New York Votes Yes to Gay Marriage

[Duchess]

I've never done a dating service & I never would. If my personality is such that I can't meet someone the old fashion way, fuck it.

[IMaDick]

Poor cracker, it would just love for anything it says to be true.

That's the problem crackwhore, once you started to live an internet life that is a complete pile of dog shit, all you ever have is dog shit.

I know that my crack about all of your kids having different dads probably hit close to home, but fuck "it" you're reaching around and that is more than likely a reference to you and your elevator rides.

[IMaDick]

I've never done a dating service & I never would. If my personality is such that I can't meet someone the old fashion way, fuck it.

old fashioned? you mean like the oldest profession or drinking and putting out on the first date type of old fashioned?

[Duchess]

old fashioned? you mean like the oldest profession or drinking and putting out on the first date type of old fashioned?

No, you boob. For example, in the park, I could accidently on purpose nail him with the frisbee and that would open the door to talking to him. Heh

[WolfHouse]

Info on the Four Republicans who voted for Gay Marriage in New York State.
via the NY Post.

The four Republicans know their votes could cost them their political careers, but said they felt compelled to do what they now believe is the right thing.

Alesi, an eight-term senator, last week became the first GOPer to switch sides. Two years ago he voted no on gay marriage, a move he later admitted was agonizing but politically-motivated to protect the Republican conference, which was in the minority at the time.

He has said he hopes to travel across the country to solicit Republican support for gay marriage in other states.

McDonald, a two-term senator, was next as he reversed his previous opposition to gay marriage last week as well. The former military man said he has evolved on the issue and even became a brief internet sensation when he said to critics: "F--- it, I don't care what you think. I'm trying to do the right thing."

He said he has since received threats and fully expects a primary next year.

Heading into Friday's vote, all eyes were on Saland, a 10-term senator, and Grisanti, a freshman to the chamber.


Freshman Senator Mark Grisanti was key to the bill's passage. (Mike Groll/AP)

Saland, known for his scholarly demeanor, voted against gay marriage in 2009. He didn't tip his hand until he spoke on the floor Friday in support of an amendment he helped craft to protect religious groups that refuse to cater to gay couples.

He said he received scores of emails and letters on the issue. He spoke of coming from a traditional background, but having parents who always taught him to "do the right thing."

"My intellectual and emotional journey has ended here today, and I have to define doing the right thing as treating all people with equality," Saland said.

Grisanti's evolution was more stunning. He had run for office last year opposed to gay marriage.

A freshman senator representing a mainly Democratic district, Grisanti said he was having a hard time reconciling his Catholic upbringing that stressed marriage was only between one man and one woman and his belief as a lawyer that everyone is entitled to the same basic rights.


Gay marriage supporters rejoice in Albany. (Hans Pennink/AP)

He vacillated for weeks before casting a vote he knew could end his political career. He apologized to those upset that he changed his stance since being elected.

"A man can be wiser today than yesterday, but there would be no respect for him if he has failed his duty to do the work," Grisanti concluded.

[ramseycat]

So are you saying that it's O K for them to work all their lives and pay into the same funds as heterosexuals but should expect nothing back? Don't they deserve equality in ALL aspects of the American Experience?

What? You think gays don't get SS or Medicare? Because they do. I specifically said SPOUSAL BENEFITS.

I'm saying it will fuck our economy even more. Being pragmatic isn't always PC. I don't mind gays, love the gays, but the spousal benefits issue is a problem.

Male/female spousal benefits were made so women that stayed home to have babies would have income when they got old. I can even see this for gay couples who have children and one person stays home. For gay unions with no kids, sorry, can't afford you.

If same sex marriages will get full benefits, I'm marrying some old dyke so I can have her share of benefits when she dies. She just can't live here or touch my tootie.

Any takers?

This may have been addressed but I didn't read all the way down. My mother worked all her life until she was in her 50's. Both her and my father paid into SS. She collects his because his is higher since he always made more money. I have always worked all my life. If I don't remarry, I can collect my exes SS is it's more than mine since we were married over 10 years. And well if he is dead. So spousal benefits are not just for SAHM.