It didnt go unnoticed.  I know being confronted by truth isnt nice, but here goes.  Only a handful of farmers wanted independence, most wanted to stay british.   What ensued was a tragedy.    A tragedy for the American people.  Britain only lost because our supply line was interrupted by the Atlantic ocean, and that crushing the revolution would have been easy but for that.

It was also tragic for the treasury, the british bank, as we would have charged you about 11 per cent on your gross national product for the privilege of being governed by us.   What also sticks in the craw is that you invited those slimy frogs to join in.  That is a BIG insult.

With an understanding of the deep wisdom and intelligence of the ancient british, we go way back, an application to rejoin the Commonwealth would be approved.  Indeed, i would go further than that and apply for yourselves to become a shire of britain, and have an MP in parliament.  This would mean that you would be governed by us, and taxed, which would be a small price to pay for the privilege.

Oh, and our queen would be your queen.

This wont happen but should.   My info on your country suggests that when the next election comes along, the Republicans will win by a landslide.  All good there. Those republicans, they cost parliament a lot of money.  Oh well, pip pip.

  Funny troll

And you can thank us for saving your ass from Germany, twice.

(07-05-2022, 09:06 AM)pyropappy Wrote:


And you can thank us for saving your ass from Germany, twice.

  No son, you saved your own ass.  The Germans were coming for you after Britain.   If you thought that America would be unaffected by the Germans beating the British, you wouldnt have got involved.    Cant blame you for that, trying to insulate yourself from   the hell of europe, and all it stands for.   Shame your in the poopy now, with the socialist nonsense.

Duchess, whats the difference from trolling and mocking?   Only a small part of the above was trolling.   Trolling is winding up, the brits are good at that, mocking is to mock, to hurt, is that the difference?

Anyway, guilty as charged.  You wouldnt want me to mock.   So, when are we getting it together Duchess?

To mock is to hurt? Awww. I wouldn't want that. I don't want any Mockers to be hurt.

(07-05-2022, 11:51 AM)Piglet Wrote:   No son, you saved your own ass.  The Germans were coming for you after Britain.   If you thought that America would be unaffected by the Germans beating the British, you wouldnt have got involved.    Cant blame you for that, trying to insulate yourself from   the hell of europe, and all it stands for.   Shame your in the poopy now, with the socialist nonsense.

From where did I. G. Farben acquire the technical processes for manufacturing synthetic rubber and aviation fuel?

Mock is not mock anymore, it has evolved into a loving family.

here ya go piggy, one of my favorites. limeys are nothing more than thieving, murderous scum sucking Jackeens. Idi amin butt-fucked the queen, and she loved it.

(07-05-2022, 06:49 PM)BigMark Wrote: Mock is not mock anymore, it has evolved into a loving family.

People used to do the same thing when they joined TK. Ask Clang what TK is.

Piglet


I'm going to be keeping Duchess busy for a while.

(07-06-2022, 12:00 AM)pyropappy Wrote:

here ya go piggy, one of my favorites. limeys are nothing more than thieving, murderous scum sucking Jackeens. Idi amin butt-fucked the queen, and she loved it.

Thats interesting, and on the surface, it is appropriate.   Oliver Cromwell, from my part of the world, Ely , didnt like the Irish, he went over there and murdered as many as he could, not really that nice.     At that time, murderous racism wasnt unusual. 

This will surprise you, Cromwell was the father of democracy, he insisted that the British parliament acted in the best interest of the British people, not in their regional best interest. and dissolved parliament  until parliament did his wishes.

He did it several times until it functioned properly.  He had to execute  King Charles at the time to be able to do it.    He was a hero, as well as being a bit hard on the Irish.

The Irish have a good reason to hate the English, back then.   Yes, back then.   The english occupied Northern Ireland for a long time, and eventually a new country emerged, a country called Northern Ireland who wanted to be governed by the English, not Ireland.

Northern Ireland is not English, its not Irish, its separate from both.

