2024 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES

[Duchess]

It's been deleted. 

[Duchess]

Mark Cuban campaigned for the VP a couple days ago.

[Duchess]

trump is having a hate rally in PA where he is talking about the size of Arnold Palmer's dick!   He thinks other men marvel at the size of it when they see it in the shower. Ahahahaha. 

[sally]

I watched where he was talking about white dudes for Kamala. He said he's not worried because their wives and their wives lovers will all be voting for him. Then he called governor Newsom governor Newscum. How can you not think this shit is funny? Goddamn, lighten up.

[Duchess]

 How can you not think this shit is funny? Goddamn, lighten up.

He's not doing stand-up, he's campaigning to be president of the United States. 

[rothschild]

trump is having a hate rally in PA where he is talking about the size of Arnold Palmer's dick!   He thinks other men marvel at the size of it when they see it in the shower. Ahahahaha. 

What's really funny is that he may end up beating Harris like a cheap rug.

[Duchess]

I don't think that's funny. I don't see the humor in it at all.

[username]

We're all in the same boat when it comes to the nation. "Y'all" are the people invested in the Democratic Party, which has done everything it can to make the election about Trump, ignoring the fact that the economy is collapsing. People see they're being ignored, that all they'll get for voting blue is Trump might not serve a 2^nd term. That's a raw deal for anyone that doesn't want 4 more years of the same.

Voting is like choosing which plantation you want to be a slave on. You don't see it that way because you aren't standing on the edge of the abyss -- yet.

Here's the solution, courtesy of Louis Armstrong...

"If lots more of us loved each other, we'd solve lots more problems."

Meditate on that and you'll realize it's absolutely true.

Okay. The video isn’t playing for me but I’ll try again later. Certainly the quote u posted is compelling and I can’t/wouldn’t disagree with that. Granted a HUGE reason I would vote for almost anyone but Trump is because I absolutely believe he’s a fascist, narcissistic, unhinged, lunatic. I think those are pretty good reasons (policies aside). But the economy is “collapsing”? Really? And you think that Trump’s “concept plans” (like massive tariffs and cutting taxes here and there) are going to make the economy better? For the poor and middle class? And massive deportations? Just read an article today about how the price of milk is only semi stable because of immigrant labor. Given that democrats espouse a desire to tax the wealthiest and corporations and address the cost of medications and price gouging you’d think “loving everyone” would make u more of a democrat.

Why should I put emphasis on personality when both candidates are beholden to elite interests that are detrimental to this world? Both parties embrace neoliberalism, advocated for by people such as Milton Friedman, an ideology that exclusively serves the interests of the financial elite. This started in 1976 under Carter with the deregulation of transportation and quickly accelerated under Reagan, Bush and Clinton. The premise for this is that what's good for the elite is good for everyone; "a rising tide lifts all boats", which sounds good to people who don't understand class dynamics, economics, or money. Referred to by Reagan as supply-side economics, it's an alternative to Keynes' demand-side economics. Neither serve the well-being of nation states, as both rely on debt.

When you think outside of the American political dichotomy you see that in both cases the socio-economic structure of our society is rigged in favor of those who control the monetary system, i.e., the Federal Reserve System. The people that operate that system can't lose because they know when markets are going to go up and when they're going to go down, because they set interest rates. By definition that is "insider trading", which is technically illegal, as is monopolization; these laws are rarely enforced, however, and when they are it's in response to blatant cases that threaten the stability of the very system that benefits from such practices. This is sometimes referred as crony capitalism because it is inherently corrupt and creates moral hazard, resulting in the tendency to engage in high-risk investing and lending that offer the possibility of high returns -- that frequently do not materialize. This also results in what is sometimes referred to as a "casino economy", which is an apt description. When governments behave in this manner their countries eventually become debtor nations.

I'll leave you with two quotes from Josiah Stamp, who was a director of the Bank of England and chairman of the London, Midland and Scottish Railway.

"The government are very keen on amassing statistics. They collect them, add them, raise them to the nth power, take the cube root and prepare wonderful diagrams. But you must never forget that every one of these figures comes in the first instance from the chowky dar (village watchman in India), who just puts down what he damn pleases."

"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create money, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take away from them the power to create money and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create money."

