(12-16-2020, 10:54 PM)Maggot Wrote: Sometimes I think the forum gets 40% dumber when she posts something really numb.

She's one of the very few who actually posts facts rather than outright lies, supposition and conspiracy theories.

(12-16-2020, 11:25 PM)BigMark Wrote: She's the Queen of the Karens.

Because you don't like what she posts?

(12-17-2020, 06:07 AM)Duchess Wrote:

(12-16-2020, 11:25 PM)BigMark Wrote: She's the Queen of the Karens.

Because you don't like what she posts?

Irony OVER 9000!!!

(12-17-2020, 01:29 AM)BigMark Wrote: You out the anal, in aneurysm.

But i like anal aneurysms.    Nothing says freshly fucked, like not being able to sit down for a day.

Kushner Helped Launch Shell Company That Paid Campaign Funds To Trump Family

Fraud?

Moshiach!

After 9 months of being unable to hash out a Covid economic relief bill for individuals, families and small businesses..........a bi-partisan bill was finally negotiated/approved in Congress yesterday.

But, shortly thereafter...............President Trump threatened to veto the bill unless the direct payments were increased from $600 per person to $2,000 per person (which is what the Democrats had originally proposed and Republicans rejected).

So, now Speaker Pelosi is calling Trump's bluff.  



Pelosi's strategy is the right one, in my opinion.

It's gotta be a hard pill to swallow for Trump's congressional loyalists who'd fought against the higher payouts and claimed Trump wouldn't agree to anything over $600.

I don't think Trump will (should) veto the bill unless enough Republicans agree to backpedal quickly and agree to the higher payouts.  Should be interesting.

AOC was all over this on twitter, saying she had already written up a proposal for the stimulus check that they were welcome to use.

I admire her ambition to a certain extent but I also find her increasingly annoying in her attempts to elevate herself at the expense of more senior/experienced/knowledgeable members of Congress. Nancy's got this, pipsqueak.

(12-23-2020, 02:59 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: After 9 months of being unable to hash out a Covid economic relief bill for individuals, families and small businesses..........a bi-partisan bill was finally negotiated/approved in Congress yesterday.

But, shortly thereafter...............President Trump threatened to veto the bill unless the direct payments were increased from $600 per person to $2,000 per person (which is what the Democrats had originally proposed and Republicans rejected).

So, now Speaker Pelosi is calling Trump's bluff.  

Pelosi's strategy is the right one, in my opinion.

It's gotta be a hard pill to swallow for Trump's congressional loyalists who'd fought against the higher payouts and claimed Trump wouldn't agree to anything over $600.

I don't think Trump will (should) veto the bill unless enough Republicans agree to backpedal quickly and agree to the higher payouts.  Should be interesting.

800 pages of pork = veto. Anyone who votes yea for that kind of shit needs to be hung; anyone that signs it into law should have boiling oil poured into their ears.

If you think the dailymail read it in it's entirety -- or any other media outlet -- you're an imbecile.

Once Trump is gone the fighting among the left is going to be epic. Just like Israel, if they didn't have outside enemies they would kill each other.

Yeah, probably. We're not a monolith like the right that votes party over country.

That makes no sense rothschild.

Obviously, no one needs to read the 880 pages of COVID relief/stimulus legislation to publish or comment on the letter Pelosi sent to Democrats in response to President Trump's threat to veto the bi-partisan bill. 

And, Trump didn't threaten to veto the bill because of 'pork'.

I haven't read all 880 pages, doubt that Trump has read it all, and don't know which members of the media have -- none of which is relevant to Trump's comment about vetoing the bill specifically because (he says) he believes that qualifying individuals should get $2,000 each rather than $600 each. 

So far as I can see, the $900 billion is going directly to stimulus checks, unemployment insurance, rental assistance and eviction protection, childcare assistance, healthcare assistance, payroll protection for small businesses, COVID testing and tracing, and vaccine distribution.

Anyway, I don't think it's likely that Trump is going to veto the COVID bill unless he's able to get enough Republicans to agree to the $1,400 increase in individual payouts.  

I think it would be politically damaging for Trump and Republican elected officials if he vetoed it without having something more to offer.

But, he's a wild card to me and I won't be shocked if he does veto it without having anything better secured for the Americans who need it.

If there's no so-called pork in the other some 5,000 pages of attached legislation which would keep the government from shutting down, that would actually shock me.  

The legislation was negotiated by opposing parties. It wouldn't be unusual for both sides to give in to some unnecessary or unrelated demands in order to get what they consider essential or beneficial in return.

I'm glad that Trump is going at Democrats as well as Republicans on the Covid bill. I can only hope that Biden has the same common sense to see the truth, and not be blind.

My view on a Gov shutdown in these times is who gives a crap? When they do go down people still get their necessary payments. The rest of the country is somewhat shutdown. It would be good I think. They are really not essential. Even if they believe they are.

Do you have any idea how many federal jobs there are? They aren't all politicians, you fucking dimwit.

He puts the wit in dimwit.

(12-23-2020, 09:40 PM)Rootilda Wrote: Do you have any idea how many federal jobs there are? They aren't all politicians, you fucking dimwit.

There you go again calling me names. Are they essential? Political Sen/Reps have their own people. The military still get paid. SS still gets paid.States run their own welfare administrations, things still happen. Maybe polititians don't get paid but I bet they do. List what really happens when the gov shuts down and I won't even call you a dimbulb because I don't do that crap. 

But you just had to toss that in why?...............Because that's what you do. Anyways. 

(12-23-2020, 05:02 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: That makes no sense rothschild.

Obviously, no one needs to read the 880 pages of COVID relief/stimulus legislation to publish or comment on the letter Pelosi sent to Democrats in response to President Trump's threat to veto the bi-partisan bill. 

And, Trump didn't threaten to veto the bill because of 'pork'.

I haven't read all 880 pages, doubt that Trump has read it all, and don't know which members of the media have -- none of which is relevant to Trump's comment about vetoing the bill specifically because (he says) he believes that qualifying individuals should get $2,000 each rather than $600 each. 

So far as I can see, the $900 billion is going directly to stimulus checks, unemployment insurance, rental assistance and eviction protection, childcare assistance, healthcare assistance, payroll protection for small businesses, COVID testing and tracing, and vaccine distribution.

What "sense" does it make to enact legislation that isn't fully understood and debated? Forget the pissing contest between Trump and Pelosi, this is a big part of why our nation is dying. 800+ pages of legalese = HUGE RED FLAG.