So this is the problem, Ireland want the north back, but the north doesnt want to know.  To get the north back, the IRA started a war against Britain, when Britain had no say over what was best for N Ireland.

America saw it from  the souths point of view, and funded the murder of british soldiers and civilians.  The British troops in Northern Ireland were peace keepers.   If they were not there, the north would have gone to war with the south, and  the bloodshed would have been enormous.

The solution was to observe democracy, when the north votes to rejoin the south, then all well and good.  Sin Fein, or the IRA now has MPS in the northern irish assembly, as seemingly have a majority in the populace.

I hope this makes sense.

It makes about of much sense as everything else nowadays, none for fucks sake.

(07-06-2022, 06:30 PM)Piglet Wrote: Thats interesting, and on the surface, it is appropriate.   Oliver Cromwell, from my part of the world, Ely , didnt like the Irish, he went over there and murdered as many as he could, not really that nice.     At that time, murderous racism wasnt unusual. 

This will surprise you, Cromwell was the father of democracy, he insisted that the British parliament acted in the best interest of the British people, not in their regional best interest. and dissolved parliament  until parliament did his wishes.

He did it several times until it functioned properly.  He had to execute  King Charles at the time to be able to do it.    He was a hero, as well as being a bit hard on the Irish.

The Irish have a good reason to hate the English, back then.   Yes, back then.   The english occupied Northern Ireland for a long time, and eventually a new country emerged, a country called Northern Ireland who wanted to be governed by the English, not Ireland.

Northern Ireland is not English, its not Irish, its separate from both.

So this is the problem, Ireland want the north back, but the north doesnt want to know.  To get the north back, the IRA started a war against Britain, when Britain had no say over what was best for N Ireland.

America saw it from  the souths point of view, and funded the murder of british soldiers and civilians.  The British troops in Northern Ireland were peace keepers.   If they were not there, the north would have gone to war with the south, and  the bloodshed would have been enormous.

The solution was to observe democracy, when the north votes to rejoin the south, then all well and good.  Sin Fein, or the IRA now has MPS in the northern irish assembly, as seemingly have a majority in the populace.

I hope this makes sense.

That is the propaganda peddled by the limey parliament for centuries; you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. The British Empire was a group of fops playing God. Did they do some good? Sure, but the evil far out shadows the good.

The hatred started with Cromwell, but there are plenty of more recent examples. The Famine, The Easter Rising, Black and Tans, The Battle of the Bogside, Ballymurphy Massacre, Bloody Sunday - the Bogside massacre and the hunger strike just to name a few.

My paternal grandfather, at the age of 17, walked the 50+ miles from his home to Dublin to participate in the Easter Rising. He lost his parents during the famine and was the ward of his older brother. His brother forbade him, but he went anyway.

As I have been told, his unit had a firefight with limey murders and wiped them out. They salvaged weapons and ammo from the dead and continued to fight. The next day he was wounded, patched up by the Cumann na mBan and walked home. He took the Webley MK6 pistol he retrieved off an officer he shot for protection.

When he got home his brother was furious and put him on the next boat to America.

My prized possession is that pistol. They will bury me with it.

As the song says, we have fought for 800 years, and we will fight for 800 more. I am a proud Republican; it is in my blood.


mann na mBan

Bang, bang.

(07-07-2022, 12:07 AM)pyropappy Wrote:

(07-06-2022, 06:30 PM)Piglet Wrote: Thats interesting, and on the surface, it is appropriate.   Oliver Cromwell, from my part of the world, Ely , didnt like the Irish, he went over there and murdered as many as he could, not really that nice.     At that time, murderous racism wasnt unusual. 

This will surprise you, Cromwell was the father of democracy, he insisted that the British parliament acted in the best interest of the British people, not in their regional best interest. and dissolved parliament  until parliament did his wishes.

He did it several times until it functioned properly.  He had to execute  King Charles at the time to be able to do it.    He was a hero, as well as being a bit hard on the Irish.

