11-09-2011, 08:24 PM
Johnny S. Clarke & Lisa Straub- young Ohio couple murdered
|
11-10-2011, 12:14 AM
(11-09-2011, 08:17 PM)kitty1 Wrote:(11-09-2011, 07:57 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i stated it also upon her arrest. it's easy to miss posts in here. or forget things.So true! Sometimes I am so tired, but I just have to check out the thread for any new stuff and I end up speed reading and missing stuff. Lay off those Nutty Bars & Zebra Cakes (I didn't miss how you like to separate the Nutty Bar Layers even). Purchase Dried Apricots & Figs and you wouldn't be so tired. LOL
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone."
Henry David Thoreau
11-10-2011, 07:30 AM
(11-09-2011, 07:52 PM)kitty1 Wrote:(11-07-2011, 09:54 PM)Sphincter Cop Wrote:(11-07-2011, 09:49 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: Did I read here that Destiny and Sam dated at one time ?? I read all of your posts Kitty.
Spay and neuter your dogs and cats. Ban gas chambers in your local shelters. User made the call. User made a difference!
11-10-2011, 11:51 AM
(11-08-2011, 10:51 PM)Adub Wrote: AC is the individual that Johnny sold his car to. And then she wrecked it blah, blah, blah. Old ass rumors. Rumor or not, it is a pertinent statement that declares a connection to the deceased, as well as commenting that this AC is the ex of "AP." Is this the same AP that was denounced by the mother of the victim? I would like to know more about the relationship (if anyone knows) between AC and the deceased. When did she buy this car, was it paid for, did it cause an issue? Did the victim date this AC? Could there be more than one "AP"? Does this girl (AC) have a connection to those in custody related to this case? It seems that the information in regards to those in custody, and anyone who could be associated with them is nil at best. Other than the off topic that I read here from time to time. It's almost as bad as the media coverage in Ohio.
11-10-2011, 12:13 PM
(11-09-2011, 01:37 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: i cannot get Lucas County booking to work for me today, but my internet provider has been crap since last night. I just managed to figure out their "user friendly" website. Who the fuck invented that bullshit? Anyway.... It says that this "AC" was released yesterday. (11-09-2011, 01:37 PM)Lady Cop Wrote: she's just a nasty local skank. The local skank? How bad could she be then?
11-10-2011, 12:48 PM
I asked a friend who is local to the area if she was familiar with the Bedford Inn. She assures me it is known for drugs and hookers. I wonder if there is a room "544" there?
11-10-2011, 12:54 PM
(11-10-2011, 11:51 AM)Sphincter Cop Wrote:(11-08-2011, 10:51 PM)Adub Wrote: AC is the individual that Johnny sold his car to. And then she wrecked it blah, blah, blah. Old ass rumors. The car sito was discussed somewhere a thousand pages back. And yes, AP and AG are one in the same. Johnny sold a car to AP's ex girlfriend and a member here said word on the street was ... that the ex felt that she got screwed by the car deal and had it out for Johnny. This was probably back in March. But I can't really remember.
