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Bill Cosby has been found guilty of sexual assault and is confined with GPS monitor awaiting sentencing in September.
Morgan Freeman has been accused of sexual abuse by 8 women so far -- VISA just dropped him as their spokesperson.
And, Harvey Weinstein, the creep who motivated the MeToo movement, is finally facing criminal charges (95 women are on record accusing him of rape, sexual misconduct, and other sex-related crimes). He is also reportedly under investigation for financial crimes.
A source familiar with the investigation told CNN the criminal sex act charge against Weinstein was from a case involving aspiring actress Lucia Evans, who alleges Weinstein forced her to perform oral sex on him in his Tribeca office in 2004. The alleged victim in the rape case has not been publicly identified, the source said.
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Harvey Weinstein was arraigned today on charges of first- and third-degree rape and committing a criminal sexual act in the first degree, seven months after women began to come forward with stories alleging sexual misconduct by the famed Hollywood producer.
The criminal charges filed Friday stem from incidents with two separate women in 2013 and 2004, the Manhattan district attorney said in a statement, and were the result of a joint investigation between police and the Manhattan DA's office.
"Mr. Weinstein has always maintained that he has never engaged in non-consensual sexual behavior with anyone. Nothing about today's proceedings changes Mr. Weinstein's position. He has entered a plea of not guilty and fully expects to be exonerated," defense attorney Benjamin Brafman said in a statement after the arraignment.
Brafman plans to defend his client by claiming bad behavior and the casting couch were not invented by Weinstein and that's all his client is guilty of.
As part of the agreement between Brafman and the DA's office, Weinstein's bond was set at $10 million. He'll be required to wear a GPS monitoring system and is only allowed to travel within New York state or Connecticut. He also surrendered his passport.
More charges are expected as a grand jury continues to hear testimony in the state's case with at least four women expected to testify, the source said.
Story: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/25/entertain...index.html
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Morgan Freeman has been caught up in the sexual touchy feely syndrome. One of the most powerful guys in Hollywood, I would even say that he may be the number one influence there. I wonder who is number 2 and 3. It's a movement, watch out Hollywood!
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I'm not sure I'm going to be able to articulate this well enough and it's going to come across as defending these guys. I'm not! No means no. Period. However, I think there are degrees of it. I've dealt with some and it was never anything that I wanted to ruin someone's life over. I've said this badly. *cringe*
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(05-25-2018, 02:56 PM)Duchess Wrote: I'm not sure I'm going to be able to articulate this well enough and it's going to come across as defending these guys. I'm not! No means no. Period. However, I think there are degrees of it. I've dealt with some and it was never anything that I wanted to ruin someone's life over. I've said this badly. *cringe*
I think you articulated it well and most people probably feel the same way; only the extremists on the subject appear to view it differently. There are definitely different degrees of severity.
A man who's just a pervy creep -- always leering, constant sexual innuendo, inappropriately touching, grabbing, pinching -- is one thing. It's not a crime and shouldn't be put in the same category as rape, sexual harassment and job threatening in the work place, drugging and sexually abusing people, molestation...
Harvey Weinstein and Al Franken's actions, for example, fall into very different categories of sexual misconduct. In my opinion.
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(05-25-2018, 04:52 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: (05-25-2018, 02:56 PM)Duchess Wrote: I'm not sure I'm going to be able to articulate this well enough and it's going to come across as defending these guys. I'm not! No means no. Period. However, I think there are degrees of it. I've dealt with some and it was never anything that I wanted to ruin someone's life over. I've said this badly. *cringe*
I think you articulated it well and most people probably feel the same way; only the extremists on the subject appear to view it differently. There are definitely different degrees of severity.
A man who's just a pervy creep -- always leering, constant sexual innuendo, inappropriately touching, grabbing, pinching -- is one thing. It's not a crime and shouldn't be put in the same category as rape, sexual harassment and job threatening in the work place, drugging and sexually abusing people, molestation...
Harvey Weinstein and Al Franken's actions, for example, fall into very different categories of sexual misconduct. In my opinion. There are about a million men on the internet, self included, who have engaged in exactly this kind of behavior. And while it isn't technically criminal to be a letch and a creep, the exposure of behavior like this does make me pause and reflect on some of the more cringe-worthy shit I've said even as a joke. Maybe that's worthwhile.
I dont think Morgan Freeman's life is gonna be ruined by this, aside from salacious headlines that he probably could care less about. But if a few "well meaning" assholes like me take a minute to consider their approaches to women and the impact of systemic sexism...
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Morgan Freeman seems worried to me Donovan. He's issued two public apologies, lost his lucrative VISA endorsement gig, and the Screen Actors Guild is reportedly reviewing his lifetime achievement award. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z5Giutbc00
Some of his comments to female interviewers were really creepy and inappropriate. He was also practically drooling and pretty wild-eyed at those times. But, if he never physically crossed the line or used his power to harass/abuse anyone, I agree he'll probably be okay.
I also agree that it's a good thing smart men are considering their past behaviors and being more mindful and respectful in their interactions with women as a result of the MeToo and TimesUp movements.
A few years ago you told me your dick would come a knockin' on my door in SF from hundreds of miles away. Now that you've evolved, I can finally stop answering the door so slowly and cautiously for fear of experiencing a head-on collision. ')
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(05-27-2018, 01:29 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: A few years ago you told me your dick would come a knockin' on my door in SF from hundreds of miles away.
Holy fuckity fuck! I never knew he talked like that! Nevah! That is so far from where he sits in my mind's eye. I have this image of him that is the quiet intellectual, with a pipe even! He wouldn't say boob if a set were shook in his face. Ahahahaha. Dying here.
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(05-27-2018, 03:31 PM)Duchess Wrote: (05-27-2018, 01:29 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: A few years ago you told me your dick would come a knockin' on my door in SF from hundreds of miles away.
Holy fuckity fuck! I never knew he talked like that! Nevah! That is so far from where he sits in my mind's eye. I have this image of him that is the quiet intellectual, with a pipe even! He wouldn't say boob if a set were shook in his face. Ahahahaha. Dying here.
I think it was right after Donovan's troll friends all showed up here and he was probably just dealing with peer pressure!
Seriously............Donovan was no angel before his evolution. He's come a long way baby.
You don't remember him calling me a chick with a dick, a hot dog, a lesbian, and all kinds of other shameful gender/sexist slurs either? To this day, I still struggle with my sexuality as a result.
What about all those times he called sally a drunken slut who was always on her knees for beers in high school? (Of course that one is true.......... but still, no need to tell everyone.)
And..........the many times Donovan told username she only disagreed with some of his views because she was a typical crazy woman who could never admit she was wrong? And, like all other women, she has daddy issues!
Or Donovan's claim that he'd sexually conquered all Mock's hot soccer moms and built a harem on sally's deserted island?
Those were really fun times here, actually. No harm done, of course -- I'm just reminiscing and yanking Donovan's chain. But it's a good example of talking sexist shit (probably in jest in his case), which isn't the same as sexual assault or anything.
I've evolved myself. There are some related words and actions in my past that I kinda regret. I feel bad for calling Cynical Ninja a crying schoolgirl when he went off the rails and tattooed himself a victim, for example. That was gender stereotyping and pretty insulting to schoolgirls everywhere. More seriously, I used to often doubt women's claims of harassment by default in my youth, even though I'd experienced it plenty myself. I'm more informed and wiser now.
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(05-27-2018, 03:31 PM)Duchess Wrote: (05-27-2018, 01:29 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: A few years ago you told me your dick would come a knockin' on my door in SF from hundreds of miles away.
Holy fuckity fuck! I never knew he talked like that! Nevah! That is so far from where he sits in my mind's eye. I have this image of him that is the quiet intellectual, with a pipe even! He wouldn't say boob if a set were shook in his face. Ahahahaha. Dying here.
Are we talking about the same Dono here?
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(05-27-2018, 11:34 AM)Donovan Wrote: (05-25-2018, 04:52 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: (05-25-2018, 02:56 PM)Duchess Wrote: I'm not sure I'm going to be able to articulate this well enough and it's going to come across as defending these guys. I'm not! No means no. Period. However, I think there are degrees of it. I've dealt with some and it was never anything that I wanted to ruin someone's life over. I've said this badly. *cringe*
I think you articulated it well and most people probably feel the same way; only the extremists on the subject appear to view it differently. There are definitely different degrees of severity.
A man who's just a pervy creep -- always leering, constant sexual innuendo, inappropriately touching, grabbing, pinching -- is one thing. It's not a crime and shouldn't be put in the same category as rape, sexual harassment and job threatening in the work place, drugging and sexually abusing people, molestation...
Harvey Weinstein and Al Franken's actions, for example, fall into very different categories of sexual misconduct. In my opinion. There are about a million men on the internet, self included, who have engaged in exactly this kind of behavior. And while it isn't technically criminal to be a letch and a creep, the exposure of behavior like this does make me pause and reflect on some of the more cringe-worthy shit I've said even as a joke. Maybe that's worthwhile.
I dont think Morgan Freeman's life is gonna be ruined by this, aside from salacious headlines that he probably could care less about. But if a few "well meaning" assholes like me take a minute to consider their approaches to women and the impact of systemic sexism...
I appreciate this.
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(05-27-2018, 11:56 PM)Love Child Wrote: Are we talking about the same Dono here?
Yeah, and now I feel so inferior, other women got to see that side and I didn't.
