Arizona Takes A Big Step Back. WARNING, GRAPHIC!

[IMaDick]

Thank you, HOTD.

OK, Dick, looking at the forest instead of the trees, do the facts support your position or mine?

Ok call me stupid but when did we get a new President?

who owned it after that or actually before that.

unless I have completely lost my mind the promise was 16 months.

http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelands...aIrqWr.htm

at some point a President owns his own shit.

Bush started shit no doubt but who continued it business as usual?

Afghaistan is Obamas right? where are we there for troop numbers and well success "cough" ?

how many of that original coalition still exisits? does Afghanistan have UN support?

Iraq is over by the way.

[Disciple]

Thank you, HOTD.

OK, Dick, looking at the forest instead of the trees, do the facts support your position or mine?

Ok call me stupid but when did we get a new President?

who owned it after that or actually before that.

unless I have completely lost my mind the promise was 16 months.

http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelands...aIrqWr.htm

at some point a President owns his own shit.

Bush started shit no doubt but who continued it business as usual?

Afghaistan is Obamas right? where are we there for troop numbers and well success "cough" ?

how many of that original coalition still exisits? does Afghanistan have UN support?

Iraq is over by the way.

OK. You're stupid.

Iraq: the bigger the mess, the longer it takes to clean up and get out, especially when you have the Rabid Right to contend with.

Afghanistan: you mean the war Bush had won before his ADD took over, he launched the useless war in Iraq and gave the Taliban a new lease on life?

Face saving, old timer, like Viet Nam 73 - 75. Peace with honor. You've heard the litany before.

Withdrawal and Taliban/Pakistan victory are inevitable.

But we must save face, especially in an election year.

[IMaDick]

Thank you, HOTD.

OK, Dick, looking at the forest instead of the trees, do the facts support your position or mine?

Ok call me stupid but when did we get a new President?

who owned it after that or actually before that.

unless I have completely lost my mind the promise was 16 months.

http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelands...aIrqWr.htm

at some point a President owns his own shit.

Bush started shit no doubt but who continued it business as usual?

Afghaistan is Obamas right? where are we there for troop numbers and well success "cough" ?

how many of that original coalition still exisits? does Afghanistan have UN support?

Iraq is over by the way.

OK. You're stupid.

Iraq: the bigger the mess, the longer it takes to clean up and get out, especially when you have the Rabid Right to contend with.

Afghanistan: you mean the war Bush had won before his ADD took over, he launched the useless war in Iraq and gave the Taliban a new lease on life?

Face saving, old timer, like Viet Nam 73 - 75. Peace with honor. You've heard the litany before.

Withdrawal and Taliban/Pakistan victory are inevitable.

But we must save face, especially in an election year.

Ok no answers I kinda figured it would be excuses and not answers.

Obama owned both wars when he became President, and most assuredly after 16 months after becoming President.

Obama increased the troop in Afghanistan didn't he? He has been calling the shots hasn't he?

Sorry being Commander and chief is what it is.

[IMaDick]

Since hawaii said that there was no long form BC where did the Long Form BC that was submitted to the internet come from?

[Duchess]

Since hawaii said that there was no long form BC where did the Long Form BC that was submitted to the internet come from?

Speaking only for myself, I don't know, I don't care & I'm not concerned. I am not defending Obama, I simply feel positive that if there were something to be found it would have been found years ago. Even Bill O'Reilly, for fucks sake, believes Obama is an American, Bill O'Reilly!

[IMaDick]

I'm sure He is an American also.

So why the bullshit with the BC?

There is only one reason that makes any sense.

[Disciple]

Thank you, HOTD.

OK, Dick, looking at the forest instead of the trees, do the facts support your position or mine?

Ok call me stupid but when did we get a new President?

who owned it after that or actually before that.

unless I have completely lost my mind the promise was 16 months.

http://usliberals.about.com/od/homelands...aIrqWr.htm

at some point a President owns his own shit.

Bush started shit no doubt but who continued it business as usual?

