ABORTION IN THE UNITED STATES

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A kidney is not a baby RC.

Exactly! And I wouldn't be murdering my kidney. My neighbor could adopt my healthy kidney into his  or her loving organ family.

What if you were an obstetrician and the state told you that if you didn't perform abortions you'd lose your license to practice medicine? Would that be acceptable?

Should the state be a moral/ideological arbiter, or shouldn't it?


Re murder, do you think a fetus has unconditional occupancy of it's mother's womb? If so, why?

Yes if I was an obstetrician I'd happily lose my license, find a new career or go into early retirement.

The state should be a moral arbiter on a case by case basis. I certainly think women murdering their babies qualifies for that.

I don't think you'd be happy to lose your license. I think you'd much prefer not being put in that position. 

Re morality, it comes in many different flavors, just like culture. What principle justifies government being allowed to impose it's brand of morality on people?
Isn't that why we have the separation of church and state, to prevent the imposition of religious dogma on those who don't subscribe to it?

Re murder, do you think a fetus has an unconditional right to maintain occupancy of it's mother's womb until birth? If so, why? What principle would that be based in, and should that principle be enforced in all facets of human life?

Using emotionally charged words like "murder" is not indicative of a well-reasoned argument. It's a logical fallacy. Can you try and come up with a reasoned argument in support of your opinion that doesn't appeal to emotion?

FUCK NO. MURDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!