The Irish have a good reason to hate the English, back then.   Yes, back then.   The english occupied Northern Ireland for a long time, and eventually a new country emerged, a country called Northern Ireland who wanted to be governed by the English, not Ireland.

Northern Ireland is not English, its not Irish, its separate from both.

So this is the problem, Ireland want the north back, but the north doesnt want to know.  To get the north back, the IRA started a war against Britain, when Britain had no say over what was best for N Ireland.

America saw it from  the souths point of view, and funded the murder of british soldiers and civilians.  The British troops in Northern Ireland were peace keepers.   If they were not there, the north would have gone to war with the south, and  the bloodshed would have been enormous.

The solution was to observe democracy, when the north votes to rejoin the south, then all well and good.  Sin Fein, or the IRA now has MPS in the northern irish assembly, as seemingly have a majority in the populace.

I hope this makes sense.

That is the propaganda peddled by the limey parliament for centuries; you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. The British Empire was a group of fops playing God. Did they do some good? Sure, but the evil far out shadows the good.

The hatred started with Cromwell, but there are plenty of more recent examples. The Famine, The Easter Rising, Black and Tans, The Battle of the Bogside, Ballymurphy Massacre, Bloody Sunday - the Bogside massacre and the hunger strike just to name a few.

My paternal grandfather, at the age of 17, walked the 50+ miles from his home to Dublin to participate in the Easter Rising. He lost his parents during the famine and was the ward of his older brother. His brother forbade him, but he went anyway.

As I have been told, his unit had a firefight with limey murders and wiped them out. They salvaged weapons and ammo from the dead and continued to fight. The next day he was wounded, patched up by the Cumann na mBan and walked home. He took the Webley MK6 pistol he retrieved off an officer he shot for protection.

When he got home his brother was furious and put him on the next boat to America.

My prized possession is that pistol. They will bury me with it.

As the song says, we have fought for 800 years, and we will fight for 800 more. I am a proud Republican; it is in my blood.


mann na mBan

I can see your point, the north was once Eire, now it isnt, but it may be again, and probably will in the near future, not through violence and hate, but through democracy.    In the Bible, Jesus said...he who has not sinned can cast the first stone.

Where does America stand on that observation.  Or Ireland.?   The atrocities by the IRA were mind blowing, and politically, the IRA was wrong.  You observe democracy or you dont.

Where does America stand in regards to turning the other cheek, and casting a stone?   Have America never sinned?  This note hasnt the space to print it, yet like the British,  the intention  was correct.   

The timeline of the Webly doesnt sound right, there were no automatics at the time of your fathers grandfather.    One of the failings of politicians is that they pointedly ignore everything that doesnt support their argument.  You have done that by not acknowledging that the north is a different culture, and it doing that, you are perpetuating division, and ultimately, war.   Things change, get used to  it.       By the way, the northern irish are bad.  If it wasnt for the british army, you would have lost....badly.

The celts, the irish scots and welsh are the baddest of all when it comes to war.   In earlier centuries before the gun, when England was at war, the opposition fled many times.

When they heard bagpipes, the scots have no fear, at all.

(07-07-2022, 06:47 AM)Piglet Wrote:

(07-07-2022, 12:07 AM)pyropappy Wrote:

(07-06-2022, 06:30 PM)Piglet Wrote: Thats interesting, and on the surface, it is appropriate.   Oliver Cromwell, from my part of the world, Ely , didnt like the Irish, he went over there and murdered as many as he could, not really that nice.     At that time, murderous racism wasnt unusual. 

This will surprise you, Cromwell was the father of democracy, he insisted that the British parliament acted in the best interest of the British people, not in their regional best interest. and dissolved parliament  until parliament did his wishes.

He did it several times until it functioned properly.  He had to execute  King Charles at the time to be able to do it.    He was a hero, as well as being a bit hard on the Irish.

The Irish have a good reason to hate the English, back then.   Yes, back then.   The english occupied Northern Ireland for a long time, and eventually a new country emerged, a country called Northern Ireland who wanted to be governed by the English, not Ireland.

Northern Ireland is not English, its not Irish, its separate from both.

So this is the problem, Ireland want the north back, but the north doesnt want to know.  To get the north back, the IRA started a war against Britain, when Britain had no say over what was best for N Ireland.

America saw it from  the souths point of view, and funded the murder of british soldiers and civilians.  The British troops in Northern Ireland were peace keepers.   If they were not there, the north would have gone to war with the south, and  the bloodshed would have been enormous.

The solution was to observe democracy, when the north votes to rejoin the south, then all well and good.  Sin Fein, or the IRA now has MPS in the northern irish assembly, as seemingly have a majority in the populace.

I hope this makes sense.

That is the propaganda peddled by the limey parliament for centuries; you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. The British Empire was a group of fops playing God. Did they do some good? Sure, but the evil far out shadows the good.

The hatred started with Cromwell, but there are plenty of more recent examples. The Famine, The Easter Rising, Black and Tans, The Battle of the Bogside, Ballymurphy Massacre, Bloody Sunday - the Bogside massacre and the hunger strike just to name a few.

My paternal grandfather, at the age of 17, walked the 50+ miles from his home to Dublin to participate in the Easter Rising. He lost his parents during the famine and was the ward of his older brother. His brother forbade him, but he went anyway.

As I have been told, his unit had a firefight with limey murders and wiped them out. They salvaged weapons and ammo from the dead and continued to fight. The next day he was wounded, patched up by the Cumann na mBan and walked home. He took the Webley MK6 pistol he retrieved off an officer he shot for protection.

When he got home his brother was furious and put him on the next boat to America.

My prized possession is that pistol. They will bury me with it.

As the song says, we have fought for 800 years, and we will fight for 800 more. I am a proud Republican; it is in my blood.


mann na mBan

I can see your point, the north was once Eire, now it isnt, but it may be again, and probably will in the near future, not through violence and hate, but through democracy.    In the Bible, Jesus said...he who has not sinned can cast the first stone.

Where does America stand on that observation.  Or Ireland.?   The atrocities by the IRA were mind blowing, and politically, the IRA was wrong.  You observe democracy or you dont.

Where does America stand in regards to turning the other cheek, and casting a stone?   Have America never sinned?  This note hasnt the space to print it, yet like the British,  the intention  was correct.   

The timeline of the Webly doesnt sound right, there were no automatics at the time of your fathers grandfather.    One of the failings of politicians is that they pointedly ignore everything that doesnt support their argument.  You have done that by not acknowledging that the north is a different culture, and it doing that, you are perpetuating division, and ultimately, war.   Things change, get used to  it.       By the way, the northern irish are bad.  If it wasnt for the british army, you would have lost....badly.

The celts, the irish scots and welsh are the baddest of all when it comes to war.   In earlier centuries before the gun, when England was at war, the opposition fled many times.

When they heard bagpipes, the scots have no fear, at all.

The Webley is a revolver. The Irish turned the other cheek; it got slapped also. At some point, you have to stand up to the bully. The IRA fought fire with fire; except, they didn't target women and children, they targeted military and police tyrants.

Democracy is Britan, we are a Republic, big difference.

(07-05-2022, 06:49 PM)BigMark Wrote: Mock is not mock anymore, it has evolved into a loving family.

Peacekeeper    

(07-07-2022, 09:53 AM)pyropappy Wrote:

(07-07-2022, 06:47 AM)Piglet Wrote:

(07-07-2022, 12:07 AM)pyropappy Wrote:

(07-06-2022, 06:30 PM)Piglet Wrote: Thats interesting, and on the surface, it is appropriate.   Oliver Cromwell, from my part of the world, Ely , didnt like the Irish, he went over there and murdered as many as he could, not really that nice.     At that time, murderous racism wasnt unusual. 

This will surprise you, Cromwell was the father of democracy, he insisted that the British parliament acted in the best interest of the British people, not in their regional best interest. and dissolved parliament  until parliament did his wishes.

He did it several times until it functioned properly.  He had to execute  King Charles at the time to be able to do it.    He was a hero, as well as being a bit hard on the Irish.

The Irish have a good reason to hate the English, back then.   Yes, back then.   The english occupied Northern Ireland for a long time, and eventually a new country emerged, a country called Northern Ireland who wanted to be governed by the English, not Ireland.

Northern Ireland is not English, its not Irish, its separate from both.

So this is the problem, Ireland want the north back, but the north doesnt want to know.  To get the north back, the IRA started a war against Britain, when Britain had no say over what was best for N Ireland.

America saw it from  the souths point of view, and funded the murder of british soldiers and civilians.  The British troops in Northern Ireland were peace keepers.   If they were not there, the north would have gone to war with the south, and  the bloodshed would have been enormous.

The solution was to observe democracy, when the north votes to rejoin the south, then all well and good.  Sin Fein, or the IRA now has MPS in the northern irish assembly, as seemingly have a majority in the populace.

I hope this makes sense.

That is the propaganda peddled by the limey parliament for centuries; you can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. The British Empire was a group of fops playing God. Did they do some good? Sure, but the evil far out shadows the good.

The hatred started with Cromwell, but there are plenty of more recent examples. The Famine, The Easter Rising, Black and Tans, The Battle of the Bogside, Ballymurphy Massacre, Bloody Sunday - the Bogside massacre and the hunger strike just to name a few.

My paternal grandfather, at the age of 17, walked the 50+ miles from his home to Dublin to participate in the Easter Rising. He lost his parents during the famine and was the ward of his older brother. His brother forbade him, but he went anyway.

As I have been told, his unit had a firefight with limey murders and wiped them out. They salvaged weapons and ammo from the dead and continued to fight. The next day he was wounded, patched up by the Cumann na mBan and walked home. He took the Webley MK6 pistol he retrieved off an officer he shot for protection.

When he got home his brother was furious and put him on the next boat to America.

My prized possession is that pistol. They will bury me with it.

As the song says, we have fought for 800 years, and we will fight for 800 more. I am a proud Republican; it is in my blood.


mann na mBan

I can see your point, the north was once Eire, now it isnt, but it may be again, and probably will in the near future, not through violence and hate, but through democracy.    In the Bible, Jesus said...he who has not sinned can cast the first stone.

Where does America stand on that observation.  Or Ireland.?   The atrocities by the IRA were mind blowing, and politically, the IRA was wrong.  You observe democracy or you dont.

Where does America stand in regards to turning the other cheek, and casting a stone?   Have America never sinned?  This note hasnt the space to print it, yet like the British,  the intention  was correct.   

The timeline of the Webly doesnt sound right, there were no automatics at the time of your fathers grandfather.    One of the failings of politicians is that they pointedly ignore everything that doesnt support their argument.  You have done that by not acknowledging that the north is a different culture, and it doing that, you are perpetuating division, and ultimately, war.   Things change, get used to  it.       By the way, the northern irish are bad.  If it wasnt for the british army, you would have lost....badly.

The celts, the irish scots and welsh are the baddest of all when it comes to war.   In earlier centuries before the gun, when England was at war, the opposition fled many times.

When they heard bagpipes, the scots have no fear, at all.

The Webley is a revolver. The Irish turned the other cheek; it got slapped also. At some point, you have to stand up to the bully. The IRA fought fire with fire; except, they didn't target women and children, they targeted military and police tyrants.

Democracy is Britan, we are a Republic, big difference.

There is a lot wrong with the above, it is good though as it will help you realise there are many sides to everything.  Please listen.   The IRA blew up women and children, there was the Birmingham bombings, as well as other outrages.  To the IRAs credit, they did give notice, of a few minutes at most.  Eire is not a republic, its a democracy.

