(03-01-2017, 03:15 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I've grown to hate the word 'pivot'.

You're not alone. I've heard it more in the past year than I had ever heard it in my entire life combined.

Clang's been the 'pivot-man' a time or two, I guarantee it.

You can ask him what it means.

(03-01-2017, 04:07 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Clang's been the 'pivot-man' a time or two, I guarantee it.

You can ask him what it means.

Well I did march in my high school band.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pivot+man

Oh dear. AG Jeff Sessions has been caught lying under oath about the Russians. Ahahaha! Almost everyday there is a new and wonderful fuck up pertaining to this administration.

(03-01-2017, 04:07 PM)Midwest Spy Wrote: Clang's been the 'pivot-man' a time or two, I guarantee it.

You can ask him what it means.

The executive orders to advance women in STEM was a pretty badass move. You probably won't hear much about that though because it's a good thing for women and there wasn't any pussy grabbing going on.

https://www.cnet.com/news/trump-women-in...tech-laws/

The media is busy bitching about Trump's toilet paper coming from the back instead of the front.

Haha. Yeah, because there is nothing to the AG for the United States perjuring himself before Congress. Alrighty then.

(03-02-2017, 10:02 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: The executive orders to advance women in STEM was a pretty badass move. You probably won't hear much about that though because it's a good thing for women and there wasn't any pussy grabbing going on.

https://www.cnet.com/news/trump-women-in...tech-laws/

The STEM and INSPIRE programs were not passed by Executive Order, Gunnar. President Trump had nothing to do with their creation. They were products of the bi-partisan House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology and introduced by Representative Barbara Comstock in early 2016.

President Trump simply signed the bills passed by both houses of Congress. It would not have made any sense for Trump to veto those bills, politically or business-wise, of course. So, he signed them -- nothing badass about that. It's a job requirement and he'll be doing a whole lot of it while he's in the Oval Office.

I support the STEM and INSPIRE programs aimed at getting girls and women more interested in mathematics fields, aerospace, technology... Women are under-represented in those fields, and businesses in those industries often sponsor work visas to get the talent they need from other countries due to a shortage of Americans (men and women) with the needed education and skills.

Anyway, I'll give Trump credit where due; not credit for something other people did without his involvement. STEM and INSPIRE are not, in any way, Trump's doing. But, I'll give him points for providing the programs more public exposure by praising them when he called a press conference, flanked by his daughter and wife, and made a photo opp out of signing the bills into law. Good PR for him, good PR for the programs, and hopefully the programs will be effective in inspiring girls and women to pursue science and technology education and careers. Win/win/win.

FYI: President Obama signed the original STEM bill into law in 2015. https://www.aip.org/fyi/2015/president-s...n-bill-law

(03-02-2017, 12:09 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(03-02-2017, 10:02 AM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: The executive orders to advance women in STEM was a pretty badass move. You probably won't hear much about that though because it's a good thing for women and there wasn't any pussy grabbing going on.

https://www.cnet.com/news/trump-women-in...tech-laws/

The STEM and INSPIRE programs were not passed by Executive Order, Gunnar. President Trump had nothing to do with their creation. They were products of the bi-partisan House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology and introduced by Representative Barbara Comstock in early 2016.

President Trump simply signed the bills passed by both houses of Congress. It would not have made any sense for Trump to veto those bills, politically or business-wise, of course. So, he signed them -- nothing badass about that. It's a job requirement and he'll be doing a whole lot of it while he's in the Oval Office.

I support the STEM and INSPIRE programs aimed at getting girls and women more interested in mathematics fields, aerospace, technology... Women are under-represented in those fields, and businesses in those industries often sponsor work visas to get the talent they need from other countries due to a shortage of Americans (men and women) with the needed education and skills.

Anyway, I'll give Trump credit where due; not credit for something other people did without his involvement. STEM and INSPIRE are not, in any way, Trump's doing. But, I'll give him points for providing the programs more public exposure by praising them when he called a press conference, flanked by his daughter and wife, and made a photo opp out of signing the bills into law. Good PR for him, good PR for the programs, and hopefully the programs will be effective in inspiring girls and women to pursue science and technology education and careers. Win/win/win.

President Obama signed the original STEM bill in 2015. https://www.aip.org/fyi/2015/president-s...n-bill-law

Yeah, they're laws now. My bad. I'm just so used to seeing anything he signed cause a public uproar via executive order. I still think he should have grabbed some pussy in order to keep up appearances.

(03-02-2017, 12:23 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: Yeah, they're laws now. My bad. I'm just so used to seeing anything he signed cause a public uproar via executive order. I still think he should have grabbed some pussy in order to keep up appearances.

Hilarious, Gunnar. These two programs are designed to inspire and elevate women's education and career opportunities. But, to deflect from your own ignorance on the process and Trump's level of involvement, you make a point of objectifying women and projecting that onto Trump's past behavior. Sad!

I remember you going apeshit over how Executive Orders/Actions, according to you, are unconstitutional when President Obama signed one a couple of years back. You didn't know what the fuck you were talking about then either.

Here's some educational material which could be helpful to you when it comes to understanding the difference between bills, laws, and EOs:

(03-02-2017, 12:43 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(03-02-2017, 12:23 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: Yeah, they're laws now. My bad. I'm just so used to seeing anything he signed cause a public uproar via executive order. I still think he should have grabbed some pussy in order to keep up appearances.

