytee's, she said something to the effect of Dt. K told her that AC, Tiff and others had something to do with the murders or that they knew something about them. I question that. I find it hard to believe an investigating officer would ever say that to any parent of a murdered child. Do any of you know if that's something they WOULD tell them?

J L..... springfield twp dropped the ball in the beginning and TPD dropped the ball during the entire investigation! it was not taken seriously. One person was punished. Johnny was not a small guy. it took more than one person to hold him down, believe that! and also the person on the phone to lure him out of house while the others waited outside..disgusting and calculated crime.
Like · 1 · December 31, 2014 at 7:28am
Maytee La Cubana Vazquez ....Exactly J L and the pictures I always post is who detective Kozak said is involved. Plus Samuel Williams gave them a confession after conviction so why haven't they gone and arrested all these evil criminals?
Like · 1 · December 31, 2014 at 11:14am

Maytee La Cubana Vazquez The female is lying because i always post all her public records on line and the pictures I always post is who detective Kozak said is involved. Plus Samuel Williams gave them a confession after conviction so why haven't they gone and arrested all these evil criminals?
Like · Reply · 1 · December 31, 2014 at 11:15amMaytee La Cubana Vazquez My husband did not shoot at no heroin addict thief. The backpage . Com manipulator is mad that I have put all her public records online and also a digital recording from her confessions that she gave us on nov 27,2014. We don't have to explain ourselves to anyone but in all reality the police should be arresting her and everyone else detective Kozak told us is involved! Don't target the victims of victims.... Go after the real criminal murderers that took our son and gf from us.
Like · Reply · December 31, 2014 at 11:14am



this was maytees reply on new 11 facebook page log in to see all posts heresn is under a reply you click on https://www.facebook.com/wtol11/posts/10152481157086481

She's a liar. She's lying about Sam confessing. She's lying about John not shooting at Tiffany. She spent years lying about the reward money. She's a lying liar.

Maybe I should take the time to gather all her documented lies and post them along with her mugshots and arrest record.

Is anyone aware of a video taken with a cop's dashboard cam the night of the murders?

I find it really odd that Maytee and Tiffany are posting comments on sites while they have a case pending. Not sure their lawyers would approve.

Maytee has no self control nor dignity.