11-10-2011, 01:14 PM
(11-10-2011, 12:54 PM)Adub Wrote:(11-10-2011, 11:51 AM)Sphincter Cop Wrote:(11-08-2011, 10:51 PM)Adub Wrote: AC is the individual that Johnny sold his car to. And then she wrecked it blah, blah, blah. Old ass rumors. yes, AC dated both AP/AG and Johnny. She has been arrested 3 times that we know of since the murder, at least once for robbery. Interesting coincidences: - When TW's ex Donald Corrigan was shot and killed during a robbery, he was at AC's apartment. At that time, AG was dating AC and TW was dating Donald G - Maytee and AG both made references months back to some kind of conflict between AC and Johnny...the car situation and Johnny supposedly owing her money - AC deleted her FB a couple of months ago but several of her family members are FB friends with Sammy and Cameo's girlfriends on FB (VM and SC) - AC left town for several weeks after the murders. Her FB status was something to the effect of laying low and getting her in life in order. Didn't last very long because she was back and arrested in Toledo not long after
11-10-2011, 02:01 PM
(11-10-2011, 01:14 PM)Nina Wrote: Interesting coincidences: Yes Nina those are very interesting especially the last. The only thing that has shocked me about this murder and the suspects is generally murders as violent as these are almost never one time occurrences, there is generally other violent behavior. Now Sammy seems to have that yet only towards women (maybe it's just to people he feels he can control). Yet everything for Cameo just seems to be anti-social behavior drugs/robbery/etc but I can't remember anything specifically violent. I'm not saying it can't happen it's just odd for this heinous of a crime (beating and suffocation are very traumatic to watch if one is not already displaying socio-pathic tendencies). My initial belief was that CP and SW went there with the intent of scaring both maybe double teaming Johnny and after both Johnny and Lisa were subdued SW lost control. Your last bullet though makes me think the other individuals involved are definitely violent and are very prone to this behavior. If the others were violent I have no doubt SW and CP would get violent as group think is very irrational and dangerous.
"I’m not going to cry over it. I already did that on the way home." - Michael Scott
11-10-2011, 03:15 PM
(11-10-2011, 02:01 PM)MikeyA Wrote:(11-10-2011, 01:14 PM)Nina Wrote: Interesting coincidences:Yet everything for Cameo just seems to be anti-social behavior drugs/robbery/etc but I can't remember anything specifically violent. I'm not saying it can't happen it's just odd for this heinous of a crime (beating and suffocation are very traumatic to watch if one is not already displaying socio-pathic tendencies). Case Information - Criminal/Traffic back to: Search Search Results Please click on the case number for additional case information. Print Results (click on the column headings text to sort by that column) Case Number Defendant Date of Birth Charge CRA-10-19913-0101 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 ASSAULT KNOWINGLY ATTEMPT OR CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO ANOTHER OR ANOTHER'S UNBORN amended from FELONIOUS ASSAULT WEAPON OR ORDNANCE CRB-09-18043-0101 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO FAMILY OR HOUSEHOLD MEMBER CRB-10-11504-0102 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 OBSTRUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS CRB-10-11504-0202 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 DRUG ABUSE;CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE POSS/USE CRB-11-10034-0103 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO FAMILY OR HOUSEHOLD MEMBER CRB-11-10034-0203 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 ASSAULT NO PERSON SHALL KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO ANOTHER CRB-11-10034-0303 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 ASSAULT NO PERSON SHALL KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO ANOTHER CRB-11-13430-0102 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO FAMILY OR HOUSEHOLD MEMBER CRB-11-13430-0202 PETTAWAY, CAMEO 05/05/1989 ASSAULT NO PERSON SHALL KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO http://tmc-clerk.com/criminaltraffic/Default.aspx
11-10-2011, 03:19 PM
(11-10-2011, 01:14 PM)Nina Wrote: - AC deleted her FB a couple of months ago but several of her family members are FB friends with Sammy and Cameo's girlfriends on FB (VM and SC) Okay, so with the claims of the car being an issue in the past. Can we theorize that another possible scenerio would be ~ AC managed to convince her friends to act on her behalf over this money or car? Anyone else find it odd that this AC is starting to pop up all over the place? Interesting information as to her prior relationships and criminal record. Looks like another winner to me! The deleting of her FB is very suspicious, and her claims of laying low and getting her life together. Sounds like regret to me. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the end or its another wild goose chase. Interesting nonetheless!
