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		 (01-30-2016, 03:56 AM)koko Wrote:  I'm out of the loop. I can't believe all this.......well, I mean I can bc maytee & John are such shit bags....but it's crazy. Wow. Idiots. 
 Even though so many of us thought there was a chance of this happening it was still stunning when it actually did. I don't know if they are the dumbest people to walk the face of the earth but they sure rank up there. Fricken Maytee documented so many of her threats.
  
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		 (01-30-2016, 06:33 AM)Duchess Wrote:  ... I don't know if they are the dumbest people to walk the face of the earth but they sure rank up there. ...
 
 
That they do. 
 
Do you guys think we'll actually see a trial start this week? (I think I saw somebody say the date was set for February 5)
	 
	
	
	
		
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		I think the court date is still 2-5. I just scrolled through  a 193 page document  about cell phones. My impression  is that  Ramirez  doesn't want to use his cell phone as evidence.  193 PAGES  CELL PHONE STUFF.He must be concerned  about what was on his phone. Bad cop !!!!
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (01-31-2016, 03:00 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote:  He must be concerned  about what was on his phone. 
 Of course he is. Chances are it is going to show collusion between him and Maytee. I couldn't possibly know this but I think there is a very good chance it will show him conspiring with Maytee/John in regards to Tiffany.
 
 I'm psyched for this trial to start. It's been a long time coming.
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (01-31-2016, 07:04 AM)Duchess Wrote:   (01-31-2016, 03:00 AM)Older Than Dirt Wrote:  He must be concerned  about what was on his phone. 
 Of course he is. Chances are it is going to show collusion between him and Maytee. I couldn't possibly know this but I think there is a very good chance it will show him conspiring with Maytee/John in regards to Tiffany.
 
 I'm psyched for this trial to start. It's been a long time coming.
 
I thought I read he was questioning the GPS from his phone location. That it isn't reliable..I'm thinking it places him near the crime and it really was reliable    
	
	
	
		
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		 (01-31-2016, 03:33 PM)Butterfly Girl Wrote:  I thought I read he was questioning the GPS from his phone location. 
 I'm sure you're right. I was just taking a guess, pulling a thought from my butt, as it were.
   
	
	
	
		
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		Isn't today the anniversary date of the death of Lisa and Johnny? Can't believe it has been 5 years.....and only one person in prison for the crime.....
	 
	
	
	
		
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		 (01-31-2016, 04:09 PM)blueberryhill Wrote:  Isn't today the anniversary date of the death of Lisa and Johnny? 
 Close, but it was yesterday. I had to go back and look. It was January 30, 2011.
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (01-31-2016, 04:50 PM)Duchess Wrote:   (01-31-2016, 04:09 PM)blueberryhill Wrote:  Isn't today the anniversary date of the death of Lisa and Johnny? 
 Close, but it was yesterday. I had to go back and look. It was January 30, 2011.
 If I'm not mistaken it was the night of January 30th  into the early morning of January 31 when the bodies were found. So today January 31st  is the anniversary. Maytee has been very quiet on Facebook not sure if she has it set to private. I wonder if she's having a vigil at the grave site this evening. I haven't seen any press coverage in the Toledo area on this anniversary like we have in the past. I think Maytee has burned many bridges.
	 
	
	
	
		
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 Jesus. I'm on a fuckin' roll. I got that date from The Blade.
 
	
	
	
		
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		It's frustrating that there's no local reporter staying on top of the legal proceedings, not that I can tell anyway.
 Just checked again and  didn't see any indications in the Lucas Country court files to indicate a continuance of the Feb. 5 hearing/trial.
 
 I wonder if all three defendants will in fact be in court tomorrow at 9 a.m.
 
	
	
	
		
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		I know that one of our news channels has permission to be there and I'm sure the Blade will report on it.
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Thanks OTD.
 There's been very little media coverage in regards to the hearings and court docs since shortly after the arrests of the Clarkes and Ramirez.
 
 It's good to hear there will be first-hand media reporting once the trial gets started.
 
	
	
	
		
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		 (02-05-2016, 07:09 PM)Older Than Dirt Wrote:  Watch  WTOL if you can.. 
 Thanks, OTD! I went to their website. It looks like those flakes are asking for taxpayer money in order to pay witnesses. Seriously? Surely I misunderstand that. Ha! Nice to see you, sweetie.
  
 Attorneys for a former Toledo cop and two other men facing several charges, including attempted murder, have requested public money to pay for witnesses to testify on their behalf.
 
 The judge is questioning the request and has not made a ruling at this time.
 
 Public money is usually used for requests of this kind if the defendant cannot pay and is using a public defender. However, that is not the case with Frank Ramirez or John and Maytee Clarks who hired their own attorneys.
 
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		Pay for what kind of witnesses? Expert witnesses?
	 
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		 (02-05-2016, 07:47 PM)ramseycat Wrote:  Pay for what kind of witnesses? Expert witnesses? 
 I don't know. The article didn't elaborate, simply referred to them as "witnesses to testify on their behalf".
 
	
	
	
		
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		TOLEDO, OH (WTOL) - 
Attorneys for a former Toledo cop and two other men facing several charges, including attempted murder, have requested public money to pay for witnesses to testify on their behalf.
 
The judge is questioning the request and has not made a ruling at this time.
 
Public money is usually used for requests of this kind if the defendant cannot pay and is using a public defender. However, that is not the case with Frank Ramirez or John and Maytee Clarks who hired their own attorneys. 
 
Plans to use cell phone report in case withdrawn 
Defense claimed file ‘untrustworthy’ 
Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2016/0...c3OHUQU.99 
Judge Zmuda scheduled a hearing in the case for Feb. 26, saying he would like to set trial dates at that time.
 
What a bunch of shit! Will this show ever get on the road ?!?! I must say this case isn't getting very much media attention. WTOL is the news channel requesting to be at hearings. It doesn't seem to be making front page news.
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Meanwhile Maytee seems to be posting many "glamour" (I use this word lightly) shot selfies on her facebook page under name Maytee C Vazquez-Clarke. I'd post pictures but I don't know how to. That's probably a blessing for mockers eyes    |