(11-09-2018, 10:30 AM)Duchess Wrote: trump just said he doesn't know the man he has appointed AG. Jesus Christ. *face palm*

Just like Trump was on video talking about how he did know Putin, then repeatedly insisted he'd never met Putin............Trump told FOX in October that he knows Matt Whitaker and Whitaker is "a great guy", then told reporters repeatedly on Friday that he doesn't even know Whitaker.

Such a habitual liar, the President is.   It's very easy to pull up the FOX tape and the records showing Trump met with Whitaker many times in the White House.

Anyway, thank Christ for Kellyanne Conway.  She always clears things up so effectively.  This morning on FOX, she acknowledged that the President has gotten to know Whitaker over the past year.

However, according to Kellyanne, the President wasn't lying on Friday when he repeatedly denied knowing Whitaker............. you see, Trump was instead just trying to make the point  that he wasn’t appointing “a friend there who he’s known his entire life.”   

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

(11-11-2018, 02:55 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: Anyway, thank Christ for Kellyanne Conway.  She always clears things up so effectively.  This morning on FOX, she acknowledged that the President has gotten to know Whitaker over the past year.

However, according to Kellyanne, the President wasn't lying on Friday when he repeatedly denied knowing Whitaker............. you see, Trump was instead just trying to make the point  that he wasn’t appointing “a friend there who he’s known his entire life.”  

I laughed & eye rolled at the same time.

Those fuckin' people. You can't believe any of them. I read she tried to justify that ridiculous chopped video as well.

(11-11-2018, 02:55 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(11-09-2018, 10:30 AM)Duchess Wrote: trump just said he doesn't know the man he has appointed AG. Jesus Christ. *face palm*

Just like Trump was on video talking about how he did know Putin, then repeatedly insisted he'd never met Putin............Trump told FOX in October that he knows Matt Whitaker and Whitaker is "a great guy", then told reporters repeatedly on Friday that he doesn't even know Whitaker.

Such a habitual liar, the President is.   It's very easy to pull up the FOX tape and the records showing Trump met with Whitaker many times in the White House.

Anyway, thank Christ for Kellyanne Conway.  She always clears things up so effectively.  This morning on FOX, she acknowledged that the President has gotten to know Whitaker over the past year.

However, according to Kellyanne, the President wasn't lying on Friday when he repeatedly denied knowing Whitaker............. you see, Trump was instead just trying to make the point  that he wasn’t appointing “a friend there who he’s known his entire life.”   

Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

If some one says do you know that guy who calls himself "Fry Guy", what is your answer? You'd be right, or wrong. There are degrees of know aren't there. Therefore it would be the height of stupidity to infer in this respect he was lying. You would not make that stupid mistake, would you?

(11-11-2018, 12:16 PM)Rootilda Wrote: Sorry, that made me laugh so hard I had to share it.  Here's a serious post:

Alright.............Who's been playin with the crayons!!!

I wouldn't announce the hire of someone who was reporting directly to me in a powerful position (after nearly a year of planning to fire her predecessor), and then answer stakeholder questions about the important staff change with, "I don't know the woman I just hired, but I hear she's highly thought of" - especially if I'd recently claimed to know her and had interfaced with her professionally many times. That would be lying.

I'd be prepared to own and answer questions about my hiring decision.

No one asked Trump if he knew Whitaker or whether he was friendly with Whitaker on a social level. Instead, Trump claimed that he didn't know Whitaker several times rather than answering questions about his decision to appoint Whitaker; a man Trump had recently claimed to know and a man with whom Trump had met in a professional capacity many times before appointing him to the highest Justice/LE position in the country.

(11-11-2018, 08:57 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: I wouldn't announce the hire of someone who was reporting directly to me in a powerful position (after nearly a year of planning to fire her predecessor), and then answer stakeholder questions about the important staff change with, "I don't know the woman I just hired, but I hear she's highly thought of" - especially if I'd recently claimed to know her and had interfaced with her professionally many times. That would be lying.

I'd be prepared to own and answer questions about my hiring decision.

No one asked Trump if he knew Whitaker or whether he was friendly with Whitaker on a social level. Instead, Trump claimed that he didn't know Whitaker several times rather than answering questions about his decision to appoint Whitaker; a man Trump had recently claimed to know and a man with whom Trump had met in a professional capacity many times before appointing him to the highest Justice/LE position in the country.

"KNOW" being the operative word. I know my workmates and my boss but do I "know" them?
Do I know their names? Sure? Do I have an idea about how capable they are in the workplace? Reasonably?
Do I have much of a knowledge of their sense of humour and personality? Mostly
Their desires? Not really
Their history? No
Their experiences? No
Their hopes and passions? No.
In the scheme of things I really do not know them at all or at least well.

Would I be lying if I said I knew them or would I be lying if I said I didn't OR (Pay attention) MAYBE it is subjective?

You can't apply this standard to Trump and his answer because it suits you to dismiss any benefit of the doubt and call it a lie. It is intellectually lazy and ideological and you go out of the way to pronounce such things as facts when they are just your opinion.

And several people's opinion. You go out of your way to constantly defend this man. Have fun with that.

"I know Matt Whitaker, he's a great guy". Donald Trump on FOX, Oct. 2018

"I don't know Matt Whitaker, I don't know Matt Whitaker". Donald Trump about the man he just appointed AG, Nov. 2018

Two proactive conflicting statements by one person, with one vocabulary, one month apart.

One of the two conflicting statements is false -- no personal opinion or pointless semantics exercise changes that objective reality. But, I don't care if anyone chooses to believe otherwise.

When trump makes those stupid fuckin' comments, he's not speaking to people like me or HotD or Love Child, he's speaking directly to those who think like Fry Guy, Maggot and Mark. He knows that not only will they believe his bullshit, they will self righteously defend it.  

(11-12-2018, 01:27 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: "I know Matt Whitaker, he's a great guy". Donald Trump on FOX, Oct. 2018

"I don't know Matt Whitaker, I don't know Matt Whitaker". Donald Trump about the man he just appointed AG, Nov. 2018

Two proactive conflicting statements by one person, with one vocabulary, one month apart.

One of the two conflicting statements is false -- no personal opinion or pointless semantics exercise changes that objective reality. But, I don't care if anyone chooses to believe otherwise.

I can say I know you guys and I can similarly say I don't know you.

ie)

"I know HairofTheDog. She posts with me on a forum called Mockforums. She is a snowflake. She talks a lot of craps and is dishonest as Hell. She does that virtue signaling and has a propensity to accuse people of being rape apologists and the like if they do not agree with her ideological positions. She is a moron"

Is THAT a lie?

OR

"No, I don't know HairofTheDog and don't care to know her. She is really just disembodied words on a screen. Straqnge thoughts attached to a strange avatar"

Is THIS a lie?

I cold claim to know or not know someone and even a month apart AND be true.

It would be silly to claim otherwise and I hope no one here is THAT silly.

Trump will never be able to do anything right in the eyes of the Dems, he made them cry and they will never forget that. His best bet is to ignore the idiots that are out there doing anything they possibly can to muck up anything he does. The Mexican government has finally started to do something about migrants in their country. It's because Trump was such a hard liner and would not make it an easy thing to do. Today they realize this and the caravan is dwindling. They may not even need the military by the time it reaches here but the pundits and the quacks on the left still cry a river about it. meanwhile they have no new idea's and do not even want to apply the laws on the books. Normal people can see this but whoever said the violent left was anything but normal. Every day they prove it over and over. 

"It's because Trump was such a hard liner and would not make it an easy thing to do. Today they realize this and the caravan is dwindling."



The caravan would have dwindled anyway, numbnuts.  They all do.

Again, I think your assessment is way off base Mags.

Undoubtedly, there are some criers and violent people on the left; same for the right. No argument there.

But, most Dems I hear/read object to Trump's policies and divisive rhetoric because it flies in the face of their long-held values and ideals surrounding a healthy democracy. It's not butthurt over Trump's 2016 victory. I believe they are more qualified to explain their own thoughts and feelings than you and Trump.

The midterms made it clear that it's not only Dems/Libs who feel that Trump is leading the country down the wrong path -- it's Independents, women, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, Asian Americans, young people, suburban areas, and even parts of the Midwest which Trump won in 2016.

Trump still has strong support from the conservative right, evangelicals, non college-educated white men, and most rural areas (which are the demographics he clearly and openly caters to, while alienating other groups).

Anyway, you can't credibly speak for the thoughts and feelings of everyone within a political party, nor everyone who doesn't support most of Trump's policies and rhetoric, nor everyone who doesn't blindly worship at the shrine of Trump -- no matter how many times you insist you can.

(11-12-2018, 11:22 AM)Maggot Wrote: Trump will never be able to do anything right in the eyes of the Dems, he made them cry and they will never forget that. His best bet is to ignore the idiots that are out there doing anything they possibly can to muck up anything he does. The Mexican government has finally started to do something about migrants in their country. It's because Trump was such a hard liner and would not make it an easy thing to do. Today they realize this and the caravan is dwindling. They may not even need the military by the time it reaches here but the pundits and the quacks on the left still cry a river about it. meanwhile they have no new idea's and do not even want to apply the laws on the books. Normal people can see this but whoever said the violent left was anything but normal. Every day they prove it over and over. 

They never needed the military there, it was a stunt, you boob. trump knows it, his administration knows it and the military he sent there knows it. How much have you heard about the caravan since election day? Very little to none, that's how much, even FOX stopped talking about it after last Tuesday. trump pulled the same crap pence did at the football game, it was a fucking stunt, a taxpayer funded stunt much like one that happened over the weekend. Taxpayers paid to fly his ass to Paris where he sat in a hotel and rage tweeted rather than participate.

Do you know what he's doing today? Sitting in the White House rage tweeting. He's not visiting Arlington nor Walter Reed. You can shove trump up your butt. Have a beautiful day.

(11-12-2018, 02:56 PM)Duchess Wrote: You can shove trump up your butt. 

Don't try to shove the real Donald Trump up your butt Mags!  

That would be really, really, really painful.

If you want to respect Duchess's wish, take the less literal and painful route.

I can expect no less from the violent left. 

Oh I dunno, he might enjoy having a toadstool shoved up his ass.

Thats not very nice. 

North Korea is moving ahead with its ballistic missile program at 16 hidden bases that have been identified in new commercial satellite images, a network long known to American intelligence agencies but left undiscussed as President Trump claims to have neutralized the North’s nuclear threat.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/us/po...bases.html