Hilarious, Gunnar. These two programs are designed to inspire and elevate women's education and career opportunities. But, to deflect from your own ignorance on the process and Trump's level of involvement, you make a point of objectifying women and projecting that onto Trump's past behavior. Sad!

I remember you going apeshit over how Executive Orders/Actions, according to you, are unconstitutional when President Obama signed one a couple of years back. You didn't know what the fuck you were talking about then either.

Here's some educational material which could be helpful to you when it comes to understanding the difference between bills, laws, and EOs:

Yes I actually did. Still feel the same way. If you're here illegally and your drunk driving, Border patrol should absolutely be within their aegis to detain your flakey ass.

That doesn't have anything to do with the subject of the Executive Action you were protesting a couple of years back, Gunnar, nor anything to do with your false argument about the unconstitutionality of the Executive (the President) invoking such actions which don't require congressional approval.

It was your right to protest EA/EOs signed by Obama, and it's your right to praise those signed by Trump. Just like it's other people's right to protest EA/EOs signed by Trump when they disagree with the content. But, invoking an EA/EO, in and of itself, is not an unconstitutional act by one President and a constitutional act by another depending on whether you, Gunnar, feel favorable towards the President or the content of the EA/EO.

If there was a School House Rock piece on hypocrisy, I'd post it for you so you could better understand how your contradictions come across. But, there's not, so you're on your own, bro.

(03-02-2017, 01:04 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: That doesn't have anything to do with the subject of the Executive Action you were protesting a couple of years back, Gunnar, nor anything to do with your false argument about the unconstitutionality of the Executive (the President) invoking such actions which don't require congressional approval.

It was your right to protest EA/EOs signed by Obama, and it's your right to praise those signed by Trump. Just like it's other people's right to protest EA/EOs signed by Trump when they disagree with the content. But, invoking an EA/EO, in and of itself, is not an unconstitutional act by one President and a constitutional act by another depending on whether you, Gunnar, feel favorable towards the President or the content of the EA/EO.

If there was a School House Rock piece on hypocrisy, I'd post it for you so you could better understand how your contradictions come across. But, there's not, so you're on your own, bro.

I just think little girls should feel as though they have as much of a chance to be a scientist as a little boy does. You seem to take issue with that. It's your right to protest it if you wish.

(03-02-2017, 02:15 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: I just think little girls should feel as though they have as much of a chance to be a scientist as a little boy does. You seem to take issue with that. It's your right to protest it if you wish.

Doofus.


No, you gave Trump credit for an Executive Order (which you previously insisted were unconstitutional) when he instead simply signed a Congressional bill into law and had no part in developing the legislation.

And, you failed to comprehend my very clear response to your original ignorant post, or you're just lamely lying/deflecting again -- as I said, I support STEM and INSPIRE. I supported those initiatives before Trump was even a serious candidate.

(03-02-2017, 03:37 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(03-02-2017, 02:15 PM)Blindgreed1 Wrote: I just think little girls should feel as though they have as much of a chance to be a scientist as a little boy does. You seem to take issue with that. It's your right to protest it if you wish.

Doofus.


No, you gave Trump credit for an Executive Order (which you previously insisted were unconstitutional) when he instead simply signed a Congressional bill into law and had no part in developing the legislation.

And, you failed to comprehend my very clear response to your original ignorant post, or you're just lamely lying/deflecting again -- as I said, I support STEM and INSPIRE. I supported those initiatives before Trump was even a serious candidate.

And you ignorantly blew right by my point, which is this is a good thing, but you're not going to hear much about good things through the media.

I didn't blow by it, I acknowledged that it was a good thing three times now. Reading is fundamental Gunnar; give it a try sometime.

And, the media covered it, obviously, or else I wouldn't have seen him on the news signing the bill into law with his wife and daughter at his side, and you wouldn't have had a link to post.

But, it's not new and it's not President Trump's doing, so neither the media nor I are falsely taking the credit from the House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology and Representative Barbara Comstock and sucking Trump's ass about it -- you're the only one doing that.

I'd say quit while you're behind, ignoramus, but you won't. You'll just keep digging yourself a deeper hole, as usual.

(03-02-2017, 11:26 AM)Duchess Wrote: Haha. Yeah, because there is nothing to the AG for the United States perjuring himself before Congress. Alrighty then.

I'm not sure if he perjured himself. I think the Democrats' call for him to resign based on that assumption is premature, personally.

But, Sessions definitely failed to disclose during his Senate confirmation hearing that he had twice met with the Russian ambassador while he was active in the Trump for President campaign, even though Senator Franken asked him a related question. Maybe he was just conducting his normal senatorial business during those meetings and didn't associate it with the campaign at all. I'm sure his meetings will be investigated as part of the broader investigation though, as they should be.

In any case, I was happy to read today that Attorney General Sessions recused himself from all investigations into Trump campaign contacts with Russia -- talk about conflict of interest. The recusal was a no-brainer and should have been done sooner, in my opinion, if the goal is truth and transparency without bias.

Sessions had previously said that he wasn't planning to recuse himself and President Trump said that Sessions shouldn't recuse himself. The pressure from Democrats and several of his fellow Republicans worked -- good.

This could turn out to be a LONG 4 Years!

Here's looking up your molotov cocktail!

I mean, it would be rude of me to not check in and say hello to my communist friends. Bottoms up Bolshoviks!