(12-15-2019, 01:01 PM)Duchess Wrote: Are their desks in such a wide open area a secret? Isn't this in a place where reporters, cameras and miscellaneous people are? I ask because someone would have to be an imbecile to leave anything considered private out on a desk.

You are right, she should have never left it there and should have remembered that reporters will stoop to groveling to get a "scoop" It does not change the fact that they knew what they were doing is wrong. if I leave my lawn mower in the yard to get some lemonade it doesn't give some clown the right to steal my lawnmower.

(12-15-2019, 02:20 PM)Rootilda Wrote: How is this any different than taking a photo of the guy watching golf during the impeachment hearings?

He was at his desk and you are right but it does not change the fact that the media will steal, accost, and do anything immoral to get a "scoop" right or wrong, true or untrue. Both sides do it and that is my point here.

I don't want the House to send the articles of impeachment to the Senate. Those who will be playing the role of foreman & juror have publicly stated they will kill this at the first opportunity. Fuck 'em, don't send them anything. I don't care if this drags out for the next several months, don't give them one goddamn thing, keep investigating.

Eh, it's just another baseless attack on Trump, don't worry this won't work either but at least now the Dems can say "don't look at Clintons impeachment, look at the bad man Trumps"    for some reason it may make them feel better for the election day crying fiasco. Just for the record you know.

  Why in the world would anyone be looking at Bill’s impeachment? WTF. 

(12-16-2019, 11:43 AM)Duchess Wrote:   Why in the world would anyone be looking at Bill’s impeachment? WTF. 

Trump would be the 4^th president impeached, everyone picks on Bill because of it. Now people can pick on Trump no matter how baseless it is. he didn't lie to congress though. 10 years from now people will be saying "but Trump was impeached' I think that's all the Democrats are looking for.

(12-16-2019, 11:43 AM)Duchess Wrote:   Why in the world would anyone be looking at Bill’s impeachment? WTF. 

 
I find it kinda interesting to look at impeachment in historical context, being that Trump is likely to become only the third U.S. President ever to be impeached.

And, it's very interesting (and sadly funny) to look at what some of the Republicans who were gung ho about impeaching Clinton for lying about a White House blow job now have to say about impeachment in general and impeachment of Donald Trump specifically.  Night and day.

Lindsey Graham is probably the funniest and most hypocritical of the flip-floppers.  There are a lot of mash up video tapes showing him making the exact opposite arguments regarding impeachment back then as compared to what he's preaching now.

(12-15-2019, 09:06 PM)Maggot Wrote:

(12-15-2019, 02:20 PM)Rootilda Wrote: How is this any different than taking a photo of the guy watching golf during the impeachment hearings?

He was at his desk and you are right but it does not change the fact that the media will steal, accost, and do anything immoral to get a "scoop" right or wrong, true or untrue. Both sides do it and that is my point here.

Yeah, that's not what you originally said. "Democrat assholes taking pictures of Lesko's desktop when they are in recess."

Hello? Maggot? You there? You are a heavily soaked rum fruitcake. That is all. 

(12-16-2019, 12:42 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote:

(12-16-2019, 11:43 AM)Duchess Wrote:   Why in the world would anyone be looking at Bill’s impeachment? WTF. 

 
I find it kinda interesting to look at impeachment in historical context, being that Trump is likely to become only the third U.S. President ever to be impeached.

And, it's very interesting (and sadly funny) to look at what some of the Republicans who were gung ho about impeaching Clinton for lying about a White House blow job now have to say about impeachment in general and impeachment of Donald Trump specifically.  Night and day.

Lindsey Graham is probably the funniest and most hypocritical of the flip-floppers.  There are a lot of  mash up video tapes showing him making the exact opposite arguments regarding impeachment back then as compared to what he's preaching now.

I was listening to some people talk about the historical context of this. Apparently it's something that bothers trump a great deal and it's something he has been vocal about. I'm glad there will be an asterisk next to him & his presidency. Fuckin' delighted.

It's almost quaint thinking about President Clinton's hummer. I remember the days of our biggest problem being a prez who couldn't keep it in his pants.

Clinton lied to congress in court, Trump did no such thing, he was elected and that's enough. Yes he will be the 3^rd. or if you want to be creative the turd.

I remember being pissed at the amount of money Ken Starr was spending to get his greasy little fingers all over Bill Clinton's sex life. And now the Rs are squealing about the money spent to investigate Russian interference in an election among other things. Funny how priorities change.

(12-16-2019, 01:21 PM)Rootilda Wrote: I remember being pissed at the amount of money Ken Starr was spending to get his greasy little fingers all over Bill Clinton's sex life.  And now the Rs are squealing about the money spent to investigate Russian interference in an election among other things.  Funny how priorities change.

This is what politicians do. This is what we pay them for right? Personally I think they should all be put in a room with cream pies to throw at each other. For people that supposedly are talking for me they sure don't speak the same language as me. When they talk about me they mean it literally. They all suck lemons.

Clinton was impeached for lying about his sexual relationship with Lewinsky to a federal grand jury and thereby obstructing justice, not lying to Congress.  

Some of the most damning evidence came from wire-tapping by the FBI of whistle-blower Linda Tripp.

Anyway, in regards to Lindsey Graham, he pleaded back then for senators not to make up their minds before completing their Clinton impeachment trial because that would be wrong.  

However, in contrast, just the other day, Graham told reporters he'd already made up his mind to acquit Trump, despite the fact that the trial hasn't even begun.

Graham also told the public back then that impeachment was not about punishment, but rather about cleansing the office and restoring its honor, which did not mean that the President had to be guilty of a crime to lose his job.  He added that all that was required is the Congress to determine that the President's conduct as a public official was clearly out of bounds, a sentiment which was echoed by other Republican politicians at the time.  

Yet, during the recent House impeachment hearings, many Republican congresspersons repeatedly asked, 'where's the crime?!"

There are more examples, but the gist is clear.  To me, it's a hypocritical and sadly funny display of blind partisanship and loyalty.

Partisan loyalty...........     that's a good one.

I heard they took a black light to the oval office after clinton left and it shone all the way to the Lincoln memorial.

You should try it on your underwear, your skidmarks will light up like a Christmas tree.

Why don't you go deep throat the Washington Monument.

Good timing it just got all cleaned up and re-done.

You did my laundry?