It is a republic in a sense, from Britain, but it is a democracy.   As Brexiteer, i must argue that Eire  is not a democracy anymore, maybe in name, but a province of Europe, you are governed by the Hun and the Frogs.  Pardon my language.

Im not a youngster anymore, i cant recall if children were murdered, im sure they were.  You cant bomb stuff indiscriminately and not kill a child. 

Considering you are on your high horse, respond to this.  In the 1960s i was young, under 10, but bright enough to take notice of the news.  On the BBC, there were squadrons of B52S blanket bombing Vietnam, with Napalm.   Napalm is highly flammable, and if your lucky, you die of affixiation, if not you burn to death.   There was a famous photo of a running  ten year old girl, naked, her clothes burnt off, and screaming covered in burns.  

Men women, children, animals....all died.    Over vast areas of land, the Americans wanted to burn down the forests so the Vietcong could not hide.  Now compare that to Northern Ireland.

You say Britain is guilty, and by default, me.

WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT VIETNAM????     AMERICA.?     By your own attitude, you are GUILTY.   Am i getting through?   It happened, we have moved on.  Let it go.

As Jesus said,  he who has not sinned......

(07-08-2022, 06:54 AM)Piglet Wrote: There is a lot wrong with the above, it is good though as it will help you realise there are many sides to everything.  Please listen.   The IRA blew up women and children, there was the Birmingham bombings, as well as other outrages.  To the IRAs credit, they did give notice, of a few minutes at most.  Eire is not a republic, its a democracy.

It is a republic in a sense, from Britain, but it is a democracy.   As Brexiteer, i must argue that Eire  is not a democracy anymore, maybe in name, but a province of Europe, you are governed by the Hun and the Frogs.  Pardon my language.

Im not a youngster anymore, i cant recall if children were murdered, im sure they were.  You cant bomb stuff indiscriminately and not kill a child. 

Considering you are on your high horse, respond to this.  In the 1960s i was young, under 10, but bright enough to take notice of the news.  On the BBC, there were squadrons of B52S blanket bombing Vietnam, with Napalm.   Napalm is highly flammable, and if your lucky, you die of affixiation, if not you burn to death.   There was a famous photo of a running  ten year old girl, naked, her clothes burnt off, and screaming covered in burns.  

Men women, children, animals....all died.    Over vast areas of land, the Americans wanted to burn down the forests so the Vietcong could not hide.  Now compare that to Northern Ireland.

You say Britain is guilty, and by default, me.

WHAT DO YOU SAY ABOUT VIETNAM????     AMERICA.?     By your own attitude, you are GUILTY.   Am i getting through?   It happened, we have moved on.  Let it go.

As Jesus said,  he who has not sinned......

1) There is no such thing as "a democracy". There have been democratic societies, but those are few and far between. "Democracy" is a completely bastardized term that means just about nothing at this point in time -- how could it not, whith the extreme levels of corruption that exist in this world?

2) What was done in Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos was genocide. The US killed more people than Pol Pot. Many continued to die after we left because of the defoliants and land mines. Land mines are still blowing up people in Vietnam, though relatively few at this point. We never gave them the maps so they could sweep the minefields. Kissinger should have been hung by the neck until dead, along with a good many others, including Johnson and Nixon. Military aggression is enough to warrant that, what they did went far beyond that.

Truth be told, however, America was an Anglo-Zionist proxy at that point, controlled by the good folk at the Bank of England -- which is where most of our Gold ended up, starting with FDR, ending with Nixon. He who hath the gold, maketh the rules. You ought to know that, my good piggy. It's an incestous world we live in when it comes to finance and governance.

I have a friend from school who married a much older man, he had been in the Vietnam war and she once told me, after being married for several years, that the war had fucked him up in the head. She said it in MUCH more delicate terms than I just did.