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EQUAL PAY - Carsman - 09-28-2021
Should employers be required to pay men and women the same salary for the same job?
Yes or No?
IMO:
Yes.
There should not be a glass ceiling for women. Pay should only be based on job performance, experience, reliability, education, and work ethic.
It doesn't matter if they are a man, or a woman, both deserve the same pay if
doing the same job.
Every person should be scrutinized under the same requirements.
RE: EQUAL PAY - rothschild - 09-29-2021
Equal pay for equal performance? Sure, but is that really what we're talking about today? Does the WNBA perform at the same level as the NBA? No, not even close.
On the flip side of the equation, do biological women perform at the same level as trans women? No, not even close.
As robots increasingly become the norm, maybe then the lemmings will realize the folly of their mindless support of "equality". Maybe.
RE: EQUAL PAY - pyropappy - 09-29-2021
I don't know any business owners that based compensation on sex; they base it on performance and productivity. It is a simple game, the more profit you generate the more compensation you are worth.
RE: EQUAL PAY - Carsman - 09-29-2021
(09-29-2021, 06:31 AM)rothschild Wrote: Equal pay for equal performance? Sure, but is that really what we're talking about today? Does the WNBA perform at the same level as the NBA? No, not even close.
WNBA & NBA are two different jobs. If women were able to perform in the NBA with men, then they would be doing the exact same job, and should receive equal pay.
On the flip side of the equation, do biological women perform at the same level as trans women? No, not even close.
Apples and oranges
As robots increasingly become the norm, maybe then the lemmings will realize the folly of their mindless support of "equality". Maybe.
RE: EQUAL PAY - Carsman - 09-29-2021
(09-29-2021, 07:34 AM)pyropappy Wrote: I don't know any business owners that based compensation on sex; they base it on performance and productivity. It is a simple game, the more profit you generate the more compensation you are worth.
That doesn't mean UN-equal compensation doesn't exist.
When I was working (for a large defense co) and I became the engineering
Dept mgr I inherited 177 people, 34 were women. And I saw their salaries, every woman was paid 25 to 35% less then the men, and the women were doing the exact same job!
Over the years, I slowly tried to rectify that situation. I still had VP's to report
that were cost conscious.
RE: EQUAL PAY - BigMark - 09-29-2021
women get what they deserve, yo.
RE: EQUAL PAY - MirahM - 09-29-2021
(09-29-2021, 10:07 PM)Carsman Wrote:(09-29-2021, 07:34 AM)pyropappy Wrote: I don't know any business owners that based compensation on sex; they base it on performance and productivity. It is a simple game, the more profit you generate the more compensation you are worth.
That doesn't mean UN-equal compensation doesn't exist.
When I was working (for a large defense co) and I became the engineering
Dept mgr I inherited 177 people, 34 were women. And I saw their salaries, every woman was paid 25 to 35% less then the men, and the women were doing the exact same job!
Over the years, I slowly tried to rectify that situation. I still had VP's to report
that were cost conscious.
Good job looking out.
Some people don't believe that this exists.
RE: EQUAL PAY - rothschild - 09-30-2021
(09-29-2021, 09:44 PM)Carsman Wrote:(09-29-2021, 06:31 AM)rothschild Wrote: Equal pay for equal performance? Sure, but is that really what we're talking about today? Does the WNBA perform at the same level as the NBA? No, not even close.
WNBA & NBA are two different jobs. If women were able to perform in the NBA with men, then they would be doing the exact same job, and should receive equal pay.
On the flip side of the equation, do biological women perform at the same level as trans women? No, not even close.
Apples and oranges
As robots increasingly become the norm, maybe then the lemmings will realize the folly of their mindless support of "equality". Maybe.
Apples and watermelons, is that a level playing field? Welcome to "equality".
RE: EQUAL PAY - rothschild - 09-30-2021
Seriously, Cars, government can't fix it's own shit, so why do you think it should be entrusted to fix anyone else's?
RE: EQUAL PAY - Carsman - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 02:53 AM)rothschild Wrote: Seriously, Cars, government can't fix it's own shit, so why do you think it should be entrusted to fix anyone else's?
Defense companies have government contracts, but they are not run by the government.
Managing the company is run by by private individuals, not politicians.
RE: EQUAL PAY - rothschild - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 09:21 PM)Carsman Wrote:(09-30-2021, 02:53 AM)rothschild Wrote: Seriously, Cars, government can't fix it's own shit, so why do you think it should be entrusted to fix anyone else's?
Defense companies have government contracts, but they are not run by the government.
Managing the company is run by by private individuals, not politicians.
Should employers be required to pay men and women the same salary for the same job?
RE: EQUAL PAY - Carsman - 09-30-2021
(09-30-2021, 09:28 PM)rothschild Wrote:(09-30-2021, 09:21 PM)Carsman Wrote:(09-30-2021, 02:53 AM)rothschild Wrote: Seriously, Cars, government can't fix it's own shit, so why do you think it should be entrusted to fix anyone else's?
Defense companies have government contracts, but they are not run by the government.
Managing the company is run by by private individuals, not politicians.
Should employers be required to pay men and women the same salary for the same job?
See post 1
RE: EQUAL PAY - sally - 09-30-2021
Who fucking cares? I'm not sitting around with my ass frosted over this shit. It doesn't affect me. When my daughter was born we nicknamed her the fat boss lady.
RE: EQUAL PAY - rothschild - 10-01-2021
(09-30-2021, 11:12 PM)Carsman Wrote:(09-30-2021, 09:28 PM)rothschild Wrote:(09-30-2021, 09:21 PM)Carsman Wrote:(09-30-2021, 02:53 AM)rothschild Wrote: Seriously, Cars, government can't fix it's own shit, so why do you think it should be entrusted to fix anyone else's?
Defense companies have government contracts, but they are not run by the government.
Managing the company is run by by private individuals, not politicians.
Should employers be required to pay men and women the same salary for the same job?
See post 1
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RE: EQUAL PAY - Carsman - 10-01-2021
(09-30-2021, 11:57 PM)sally Wrote: Who fucking cares? I'm not sitting around with my ass frosted over this shit. It doesn't affect me. When my daughter was born we nicknamed her the fat boss lady.
You would fucking care if your ass was working up on the roof with the guys, and you were doing the same job they were. But you were getting paid 35% less then them!
RE: EQUAL PAY - Duchess - 10-02-2021
She's pretty self involved, she doesn't give a fuck about too much that doesn't involve her.
RE: EQUAL PAY - rothschild - 10-02-2021
(10-01-2021, 11:51 PM)Carsman Wrote:(09-30-2021, 11:57 PM)sally Wrote: Who fucking cares? I'm not sitting around with my ass frosted over this shit. It doesn't affect me. When my daughter was born we nicknamed her the fat boss lady.
You would fucking care if your ass was working up on the roof with the guys, and you were doing the same job they were. But you were getting paid 35% less then them!
Does the government pay women 35% less to stay home and do nothing?
RE: EQUAL PAY - Maggot - 10-02-2021
Maybe everyone should just disclose their pay so they could see the glaring difference in pay. That should work out well. LOL.
RE: EQUAL PAY - Duchess - 10-02-2021
Made me laugh too.
RE: EQUAL PAY - rothschild - 10-02-2021
I feel terrible for those underpaid women roofers! All 3 of them.