11-10-2011, 03:20 PM
Destiny Madrid aka Baby d
nformation - Criminal/Traffic back to: Search Search Results Please click on the case number for additional case information. Print Results (click on the column headings text to sort by that column) Case Number Defendant Date of Birth Charge CRB-09-16675-0101 MADRID, DESTINY 01/25/1990 OBSTRUCTING OFFICIAL BUSINESS CRB-10-18152-0101 MADRID, DESTINY 01/25/1990 BEER ORLIQUOR;UNDERAGE PERSON ORDER, PAY, SHARE, CONSUME OR POSSESS IN PUBLIC OR PRIVATE PLACE CRB-11-11774-0101 MADRID, DESTINY 01/25/1990 ASSAULT NO PERSON SHALL KNOWINGLY CAUSE OR ATTEMPT TO CAUSE PHYSICAL HARM TO ANOTHER General Disclaimer http://tmc-clerk.com/criminaltraffic/Default.aspx
11-10-2011, 03:38 PM
(11-10-2011, 03:19 PM)Sphincter Cop Wrote: Okay, so with the claims of the car being an issue in the past. Can we theorize that another possible scenerio would be ~ AC managed to convince her friends to act on her behalf over this money or car?It is interesting about the car. I think the discussion started here: (03-26-2011, 04:28 PM)falling_sky420 Wrote: Heard a rumor that johnny was selling his car to TW and she paid him 800 dollars for it and he went around and sold the car to someone else....Motive maybe? 800 dollars is a come up depending on who you are....I also know more but this is all RUMORS i have heard from the neighborhood...just wanted to put it out there. And it got interesting here: (03-27-2011, 11:14 AM)pspence Wrote: Maytee on Justice Will Prevail ... If the car is the catalyst, it would certainly explain the revenge nature of the crime.
11-10-2011, 05:19 PM
WOW.
This was one of my earliest theories...that the car started this mess. BUT, I just couldnt see someone going this route over a car deal.... then again...people die for less than 20 bucks all the time...or for nothing. Certainly something to think about...
You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
11-10-2011, 05:27 PM
(11-07-2011, 07:28 AM)pspence Wrote: I'm taking a poll among Mockers. 1. Yes...she at least new OF at least one of them. There are too many mutual ties. Another point...people from that area that have posted, said that area is much like a small town, ie: everyone knows everyone. 2. Yes, I do. Same reason as above, but added that they took classes at Owens. 3.Absolutely. 4.I am on the fence with this one. I can see how it could happen, that she would be in the wrong place at the wrong time...happens alot in the hood. Be careful who you associate with. HOWEVER, there are just too many connections between AG/TW and both accused. Way too much to just discount. Something is dirty with the TW thing. My gut feeling tells me not to trust her denials...
You are missed...RIP Lady Cop
11-10-2011, 05:33 PM
(11-10-2011, 03:15 PM)undercovercameo Wrote: Case Information - Criminal/Traffic Thanks Undercover I didn't know or remember this about Cameo. Most I remember were arrests for nonviolent crimes. Yeah it's sad if all this comes down to $800 fucking dollars over some POS car.
"I’m not going to cry over it. I already did that on the way home." - Michael Scott
11-10-2011, 06:22 PM
Samuel Williams and Cameo Pettaway are both COWARDS as we all know both of them have threatened women in their lives. AC finds out the Straub's will be gone on a cruise so she contacts Sam & Cam and the trio head over there, AC provides the duct tape and the bags.
None of it adds up to me Sam and Cam for one thing are not going to the electric chair for AC. Time will tell! Maytee raised hell about TW & AG after the murders she didn't rant on and on and on about AC. I think AC is a very scared girl and after the murders got rid of facebook TW & AG were taking the heat polygraph tests etc., and thought "they could come after me" she had made threatening phone calls to Maytee.
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone."
Henry David Thoreau
11-10-2011, 08:16 PM
Undercovercameo, a question regarding Destiny Madrid aka baby d - did you see CS? is this her real father?
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone."
Henry David Thoreau
11-10-2011, 08:33 PM
11-10-2011, 09:01 PM
(11-10-2011, 08:33 PM)undercovercameo Wrote:(11-10-2011, 08:16 PM)NightOwl Wrote: Undercovercameo, a question regarding Destiny Madrid aka baby d - did you see CS? is this her real father? Thanks!
"A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone."
Henry David Thoreau |
« Next Oldest | Next Newest »
|