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RE: Presidential race 2016 - cannongal - 09-22-2016
(09-22-2016, 05:03 AM)Duchess Wrote: I agree that the ground game is important and from everything I've heard & read she has a pretty good one. I can't be sure of this of course but she may feel your state is already in the bag.[/i][/size]
She may feel that, but a lot of people around me are still pissed over the whole Bernie thing...
Some have even started a write in Bernie campaign. Not sure that's going to help her.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 09-22-2016
(09-22-2016, 05:03 AM)Duchess Wrote:(09-22-2016, 03:05 AM)cannongal Wrote: she should be putting a lot more feet on the ground.
I agree that the ground game is important and from everything I've heard & read she has a pretty good one. I can't be sure of this of course but she may feel your state is already in the bag.
You're right. Clinton has an extensive, experienced, well-funded ground game and voter outreach mechanism and has since early in the campaign (and 2008, really). She's not sacrificing feet on the ground resources for advertising resources -- her campaign is doing both with plenty of funding for each.
Clinton's ground game was a big campaign advantage for her over Trump early on; he had no ground game at all then. But, he was highly effective at reaching voters with frequent and free media appearances and social media. That's where I wish she'd gotten up to speed and jazzed up her campaign strategies; I think it would have been beneficial for her to be seen and heard more by less traditional voters earlier on.
Anyway, Clinton's got about an 85% chance of winning the four NH electorates according to the current polls. I think her campaign was smart to send Sanders as her surrogate to rally voters there. It was also smart to absorb some of Sanders' feet on the ground and staffers there into her local campaigning effort once she won the nomination over Bernie.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - BigMark - 09-22-2016
![[Image: LTMHQq.gif]](https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-09-2015/LTMHQq.gif)
RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 09-23-2016
(09-22-2016, 10:18 PM)BigMark Wrote:
Looks like Mrs. C keeps a flask next to that bottle of hot sauce in her purse.
I think she's gonna stumble her ass right into the Oval Office, Biggie.
The first debate is on Monday - should be interesting, and possibly pretty amusing as well. I hope it's informative and issue-oriented, but I'm not holding my breath.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 09-23-2016
(09-23-2016, 12:22 AM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: The first debate is on Monday -
I've never been so excited to watch something in all my life. Trump will never be able to keep his act together for a full 90 minutes. It's my fervent hope that I see a full on public meltdown BUT it's still 3 days away and anything can go down between now & then. I'm still not convinced he's going to go through with this. I sure hope I'm wrong.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 09-23-2016
I don't doubt that Trump will be on that debate stage on Monday night.
I'd absolutely love it if a real-time fact check banner was running during the debate broadcast, but it doesn't appear that's going to happen.
I'm guessing that Clinton will be prepared to bust open some of Trump's most repeated lies and fabrications during the debate, but there's no way she can call out all of his bullshit if he continues to spew it at rapid pace like he did in the primary debates, rallies, and during his media appearances.
Anyway, I hope Clinton stays focused on her plans/policies, calls out Trump falsities when it matters (without getting unfocused), and uses humor to laugh him off if he personally attacks her rather than getting overly defensive.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Maggot - 09-23-2016
He may be able to get her to cry and not just alligator tears.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 09-23-2016
Clinton is many things, but a cry baby sure ain't one of them, in my humble opinion.
I don't expect her to lose her cool in the debate, no matter which Donald J. Trump shows up on Monday night.
Lester Holt will moderate Monday night's 90-minute debate which starts at 9:00 pm EST. The topics of focus were just announced:
--America's Direction
--Prosperity
--Securing America
http://www.debates.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=66&cntnt01origid=27&cntnt01detailtemplate=newspage&cntnt01returnid=80
RE: Presidential race 2016 - HairOfTheDog - 09-23-2016
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Well, that "lyin' weasel" Ted Cruz announced today that he will vote for that "pathological liar" Donald Trump. Those are among the kinder ways the two described each other during the primaries.
Cruz reportedly took the opportunity to get in line with the Republican base when Trump announced today that he would nominate Mike Lee to the Supreme Court (Lee says he's not interested, but Cruz is a fan of Lee).
Cruz also cited the fact that he considers Hillary Clinton wholly unqualified to be president as one of his reasons for finally giving in and getting behind Trump; 'only Trump can stop Hillary', he says.
I respected Cruz's decision to stand his ground at the Republican Convention. But, political analysts say that, even if Trump loses, Cruz and his team figure it will probably be better for him to have kept his promise to support the party nominee when he's up for senate re-election in two years and likely runs for president again in 2020.
I don't know how much Cruz's support helps Trump at this point, but it sure can't hurt in terms of positioning Trump as able to unite the fractured party.
Ref: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-rival-cruz-to-throw-support-to-gop-nominee-228584
RE: Presidential race 2016 - BlueTiki - 09-23-2016
Fuck the little Eddie Munster douchebag!
He just showed the world he's a sellout.
I hope a biracial, tranny, Muslim gets his Senate seat.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 09-23-2016
My God. Not even enough spine to draw the line when it comes to his family. It's sickening.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - BlueTiki - 09-23-2016
C'mon . . .
Trump was spot-on about his wife.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 09-23-2016
Heidi wouldn't plagiarize.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - BlueTiki - 09-23-2016
Even Bill Clinton wouldn't bang her.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 09-23-2016
Ah, Bill.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Duchess - 09-23-2016
In all seriousness, how do you endorse someone who has treated your family so badly? Is nothing sacred in politics? I understand the personal slams, I don't like it but I get it. For Cruz to endorse fuckface is beyond my understanding. There is nothing, and I mean nothing that could ever outweigh fuckin' with my loved ones.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - FAHQTOO - 09-23-2016
(09-23-2016, 04:25 PM)Duchess Wrote:
In all seriousness, how do you endorse someone who has treated your family so badly? Is nothing sacred in politics? I understand the personal slams, I don't like it but I get it. For Cruz to endorse fuckface is beyond my understanding. There is nothing, and I mean nothing that could ever outweigh fuckin' with my loved ones.
Political people sell their souls to the debil.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Blindgreed1 - 09-23-2016
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-headed-for-a-win-says-professor-who-has-predicted-30-years-of-presidential-outcomes-correctly/ar-BBwx9WT?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
30 years she hasn't been wrong.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Maggot - 09-23-2016
Whoever wins it will be fun to point the finger at them. Trump will be an outsider in Washington and that is whats needed. But he may bring change. Clinton will be the same old stuff. Eh...............The same was said about Reagan, Kennedy and yup.........Obama. I'm still here.
RE: Presidential race 2016 - Clang McFly - 09-23-2016
(09-23-2016, 01:08 PM)HairOfTheDog Wrote: --America's Direction(down the toilet if Trump wins)
--Prosperity(Let's throw money at our problems and hope they go away)
--Securing America(Wall Building For Dummies(Trump and his supporters)