(03-11-2014, 12:59 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I've been reading about this since Saturday morning, and I'm having a hard time pinning down exactly what I think happened. However, I'll list them in order of probabability:

1. Pilot suicide.

2. Hijacking, and plane is still intact somewhere (or crashed during struggle in cockpit).

3. Bomb explodes and plane disintegrates.

The fact that the Malaysian military is now saying they tracked this airliner WEST, for another hour after its transponder disappeared, leads me to believe either the pilot or co-pilot intentionally sabotaged the plane.

However, it could also indicate a hijacking. The whole thing is just hard to believe. The Iranians traveling with stolen passports certainly lend credence to the hijacking possibility.

The U. S. has been searching the Strait of Malacca since Day 1, so to me it would seem people behind the scenes know more than they're letting on.

2 years later and I'm once again proven to be a prognosticating genius.

People love to give me shit when I'm wrong but it's silent when I'm right.

In another post of mine a couple of days after this one, I actually wrote that the goal of the pilot was to have this plane 'disappear without a trace."

Waiting for a couple of pats on the back.

What the hell are you talking about, MS?

I wanna make sure I give you the appropriate number of back pats to match your level of prognosticating ingenuity.

Did the mystery of MH370 get solved or what?

Alright MS, you tease.

Looks like you're not gonna put out and clue me in. So, I did a few searches and see that a piece of MH370 may have been found in Mozambique.

I don't see how that ties into your multi-option theory. Still, I award you 1 back pat and 1 ass slap for making me look.

I would prefer two ass slaps instead of the backslap but that's just me yo!

(03-15-2016, 12:32 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Alright MS, you tease.

Looks like you're not gonna put out and clue me in. So, I did a few searches and see that a piece of MH370 may have been found in Mozambique.

I don't see how that ties into your multi-option theory. Still, I award you 1 back pat and 1 ass slap for making me look.

My #1 theory was pilot suicide.

No one is going to come out and acknowledge that definitively until the plane is found, least of all, the airlines.

However, you and I both know that the plane's transponder was turned off and somehow the plane turned due west, climbed to a ridiculous altitude, then dropped to less than 5K feet, then disappeared into the middle of the Indian Ocean.

Tell me how those acts could be the result of a catastrophic mechanical failure? Or even a hijacking? Certainly not a bomb.

This guy knew the 777 better than most pilots and his motive, I believe, is still tied to that relative of his being jailed by the Malaysian government.

I'd be willing to bet bare-assed spankings that I'm right.

Well..............let me get this straight.

If you're right, you get to give bare-assed spankings. If you're wrong, you get to receive bare-assed spankings.

Do I have that right, Rockord?

(03-10-2016, 11:47 AM)Midwest Spy Wrote:

(03-11-2014, 12:59 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: I've been reading about this since Saturday morning, and I'm having a hard time pinning down exactly what I think happened. However, I'll list them in order of probabability:

1. Pilot suicide.

2. Hijacking, and plane is still intact somewhere (or crashed during struggle in cockpit).

3. Bomb explodes and plane disintegrates.

The fact that the Malaysian military is now saying they tracked this airliner WEST, for another hour after its transponder disappeared, leads me to believe either the pilot or co-pilot intentionally sabotaged the plane.

However, it could also indicate a hijacking. The whole thing is just hard to believe. The Iranians traveling with stolen passports certainly lend credence to the hijacking possibility.

The U. S. has been searching the Strait of Malacca since Day 1, so to me it would seem people behind the scenes know more than they're letting on.

2 years later and I'm once again proven to be a prognosticating genius.

People love to give me shit when I'm wrong but it's silent when I'm right.

In another post of mine a couple of days after this one, I actually wrote that the goal of the pilot was to have this plane 'disappear without a trace."

Waiting for a couple of pats on the back.

So out of all the variable possibilities of a plane vanishing you ruled out; Teleportation into a different dimension; Alien abduction; Divine intervention and an evil mastermind's plot to take over the world. Well done MS, well done indeed.

BG, my guesses were made before anyone knew anything.

I just used my incredible insight to conclude, first and foremost, that modern airliners simply don't crash and/or disappear.

As with the Germanwings flight last March, a pilot was the reason the Malaysian flight went down.

(03-15-2016, 06:41 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Well..............let me get this straight.

If you're right, you get to give bare-assed spankings. If you're wrong, you get to receive bare-assed spankings.

Do I have that right, Rockord?

Yes Beth, you're right.

Remember, you're actually fond of me, so this scenario shouldn't seem weird.

(03-15-2016, 07:19 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: BG, my guesses were made before anyone knew anything.

I just used my incredible insight to conclude, first and foremost, that modern airliners simply don't crash and/or disappear.

As with the Germanwings flight last March, a pilot was the reason the Malaysian flight went down.

Doesn't hurt that hijacking, bomb or deliberate crash have the highest probability when a plane goes missing like this so again... Well done MS. *pats MS on the back*

(03-15-2016, 07:25 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:

(03-15-2016, 07:19 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: BG, my guesses were made before anyone knew anything.

I just used my incredible insight to conclude, first and foremost, that modern airliners simply don't crash and/or disappear.

As with the Germanwings flight last March, a pilot was the reason the Malaysian flight went down.

Doesn't hurt that hijacking, bomb or deliberate crash have the highest probability when a plane goes missing like this so again... Well done MS. *pats MS on the back*

Thanks.