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(05-27-2018, 01:29 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Morgan Freeman seems worried to me Donovan. He's issued two public apologies, lost his lucrative VISA endorsement gig, and the Screen Actors Guild is reportedly reviewing his lifetime achievement award. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z5Giutbc00
Some of his comments to female interviewers were really creepy and inappropriate. He was also practically drooling and pretty wild-eyed at those times. But, if he never physically crossed the line or used his power to harass/abuse anyone, I agree he'll probably be okay.
I also agree that it's a good thing smart men are considering their past behaviors and being more mindful and respectful in their interactions with women as a result of the MeToo and TimesUp movements.
A few years ago you told me your dick would come a knockin' on my door in SF from hundreds of miles away. Now that you've evolved, I can finally stop answering the door so slowly and cautiously for fear of experiencing a head-on collision. ') I expect Morgan Freeman will enter a rehab of some sort and explain away his behavior as alcohol-related. I never put much stock in things like lost advertising or taking away awards etc, that stuff tends to be knee jerk reaction and is usually quickly forgotten by the next scandal.
As for my dick knocking on your door: I assumed you know I was exaggerating there, my dick could never reach your house from NY. At best it would make it to Denver then have to put it on a plane to get it over the Rockies. But I will caution you that while I have evolved, my penis is still an absolute prick so keep the door chain on just in case.
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(05-27-2018, 04:04 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: (05-27-2018, 03:31 PM)Duchess Wrote: (05-27-2018, 01:29 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: A few years ago you told me your dick would come a knockin' on my door in SF from hundreds of miles away.
Holy fuckity fuck! I never knew he talked like that! Nevah! That is so far from where he sits in my mind's eye. I have this image of him that is the quiet intellectual, with a pipe even! He wouldn't say boob if a set were shook in his face. Ahahahaha. Dying here.
I think it was right after Donovan's troll friends all showed up here and he was probably just dealing with peer pressure!
Seriously............Donovan was no angel before his evolution. He's come a long way baby.
You don't remember him calling me a chick with a dick, a hot dog, a lesbian, and all kinds of other shameful gender/sexist slurs either? To this day, I still struggle with my sexuality as a result.
What about all those times he called sally a drunken slut who was always on her knees for beers in high school? (Of course that one is true.......... but still, no need to tell everyone.)
And..........the many times Donovan told username she only disagreed with some of his views because she was a typical crazy woman who could never admit she was wrong? And, like all other women, she has daddy issues!
Or Donovan's claim that he'd sexually conquered all Mock's hot soccer moms and built a harem on sally's deserted island?
Those were really fun times here, actually. No harm done, of course -- I'm just reminiscing and yanking Donovan's chain. But it's a good example of talking sexist shit (probably in jest in his case), which isn't the same as sexual assault or anything.
I've evolved myself. There are some related words and actions in my past that I kinda regret. I feel bad for calling Cynical Ninja a crying schoolgirl when he went off the rails and tattooed himself a victim, for example. That was gender stereotyping and pretty insulting to schoolgirls everywhere. More seriously, I used to often doubt women's claims of harassment by default in my youth, even though I'd experienced it plenty myself. I'm more informed and wiser now. All these things are true, I said them. Of course, at the time I had been fairly or unfairly labelled as part of the troll crowd and everyone here was firing at me. And much like Sally's college days, I take all comers.
(Ps to Duchess. I grew up with both parents being drug-fueled nudists and swingers and running a porn empire for the Colorado mob for the better part of a decade during my formative years. I know a number of lovely boob-related activities should a pair of them wander within easy reach... )
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(05-28-2018, 04:19 AM)Duchess Wrote: (05-27-2018, 11:56 PM)Love Child Wrote: Are we talking about the same Dono here?
Yeah, and now I feel so inferior, other women got to see that side and I didn't. I always kinda fancied myself a troll of trolls. I spent years trying without success to curb my extremely caustic wit, so I try instead to use it only on the really deserving.
Thankfully, with the current political climate and Facebook and Twitter, there is no shortage of morons to let loose on.
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(05-28-2018, 10:00 AM)Donovan Wrote: But I will caution you that while I have evolved, my penis is still an absolute prick so keep the door chain on just in case.
Thanks for the heads-up.
I don't have a door chain.
But, I'll continue keeping my peep hole really clean........just in case.
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My gawd. I can't even get a dick knocking on my door when I damn near beg for it! Thanks a bunch, Donovan.
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(05-28-2018, 10:57 AM)Duchess Wrote:
My gawd. I can't even get a dick knocking on my door when I damn near beg for it! Thanks a bunch, Donovan. If I thought you were even for a second in need of a dingdong at your doorbell, I'd be there so fast my shadow would still be standing here saying "what the fuck?""
I wouldn't even need a plane. I'd pole-vault.
Just because HotD's big ol' sexy brain makes me pine for her fjords, that doesn't mean I have no room in my heart to worship your royalness. Besides, my love for HotD is that unrequited kind that comes with complications like restraining orders and BOTL calls. It's a lot of work finding a bush close enough to her window that's still big enough to fully conceal a big ol guy like me.
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