Ur still putting forth some perhaps reasonable criticisms of the US economic system without offering solutions. Trump has hinted that he’d like to control the Federal Reserve. I don’t think THAT’s a good idea. Is there a country that you think is “getting it right”? I’m trying to hear from you what ur for/not what ur against. Although I definitely think that trusting the basic moral integrity of our POTUS (and ideally other elected representatives) is essential. I’m not naive and I don’t totally trust any of them but until Trump, I’ve never felt as threatened by what a POTUS might do.

Based on what you've said I think the ideal solution for you is to vote for Harris and hope for the best. Good luck.

That’s a non answer to what YOU think is best or what you’ll do when it comes to voting for a POTUS in this election and given the current reality in the U.S.

I have a lot of wishes and complaints about our current system but it is what it is right now so I’m dealing with that reality (and yes, under these circumstances I’m definitely voting for Harris). 

I think I’ve already said a dozen times that I’d like to see major campaign finance reform and I’d include in that dollar limits for each candidate (so they all had an equal budget), get rid of PACs and generally take the monetary incentive (to the degree possible) out of politics. So no candidate(s) would be indebted to lobbyists and special interest groups. Fuck, I’d rather they get some small flat amount from tax dollars (each) vs constituents, corporate donors or special interest groups. I’d like a third or fourth party option.

But that’s not what we’re dealing with in 2024 by any stretch.

[rothschild]

I don't think that's funny. I don't see the humor in it at all.

You would if you were looking at it from where I stand.

Read the Uncle Remus story The Tar-Baby and maybe you'll understand what's going on.

[rothschild]

Ur still putting forth some perhaps reasonable criticisms of the US economic system without offering solutions. Trump has hinted that he’d like to control the Federal Reserve. I don’t think THAT’s a good idea. Is there a country that you think is “getting it right”? I’m trying to hear from you what ur for/not what ur against. Although I definitely think that trusting the basic moral integrity of our POTUS (and ideally other elected representatives) is essential. I’m not naive and I don’t totally trust any of them but until Trump, I’ve never felt as threatened by what a POTUS might do.

Based on what you've said I think the ideal solution for you is to vote for Harris and hope for the best. Good luck.

That’s a non answer to what YOU think is best or what you’ll do when it comes to voting for a POTUS in this election and given the current reality in the U.S.

I have a lot of wishes and complaints about our current system but it is what it is right now so I’m dealing with that reality (and yes, under these circumstances I’m definitely voting for Harris). 

I think I’ve already said a dozen times that I’d like to see major campaign finance reform and I’d include in that dollar limits for each candidate (so they all had an equal budget), get rid of PACs and generally take the monetary incentive (to the degree possible) out of politics. So no candidate(s) would be indebted to lobbyists and special interest groups. Fuck, I’d rather they get some small flat amount from tax dollars (each) vs constituents, corporate donors or special interest groups. I’d like a third or fourth party option.

But that’s not what we’re dealing with in 2024 by any stretch.

The only thing that might clean it up fast enough to save this country would be to pay for everything with public funds. Completely eliminate private money so that it's a contest of ideas rather than a fundraising contest.

It would take a revolution to do that because people do not relinquish power without a fight.

[MirahM]

I'm watching Obama in Vegas.

[MirahM]

I've been catching this guy's commentating on Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REekcbDpWDQ

[rothschild]

I've been catching this guy's commentating on Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REekcbDpWDQ

Pretty sure Trump is all he talks about.

[username]

Ur still putting forth some perhaps reasonable criticisms of the US economic system without offering solutions. Trump has hinted that he’d like to control the Federal Reserve. I don’t think THAT’s a good idea. Is there a country that you think is “getting it right”? I’m trying to hear from you what ur for/not what ur against. Although I definitely think that trusting the basic moral integrity of our POTUS (and ideally other elected representatives) is essential. I’m not naive and I don’t totally trust any of them but until Trump, I’ve never felt as threatened by what a POTUS might do.

Based on what you've said I think the ideal solution for you is to vote for Harris and hope for the best. Good luck.

That’s a non answer to what YOU think is best or what you’ll do when it comes to voting for a POTUS in this election and given the current reality in the U.S.

I have a lot of wishes and complaints about our current system but it is what it is right now so I’m dealing with that reality (and yes, under these circumstances I’m definitely voting for Harris). 