Some are still not convinced it was pilot suicide, so again, thanks for acknowledging my prowess.

(03-15-2016, 02:34 AM)BigMark Wrote: I would prefer two ass slaps instead of the backslap but that's just me yo!

Two ass slaps for you is fair; you've been right at least twice that I can recall.

You were right about NFL helmet construction and right about not leaving loaded guns in the reach of children.

So............drop 'em (or toss on your assless chaps) and bend over. MS is looking to administer some bare-assed slappings and he's just around the bend.

(03-15-2016, 07:30 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:

(03-15-2016, 07:25 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote:

(03-15-2016, 07:19 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: BG, my guesses were made before anyone knew anything.

I just used my incredible insight to conclude, first and foremost, that modern airliners simply don't crash and/or disappear.

As with the Germanwings flight last March, a pilot was the reason the Malaysian flight went down.

Doesn't hurt that hijacking, bomb or deliberate crash have the highest probability when a plane goes missing like this so again... Well done MS. *pats MS on the back*

Thanks.

Some are still not convinced it was pilot suicide, so again, thanks for acknowledging my prowess.

I think one has to acknowledge brilliance in his fellow man.

(03-15-2016, 07:21 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote:

(03-15-2016, 06:41 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Well..............let me get this straight.

If you're right, you get to give bare-assed spankings. If you're wrong, you get to receive bare-assed spankings.

Do I have that right, Rockord?

Yes Beth, you're right.

Remember, you're actually fond of me, so this scenario shouldn't seem weird.

Well, that acknowledgement is enough for me. I'll forego the earned ass slap.

And, you're right too. You bet I'm fond of you.

MS mental translation: ' And, you're right boo. You bet I wanna fondle you.'

Another Missing Commercial Plane -- Airbus A320, Egypt Air Flight MS804


^ Image source: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-eas...t-36333664

It's becoming all too common.

Flight 804's sudden drop in altitude -- from 37,000 feet to 10,000 feet -- and its 360-degree turn -- happened this morning before the flight went off the radar.

The flight left Paris headed to Egypt and started descending rapidly shortly after leaving Greek air space and being transferred to Egyptian air traffic control.

The passengers and crew totaled 66 and included 30 Egyptians, 15 French and two Canadians, as well as people from Algeria, Belgium, Britain, Chad, Iraq, Kuwait, Portugal, Saudi Arabia and Sudan.

Three children were on board, including two infants, EgyptAir Vice Chairman Ahmed Adel said. He said the passenger manifest will not be released until relatives have been notified.

Egyptian officials have indicated that they believe the airplane and its passengers were more likely victims of terrorism than a technical malfunction.

Earlier today, there were reports of wreckage being found in the Mediterranean Sea, but those were determined to be false.

Story and live updates: http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/19/middleeast...-liveblog/

I dunno know...terrorism doesn't sound right to me....don't they usually come right out and take credit for something like this.

In most accidents, they first gather pieces of wreckage and when possible, pull up from ocean floor, put the transportation investigators on the job, do all that before determining cause of the crash....I think it more likely was a mechanical issue....seems a bit premature to be announcing it was terrorism, but what do I know.

I try to watch the program "Airline Disasters." It is not presently in my TV package, but I am fascinated by the National Transportation Accident teams they send to all sites which involve American citizens....Greg Fieth might be retired now but he is an excellent investigator...side note: he is very nice looking and is or was married to anchor lady on CBS news channel in Denver......that was back in 2006.

Anyway, they have to issue final accident report which goes out to public, etc...I can find accident reports now online on flights where I have lost friends due to crashes...Nov 55 (no friend, but parked next to airplane which exploded from bomb after takeoff over Longmont, Co, April 62, and June 62.....United, Flying Tiger and Continental Airlines.....They have to assign blame or responsibility to either pilot error, aircraft malfunction, terrorism, etc.....There is a particular instance a few years ago, when it was the CAB who oversaw these investigations and they submitted a report which the AAPA did not agree with which is unusual but occasionally you get crappy investigators, too....

Airbus A320 Has Flaw in Rudder System


http://www.bvatriallaw.com/2010/08/08/ai...history-2/

I hope this turns out to be an airplane malfunction or pilot error or anything other than terrorism.

Wreckage and Remains Located

Egypt said on Friday its navy had found human remains, wreckage and the personal belongings of passengers floating in the Mediterranean, confirmation that an EgyptAir jet had plunged into the sea with 66 people on board.

President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi offered condolences for those on board, amounting to Egypt’s official acknowledgement of their deaths, although there was still no explanation of why the Airbus had crashed.

“The Egyptian navy was able to retrieve more debris from the plane, some of the passengers’ belongings, human remains, and plane seats,” the Civil Aviation Ministry said in a statement.

The navy was searching an area about 290 km (180 miles) north of the port city of Alexandria, just south of where the signal from the plane was lost early on Thursday.

There was no sign of the bulk of the wreckage, or of a location signal from the “black box” flight recorders.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/egyp...cc9a709ec2
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Blueberry made some good points, but I'm going to wait for Midwest Spy's analysis before forming an opinion about the cause of the crash.

Everyone knows my first instinct is to suspect the pilot(s).

Planes just don't crash unless some extreme event has happened.

I'm guessing a cre member.