09-14-2013, 05:41 PM
Ok...fair enough...I'm into chores and popping in and out but let me explain during runs..
The message was to make clear that the day to most of us was a day of mourning and to pay respects such as on Memorial Day.Although we had no Political agenda,we got caught up in one, due to the fact they(DC officials) kept backtracking on the reasons they were denying permits or changing their minds on what they said we were "allowed"to do.
Ie,..the MMM were granted a permit to march to the Capitol.No problem.Yet we were denied a permit to stop and visit the Memorials.They did say we could do a "no-stop,ride thru" meaning we could ride around the Memorials and continue on our way.Then,..they denied that.It is your Constitional right to visit those Memorials any time you wish.There was much more back and forth issues also that play into this such as some of the officials claiming they never got the paperwork.When we proved the paperwork had gotten to them and provided proof,...another excuse came up.Finally,..they ran out of excuses and started trying give some LEO assistance to get us thru DC in a faster and orderely manner than what they knew was coming.If you had ever been in DC,you would understand more.This is how we got caught up in some of the Political issues even tho we did not do this Run for Political Issues.The one thing that could be considered a Political aspect of our ride,if you choose to look at it this way is the fact we wanted Washington to know that they were not going to keep us from going to pay our respects and trample on another one of our Rights as US Citizens,especially this one.We all feel that this country has been overlooking the rights and freedoms of it's citizens in so many ways in that when they choose to deny us our freedom to visit the Memorials,it was the last straw for many of us and we choose to say"enough!"
I would have to say to you,yes,..we were angry we were not granted a permit.Many have served the country as Veterans to give not only this Muslim group the right to assemble and speak but most definatly,..us also.We were not going to counter- protest at their Rally location but had we choose to,..even that should not have been denied.
In DC,...when you have marches such as "Right to Life" or anti-war demostrations,...those opposing are also allowed to march and protest,even in the same place.
The reason this occured,many of us believe,is due to the Political enviroment and the mindset of this adminstration.I know you will probly disagree depending on if you support or agree with O'bama.
I would say to your snide comment about being pissed if they had assembled without a permit,...we needed no permit to visit the Memorials.We choose to do so as a respectfull way to lighten the impact on the population of DC and for the Capitol Police to know where we were going.If we had decided to do a March on the Capitol Building and were denied a permit,we would not have continued.If they(MMM) had done the same without a permit,they would have been locked up,the same as us.
The reason none of us were arrested or detained is because we broke no laws.We had a right to go and be there at the Memorials any time of the day or week we choose to.,permit or no permit.
The message was to make clear that the day to most of us was a day of mourning and to pay respects such as on Memorial Day.Although we had no Political agenda,we got caught up in one, due to the fact they(DC officials) kept backtracking on the reasons they were denying permits or changing their minds on what they said we were "allowed"to do.
Ie,..the MMM were granted a permit to march to the Capitol.No problem.Yet we were denied a permit to stop and visit the Memorials.They did say we could do a "no-stop,ride thru" meaning we could ride around the Memorials and continue on our way.Then,..they denied that.It is your Constitional right to visit those Memorials any time you wish.There was much more back and forth issues also that play into this such as some of the officials claiming they never got the paperwork.When we proved the paperwork had gotten to them and provided proof,...another excuse came up.Finally,..they ran out of excuses and started trying give some LEO assistance to get us thru DC in a faster and orderely manner than what they knew was coming.If you had ever been in DC,you would understand more.This is how we got caught up in some of the Political issues even tho we did not do this Run for Political Issues.The one thing that could be considered a Political aspect of our ride,if you choose to look at it this way is the fact we wanted Washington to know that they were not going to keep us from going to pay our respects and trample on another one of our Rights as US Citizens,especially this one.We all feel that this country has been overlooking the rights and freedoms of it's citizens in so many ways in that when they choose to deny us our freedom to visit the Memorials,it was the last straw for many of us and we choose to say"enough!"
I would have to say to you,yes,..we were angry we were not granted a permit.Many have served the country as Veterans to give not only this Muslim group the right to assemble and speak but most definatly,..us also.We were not going to counter- protest at their Rally location but had we choose to,..even that should not have been denied.
In DC,...when you have marches such as "Right to Life" or anti-war demostrations,...those opposing are also allowed to march and protest,even in the same place.
The reason this occured,many of us believe,is due to the Political enviroment and the mindset of this adminstration.I know you will probly disagree depending on if you support or agree with O'bama.
I would say to your snide comment about being pissed if they had assembled without a permit,...we needed no permit to visit the Memorials.We choose to do so as a respectfull way to lighten the impact on the population of DC and for the Capitol Police to know where we were going.If we had decided to do a March on the Capitol Building and were denied a permit,we would not have continued.If they(MMM) had done the same without a permit,they would have been locked up,the same as us.
The reason none of us were arrested or detained is because we broke no laws.We had a right to go and be there at the Memorials any time of the day or week we choose to.,permit or no permit.