Afghaistan is Obamas right? where are we there for troop numbers and well success "cough" ?

how many of that original coalition still exisits? does Afghanistan have UN support?

Iraq is over by the way.

OK. You're stupid.

Iraq: the bigger the mess, the longer it takes to clean up and get out, especially when you have the Rabid Right to contend with.

Afghanistan: you mean the war Bush had won before his ADD took over, he launched the useless war in Iraq and gave the Taliban a new lease on life?

Face saving, old timer, like Viet Nam 73 - 75. Peace with honor. You've heard the litany before.

Withdrawal and Taliban/Pakistan victory are inevitable.

But we must save face, especially in an election year.

Ok no answers I kinda figured it would be excuses and not answers.

Obama owned both wars when he became President, and most assuredly after 16 months after becoming President.

Obama increased the troop in Afghanistan didn't he? He has been calling the shots hasn't he?

Sorry being Commander and chief is what it is.

Ok, Dick, let's be real here. You're a big boy and have some knowledge of how the world works.

Obama didn't "own" the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He was saddled with them. And the responsibility for cleaning up the messes.

Increase our military strength? Yes, when things were dismal and it looked like we were getting chased out of there.

Do you really think that he EVER had the option of just ordering an immediate withdrawal of US forces from Afghanistan? Political suicide.

Also, you don't need a crystal ball to imagine what the effect would be on our international relations after a 180 degree turnaround (viewed as us running with our tails between our legs) in a war that we have spent 10 years hyping.

Then go to the members of the armed forces (ours and our allies) and their families (especially with service members who came home wounded or didn't come home at all) with a message that says "It was all a mistake. Your sacrifice was meaningless".

Bush's mess. Obama's problem.

Public relations, Dick.

Real world and real world politics.

Enough of an answer for you?

[Ma Huang Sor]

Dick says: Afghaistan is Obamas right? where are we there for troop numbers and well success "cough" ?

Actually Afghanistan was Cheney's. Don't forget the Pipeline Project.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Oil_Pipeline

[IMaDick]

Dick says: Afghaistan is Obamas right? where are we there for troop numbers and well success "cough" ?

Actually Afghanistan was Cheney's. Don't forget the Pipeline Project.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan_Oil_Pipeline

Are you going to tell me Obama was ignorant of the wars when he ran for the office of Commander and cheif?

he is quoted at 16 months to a full withdraw after he is elected.



If you would read and be intellectually honest you would have seen that I already said that and I never used the word immediate, that is your word and you own it just like obama owns the last 3 ¹⁄₂ years.

The war in Iraq wasn't a mess I think when obama took office they had already held an election, had a government in place and were working toward being on their own.

As for afghaistan Obama voted for that war saying that it was the right place and the war was just and right.

Now you can choose to ignore all of that if you want to, but as for me and my house we will not.

[Duchess]

Then go to the members of the armed forces (ours and our allies) and their families (especially with service members who came home wounded or didn't come home at all) with a message that says "It was all a mistake. Your sacrifice was meaningless".

I'm pretty sure many families with loved ones who have been there know that their special people were killed or maimed for nothing. If they don't they are blind, deaf & dumb.

[IMaDick]

But all deflections and distractions aside Ma,

Hawaii said there was no long form BC, if that is true then where did the long form BC that was released by the whitehouse come from?

[Cynical Ninja]

But all deflections and distractions aside Ma,

Hawaii said there was no long form BC, if that is true then where did the long form BC that was released by the whitehouse come from?

Jesus Christ when even Bill O'Reilly is telling you you are talking out your ass about Obamas BC its time to man up and close your anus on the whole thing.

Seriously.

[IMaDick]

But all deflections and distractions aside Ma,

Hawaii said there was no long form BC, if that is true then where did the long form BC that was released by the whitehouse come from?

Jesus Christ when even Bill O'Reilly is telling you you are talking out your ass about Obamas BC its time to man up and close your anus on the whole thing.

Seriously.

Did anyone hear something? it sounded like cracked walnuts hitting a padded wall?

I already posted that Hawaii said there was no long form BC.

Just the Live birth record that was realsed a few years ago, now if that is true where did the long form BC come from that was released just a few months ago come from?

I know you don't understand this shit CN which why I tell you all the fucking time to butt out of US politics.

By the way, europe owes the US more than a trillion Dollars, maybe you could have a talk with your government and tell them to pay their fucking bill?

You freeloading Motherfuckers.

[Duchess]

You freeloading Motherfuckers.

That makes a case for us to be called the same thing given the chunk of change we owe China...just sayin'.

[IMaDick]

But all deflections and distractions aside Ma,

Hawaii said there was no long form BC, if that is true then where did the long form BC that was released by the whitehouse come from?

Jesus Christ when even Bill O'Reilly is telling you you are talking out your ass about Obamas BC its time to man up and close your anus on the whole thing.

Seriously.

Did anyone hear something? it sounded like cracked walnuts hitting a padded wall?

I already posted that Hawaii said there was no long form BC.

Just the Live birth record that was realsed a few years ago, now if that is true where did the long form BC come from that was released just a few months ago come from?

I know you don't understand this shit CN which why I tell you all the fucking time to butt out of US politics.

By the way, europe owes the US more than a trillion Dollars, maybe you could have a talk with your government and tell them to pay their fucking bill?

You freeloading Motherfuckers.

[Cynical Ninja]

Did anyone hear something? it sounded like cracked walnuts hitting a padded wall?

I already posted that Hawaii said there was no long form BC.

Just the Live birth record that was realsed a few years ago, now if that is true where did the long form BC come from that was released just a few months ago come from?

I know you don't understand this shit CN which why I tell you all the fucking time to butt out of US politics.

By the way, europe owes the US more than a trillion Dollars, maybe you could have a talk with your government and tell them to pay their fucking bill?

You freeloading Motherfuckers.

The fact you are still talking about the motherfucking BC when a right wing rivet head like Bill O'Reilly has rightfully dismissed any notion of Obama being anything but a natural born American just proves once again what a stupid pea brained fuckwit you are.

The "birther movement" is dead and buried because it doesn't have an ounce of credibility left yet there are complete retards like you still clinging on to it like a monkey in a tornado.

For the sake of whats left of your fucking sanity LET IT GO!

As for the UK owing you money?, EVERYBODY owes EVERYBODY else hence the current economic climate but please pay your protection money to China and all the other oil rich countries in the whole world that are still skullfucking you then get back to us.

[Duchess]

clinging on to it like a monkey in a tornado.

I love that! May I use it on occasion?

[IMaDick]

Did anyone hear something? it sounded like cracked walnuts hitting a padded wall?

I already posted that Hawaii said there was no long form BC.

Just the Live birth record that was realsed a few years ago, now if that is true where did the long form BC come from that was released just a few months ago come from?

I know you don't understand this shit CN which why I tell you all the fucking time to butt out of US politics.

By the way, europe owes the US more than a trillion Dollars, maybe you could have a talk with your government and tell them to pay their fucking bill?

You freeloading Motherfuckers.

The fact you are still talking about the motherfucking BC when a right wing rivet head like Bill O'Reilly has rightfully dismissed any notion of Obama being anything but a natural born American just proves once again what a stupid pea brained fuckwit you are.

The "birther movement" is dead and buried because it doesn't have an ounce of credibility left yet there are complete retards like you still clinging on to it like a monkey in a tornado.

For the sake of whats left of your fucking sanity LET IT GO!

As for the UK owing you money?, EVERYBODY owes EVERYBODY else hence the current economic climate but please pay your protection money to China and all the other oil rich countries in the whole world that are still skullfucking you then get back to us.

This only works if you believe hawaii lied, but then you have to believe that they lied on their own.

[Duchess]

Are you alright? You're late for work. I notice these things.

[IMaDick]

I changed up my hours a little bit, 3 to 12 I needed more time after shutdown.