I think I’ve already said a dozen times that I’d like to see major campaign finance reform and I’d include in that dollar limits for each candidate (so they all had an equal budget), get rid of PACs and generally take the monetary incentive (to the degree possible) out of politics. So no candidate(s) would be indebted to lobbyists and special interest groups. Fuck, I’d rather they get some small flat amount from tax dollars (each) vs constituents, corporate donors or special interest groups. I’d like a third or fourth party option.

But that’s not what we’re dealing with in 2024 by any stretch.

The only thing that might clean it up fast enough to save this country would be to pay for everything with public funds. Completely eliminate private money so that it's a contest of ideas rather than a fundraising contest.

It would take a revolution to do that because people do not relinquish power without a fight.

 We agree!!

[username]

trump is having a hate rally in PA where he is talking about the size of Arnold Palmer's dick!   He thinks other men marvel at the size of it when they see it in the shower. Ahahahaha. 

What's really funny is that he may end up beating Harris like a cheap rug.

Yeah not funny. I don’t think he’ll win by huge margins but he definitely could win. I didn’t think he had a chance in 2016 so I don’t take anything for granted (far from). 

I’m irritated by the electoral college system. Why is it up to roughly 6 states who becomes president regardless of the popular vote? I’ll vote of course but my individual vote seems meaningless given Harris is pretty much guaranteed California. I haven’t studied the college sufficiently to give an informed opinion but my uninformed opinion is the POTUS should be elected based on popular vote. I don’t think Trump will win that.

[sally]

I guess you like the California laws and Harris is most definitely winning it. Trump would normally win Florida as well untill all you liberals moved here for freedom.

[Duchess]

What's wrong with being socially liberal?

[sally]

I thought for sure we would see a woman president before we saw a black man president.

What's wrong with being socially liberal?

You call being socially liberal forcing covid vaccines on people or lose their jobs for example. All because the media brainwashed you into it. Being socially liberal has a whole new meaning in this age, it's called brainwashed retardation.

[username]

I thought for sure we would see a woman president before we saw a black man president.

What's wrong with being socially liberal?

You call being socially liberal forcing covid vaccines on people or lose their jobs for example. All because the media brainwashed you into it. Being socially liberal has a whole new meaning in this age, it's called brainwashed retardation.

Brainwashed retards are like RFK, Jr who is anti vax to the extreme. R ur kids vaccinated for the usual stuff? I think people have short memories where Covid is concerned. I remember watching the fucking ticker tape of hospitalizations and deaths (around 1.2 million +/- in the U.S. alone) the god damn isolation mandates, the business closures…it was a hot, fucking mess. When the vaccine mandates were first initiated we were still in the thick of it (and I, for one, would have taken a bath in rubbing alcohol and razor blades to help bring it to an end—provided others were willing to do the same). So FUCK YEAH on the mandates. I wanted everyone to get theirs so we could get to some place (more quickly) where we had some herd immunity. LATER, the virus mutated and became less lethal and actually the vaccines duh…worked. Infection and death rates dropped, businesses started reopening, mask mandates were lifted and TA DUM!! So were vaccine mandates. I got the first two and haven’t gotten any boosters but I was pissed as shit at the people who were refusing vaccines cuz it was slowing down my rights to get back to some level of normalcy.

California can be too socially liberal (Newsom has recently been making probably strategic political moves more towards the center). Our laws regarding retail theft were way too lenient (those are changing) and the way we have (or haven’t) handled homeless encampments have been stupid IMO (also changing). But, we support a woman’s right to choose, we’re not banning books all over the place and we don’t have a governor that’s an election denier who sucks up to a former president who has insulted him on many occasions (De Sanctimonious). 

Fuck Florida. You weirdos are chasing away FEMA workers/help with ur weird paranoia.

[username]

For those that complain about the U.S. economy…this from the Economist 7 days ago:

“How strong is the US economy today compared to other countries?
On a per-person basis, American economic output is now about 40% higher than in western Europe and Canada, and 60% higher than in Japan—roughly twice as large as the gaps between them in 1990. Average wages in America's poorest state, Mississippi, are higher than the averages in Britain, Canada and Germany”.

And Trump’s tariff ideas wouldn’t just raise prices for imported goods (which is like EVERYTHING from China)? :eyeroll: