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THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY
It's not $450 anymore?
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(01-28-2017, 07:51 PM)Duchess Wrote: 52

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Seriously? That's what adoption is for.
I'm shocked I even had to tell you that.
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(01-28-2017, 09:32 PM)sally Wrote: If Pro-choice wants the government to fund PP which makes abortion easily accessible, it's only fair that the pro-lifers who consider abortion murder ask that the government have no hand in it, which means not funding organizations that provide abortions.


The government does not fund abortions.
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(01-29-2017, 01:16 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote: Seriously? That's what adoption is for.
I'm shocked I even had to tell you that.


Yes, seriously. Jesus Christ. You're one of the people I referred to when I said you only care about the birth, not about what comes before and not about what comes after. Your personal opinion on it is sickening.

What part of, it's not your business, don't you understand? If you're still struggling, I'll try to clarify even more.
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(01-29-2017, 05:54 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 01:16 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote: Seriously? That's what adoption is for.
I'm shocked I even had to tell you that.


Yes, seriously. Jesus Christ. You're one of the people I referred to when I said you only care about the birth, not about what comes before and not about what comes after. Your personal opinion on it is sickening.

What part of, it's not your business, don't you understand? If you're still struggling, I'll try to clarify even more.

If and when you ever get pregnant and need to make a choice get back with me. Until then, you have no motherfucking idea how hard that decision is and you never will, so shit your fucking piehole about something you know NOTHING about other than what other people tell you!!

I think the fact that you think it's okay to kill innocent babies because the mother is to fucking irresponsible to take care of it before it's even an issue is sickening on your part...and I'm not talking about rape and medical conditions abortions.
I just fucking love it when some bitch that's never even had a kid trys to school me on the way I think and tells me I'M wrong and the way I think is sickening...hahaha!

I had a baby at 30 I chose to put up for adoption.

When YOU have to sit around for weeks, going back and forth with the hardest decision you'll EVER have to make in your life, get back with me, you know NOTHING condecending bitch!!
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Hehe. You mad.
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(01-29-2017, 05:50 AM)Duchess Wrote:
(01-28-2017, 09:32 PM)sally Wrote: If Pro-choice wants the government to fund PP which makes abortion easily accessible, it's only fair that the pro-lifers who consider abortion murder ask that the government have no hand in it, which means not funding organizations that provide abortions.


The government does not fund abortions.

Yes I know that, but the government funds PP for other services which allows them to be the largest abortion providers in the country. The pro-choice is ok with the government being involved when it benefits their cause, which is convenient access to abortion. Therefore the pro-life has a say that they don't want their tax dollars contributing indirectly to what they feel is murder.
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Another day, another shit show from this administration.
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That's not shit, its chocolate!
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(01-29-2017, 01:36 PM)BigMark Wrote: That's not shit, its chocolate!


...and I'm Betty Crocker. Sarcastic
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(01-29-2017, 11:13 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote: When YOU have to sit around for weeks, going back and forth with the hardest decision you'll EVER have to make in your life, get back with me, you know NOTHING condecending bitch!!

I know how difficult making such a decision can be, FAHQTOO, and I admire your strength and passion (always have).

But, I'm glad that you had a choice to make. That's what it's all about, for me. YOU made a choice based on the circumstances of your life, your beliefs, your morals... a choice that was best for YOU. I'm glad that the decision wasn't taken out of your hands and determined by the opinions, beliefs, and morals of strangers and politicians.

I respect your ability and the ability of other women/couples to make their own difficult choices, including those who choose not to bring another child into this world if they are not personally able/willing to carry and raise the child responsibly.

I wouldn't have considered you 'wrong', 'immoral', or a 'murderer' if you'd made a different choice, but that's irrelevant. You made the choice that you determined was best for you. I believe that other women/couples should have the same right to choose as you did when confronted with an unplanned pregnancy, even if their choice is different than yours. Their choice should not be relegated to strangers and the government either, in my opinion.

Don't pummel me! Run1
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(01-29-2017, 02:10 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 11:13 AM)FAHQTOO Wrote: When YOU have to sit around for weeks, going back and forth with the hardest decision you'll EVER have to make in your life, get back with me, you know NOTHING condecending bitch!!

I know how difficult making such a decision can be, FAHQTOO, and I admire your strength and passion (always have).

But, I'm glad that you had a choice to make. That's what it's all about, for me. YOU made a choice based on the circumstances of your life, your beliefs, your morals... a choice that was best for YOU. I'm glad that the decision wasn't taken out of your hands and determined by the opinions, beliefs, and morals of strangers and politicians.

I respect your ability and the ability of other women/couples to make their own difficult choices, including those who choose not to bring another child into this world if they are not personally able/willing to carry and raise the child responsibly.

I wouldn't have considered you 'wrong', 'immoral', or a 'murderer' if you'd made a different choice, but that's irrelevant. You made the choice that you determined was best for you. I believe that other women/couples should have the same right to choose as you did when confronted with an unplanned pregnancy, even if their choice is different than yours. Their choice should not be relegated to strangers and the government either, in my opinion.

Don't pummel me! Run1

Hair is much more polite than I am....you made a choice and that is the whole point and why you don't understand that, is a mystery to me.You attack people below the belt, `you say really mean and hateful things to those who don't agree with you. As you, yourself, have said many times, we each have a story, but that doesn't mean you turn into the devil when someone disagrees with you, you are (based on your posts) very judgmental.....I don't give a damn, but quit putting me down for my beliefs and experiences and try listening for a change. Calling people names and the things you just posted are downright mean and hateful.....do you understand that you do not have the right to shove your views down our throats but each of us here on Mock, have the right to express our views without being bullied....yes, being mocked is allowed, but you are a bully IMO. Our rights to free speech are still intact, thus far so quit being such a raging bull in your comments. You had a choice which many women didn't have when I was younger....be thankful for the rights you have and at least acknowledge those women who came before you who made that possible.
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(01-29-2017, 01:33 PM)Duchess Wrote: Another day, another shit show from this administration.

Even Piers Morgan, who usually has his tongue all the way up his ex-mentor and friend Donald Trump's ass, is criticizing the details and execution of the entry ban. I think you'll actually agree with much of what that twit wrote in his column today.

He questions the logic of leaving Saudi Arabia and UAE off the list, the inclusion of green-card holders (they are indeed affected, though they will be detained and reviewed, not necessarily deported), and the fact that Trump sucked up to the NRA and opposes new gun controls even though more Americans were killed at home by toddlers with guns last year than by terrorists.

Here's his piece: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...n-ban.html
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(01-29-2017, 04:55 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Here's his piece: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...n-ban.html


I saw that earlier and you're right, I did agree. I don't think I've ever said that in regards to Piers. Smiley_emoticons_skeptisch

I was just reading that CBP agents are defying federal orders. Congressman Beyer posted that some Congressmen were turned away by CBP and now there is talk of bringing in federal marshals to enforce the law. Ugh. Federal marshals, constitutional crisis, so many people across the country are out there protesting again today. I look forward to watching this all play out.
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(01-29-2017, 02:28 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: do you understand that you do not have the right to shove your views down our throats but each of us here on Mock, have the right to express our views without being bullied....

Can you quote where she shoved her views down your baby killing throat in this thread? Oh yeah she didn't. She only posted her own personal experience which she shouldn't have done.
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I have no objection to President Trump's extreme vetting concept, including temporary halts in processing new visas and refugee applications AS LONG AS the purpose, criteria, and execution are constitutional, well-defined and justified.

Senators McCain and Graham's joint statement today sums up exactly how I feel about the Executive Order Trump signed on Friday.

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Unfortunately, Trump responded predictably. He accused the senior senators of "trying to start World War III", which makes no sense, but whatever.

One move in the right direction -- it appears that the White House has been moved to remove green-card holders from the Executive Order altogether (unless they change their minds again).
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(01-29-2017, 07:21 PM)sally Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 02:28 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: do you understand that you do not have the right to shove your views down our throats but each of us here on Mock, have the right to express our views without being bullied....

Can you quote where she shoved her views down your baby killing throat in this thread? Oh yeah she didn't. She only posted her own personal experience which she shouldn't have done.

I am not going to quote shit....you can't recall what you have said, let alone someone else.....now it is "my baby killing throat." Can't seem to get you off this subject...Beat_deadhorse Go pester someone else, will you?
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(01-29-2017, 08:16 PM)blueberryhill Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 07:21 PM)sally Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 02:28 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: do you understand that you do not have the right to shove your views down our throats but each of us here on Mock, have the right to express our views without being bullied....

Can you quote where she shoved her views down your baby killing throat in this thread? Oh yeah she didn't. She only posted her own personal experience which she shouldn't have done.

I am not going to quote shit....you can't recall what you have said, let alone someone else.....now it is "my baby killing throat." Can't seem to get you off this subject...Beat_deadhorse Go pester someone else, will you?

It's only a dead horse to you because you can't back up your words that F2 shoved her views down anyone's throat in this thread. She didn't. Sorry to pester you, but you're talking out of your senile old ass.

All she did was post a personal experience after Duchess said her opinions on abortion were sickening. From that she got a hollow lecture about choices from HotD, a sarcastic remark from Duchess because she didn't know what else to say and a bunch of insane shit from you accusing her of things she never said.
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FAHQTOO got no lecture from me, hollow or otherwise, sal.

She got admiration and an explanation of why I respect other people's choices, as I do her's. The fact that FAHQTOO chose to share a personal experience (which I don't think was wrong of her) doesn't mean that the discussion/debate is over.

So, to borrow from FAHQTOO...shit your piehole, sal.
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(01-29-2017, 08:35 PM)sally Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 08:16 PM)blueberryhill Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 07:21 PM)sally Wrote:
(01-29-2017, 02:28 PM)blueberryhill Wrote: do you understand that you do not have the right to shove your views down our throats but each of us here on Mock, have the right to express our views without being bullied....

Can you quote where she shoved her views down your baby killing throat in this thread? Oh yeah she didn't. She only posted her own personal experience which she shouldn't have done.

Oh, Sally, we all know you are witty and funny, but some of your views seem to be anti-women as well as some other women here on Mock....I don't agree with your views so quit going around in circles. You will never


I am not going to quote shit....you can't recall what you have said, let alone someone else.....now it is "my baby killing throat." Can't seem to get you off this subject...Beat_deadhorse Go pester someone else, will you?

It's only a dead horse to you because you can't back up your words that F2 shoved her views down anyone's throat in this thread. She didn't. Sorry to pester you, but you're talking out of your senile old ass.

All she did was post a personal experience after Duchess said her opinions on abortion were sickening. From that she got a hollow lecture about choices from HotD, a sarcastic remark from Duchess because she didn't know what else to say and a bunch of insane shit from you accusing her of things she never said.

I had already written a couple of sentences and they disappeared..oh well, I am senile as you keep pointing out (and I do also)....try not to take yourself so seriously..I like you better when you are witty and funny, but many of your comments along with F2's seem somewhat anti-women..Maybe you should organize a March in your community against baby killers as you so self- righteously call pro-choice proponents....I don't give a shit what u do, just quit beating Beat_deadhorse

I think someone once posted you are like a dog with a bone...you just won't let it go...I don't want to hear anymore of your antiquated views about eliminating rights of women....Oh, you didn't say that, but your comments reflect that view....I think I would worry more about the bullshit coming out of your ass rather than worrying about my senile ass.....allow me to say I have never had any complaints about my ass before now....
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