Are black students getting help at home?

[Maggot]

last year I made one and showed it to him and he had no clue what it was. he does well now though. They teach kids some screwed up stuff today and change subjects so fast they never get the concept. He is going to a charter school next year anyways.

[Adub]

The math my 2^nd grade grandson is bringing home is tricky but fun. I was stumped for a few hours one night with the homework, and then during dinner, I got it and jumped out of my chair.

I'm wondering if the teacher even gets it. My grandson is a fast learner. You don't have to tell him anything twice. Once I explained the reasoning we were giving each other high fives. Now maybe he can explain it to Mr Somilleda.

Sucks when parents don't get into the homework with their kids. I have two other boys that come over to the house after school everyday. Their parents are all about bitching and yelling to get it done!


And it is not a Black thing.

[Maggot]

And it is not a Black thing.

I get that but you know how polls work, they are used in a plethora of colorful ways.

[sally]

I've never helped my kids with homework and they somehow passed every grade with honor roll. It's their fucking homework not mine, pay attention in class so I can do other things like laundry and cooking your fucking dinner.

[Adub]

I've never helped my kids with homework and they somehow passed every grade with honor roll. It's their fucking homework not mine, pay attention in class so I can do other things like laundry and cooking your fucking dinner.

That's how I was with my kids. My grandson seems to bring out the love in me though. And the math is trickier than I remember. This breaking it down to make 10s is awkward. It is basically algebra for 8-year-olds. Once I figured that out, it was all good.

[Duchess]

The math my 2^nd grade grandson is bringing home is tricky

I'm kinda hungup on that part. What kind of freaky math are they doing these days that a little kid's homework has the power to stump a smart adult. Woooo.

[Maggot]

I've never helped my kids with homework and they somehow passed every grade with honor roll. It's their fucking homework not mine, pay attention in class so I can do other things like laundry and cooking your fucking dinner.

That's how I was with my kids. My grandson seems to bring out the love in me though. And the math is trickier than I remember. This breaking it down to make 10s is awkward. It is basically algebra for 8-year-olds. Once I figured that out, it was all good.

This is why I will be smiling when they blast my kids off to Mars you hapless pricks.

[BigMark]

If it wasn't for calculators I would be selling citrus on freeway off ramps, and giving out the wrong change. My youngest however just started engineering school, she is friggen smart.

[Cutz]

The math my 2^nd grade grandson is bringing home is tricky

I'm kinda hungup on that part. What kind of freaky math are they doing these days that a little kid's homework has the power to stump a smart adult. Woooo.

Sounds like a big assumption for someone that called 2^nd grade math tricky.

I mean, unless they send the kids home to disprove:

(2-1) = 1
x*1 = x
(2-1) * (1+2+4+8+16+32+64+ ... + x) = (1+2+4+8+16+32+64+ ... + x)
(2+4+8+16+ ... + 2x) - (1+2+4+8+16+ ... + x) = (1+2+4+8+16+ ... + x)

(2+4+8+16+ ... + 2x) = 0

[Duchess]

I don't care for math at all unless it's saying something like 30% off.

[cannongal]

Schools are dammed if they do, and dammed if they don't....




When my youngest was in the 8^th grade, he refused to do any homework, and got straight f's on his report card. We wanted him held back, but they passed him anyway. We even had a meeting with the principal to try and get him held back, they wouldn't do it. Pfft.

[Duchess]

When my youngest was in the 8^th grade, he refused to do any homework, and got straight f's on his report card. We wanted him held back, but they passed him anyway. We even had a meeting with the principal to try and get him held back, they wouldn't do it. Pfft.

What is their reasoning behind that decision and why wouldn't they take a parent's thought on that into account? That's crazy and they are not doing a kid any favor when that is their stance. Jesus.

[cannongal]

What is their reasoning behind that decision and why wouldn't they take a parent's thought on that into account? That's crazy and they are not doing a kid any favor when that is their stance. Jesus.[/i][/size]

They had several reasons-

1. his NeCAP & MCAS scores were extremely above average.
2. Even though he did absolutely no homework, he got 100% ON EVERY SINGLE TEST-no matter which subject it was.
3. He met the required number of school days in attendance.

[Duchess]

They had several reasons-

1. his NeCAP & MCAS scores were extremely above average.
2. Even though he did absolutely no homework, he got 100% ON EVERY SINGLE TEST-no matter which subject it was.
3. He met the required number of school days in attendance.

Well alrighty then. I've got nuthin' when faced with that.

[HairOfTheDog]

They had several reasons-

1. his NeCAP & MCAS scores were extremely above average.
2. Even though he did absolutely no homework, he got 100% ON EVERY SINGLE TEST-no matter which subject it was.
3. He met the required number of school days in attendance.

Why did you want to have him held back if he'd mastered the subject matter and was already scoring above average, cannongal?

[cannongal]

Why did you want to have him held back if he'd mastered the subject matter and was already scoring above average, cannongal?

Because grounding him, & taking away computer & video games did absolutely nothing. He was perfectly happy to sit in his room and do nothing.

Extra chores didn't work either, and he just laughs at me when I beat on him.

The school never gave him detention, or suspension. Being held back was our last hope of him getting consequences for his actions.

All he learned was that he could do whatever the fuck he wanted, and still go on to the next grade. He's a Junior in high school now, and I still get complaints from his teachers about not doing homework, and they still pass him.

[BigMark]

Would they have done that if he was White?

[HairOfTheDog]

That sounds frustrating, cannongal.

I understand the school's position though. Since, academically, your son is at or beyond his grade level and ready to progress to the next one, I don't think I'd hold him back and disrupt his learning development for a year as punishment for lack of motivation/obedience either.

It would suck if he was held back, thus learning nothing new, and still didn't do the homework. How many times should the school hold back a smart kid who won't do homework? The school has little control over what the kid does at home.

When I was a teen, homework completion and scores figured into the report card grades, but test scores and subject mastery held more weight. There were always a few smart (and often under-challenged or unmotivated) kids who could pay attention in class, do little to no homework, ace the tests, and still get a B or C in the class. But, no one could pass if they got all Fs on their report card, even if the parents begged the school to progress them. It's weird that it apparently happens today. That's definitely a failure on the part of the school.

[cannongal]

It would suck if he was held back, thus learning nothing new, and still didn't do the homework.

Then let it suck for him


WTF is the schools point, when they call/e-mail me daily about him not doing the work, but they won't even give out a detention?


Where the hell is he going to find a job, as an adult, that will let him do nothing and still get paid for it?

[HairOfTheDog]

I meant that it would suck for the school and the other students, not necessarily for your son. I don't know if it would bother or please your son to stagnate.

But, if your son was held back just to teach him a lesson about the consequences of being lazy/apathetic, the teacher's class size would be increased and your son could skew comparative test scores negatively for the other kids.

Anyway, I get your point and maybe he'd be miserable enough socially to do the homework so he wouldn't be held back again. It just bothers me a lot more that some kids who have failed to master the subject matter are being progressed than it does that some kids who have succeeded in mastering the subject matter are being progressed even though they're lazy.

P.s. If he doesn't find motivation, your son might have a future in house-sitting.