Presidential race 2016

[sally]

Nothing is wrong with them other than they usually have to get off work early for some reason or other.

[F.U.]

Nothing is wrong with them other than they usually have to get of work early for some reason or other.

I seen the opposite. When they were on paper they had to work a full time job and they damn sure made sure they did that. They did not want to explain to the parole officer why they were always short hours. The only issue I seen was the overnight jobs were a no go. Usually they couldn't leave the county, or state. That is unless they contacted the PO and got written permission and had to have full time access to a phone because the PO could and would call and make sure they were at work.

[sally]

I wasn't even really insinuating that there was anything wrong with the probation guys even though some of them turned out to be crazy fucks, I was just stating that it seems everyone who applies for the job is always on probation. I guess that just comes with the territory.

[HairOfTheDog]

Ok, so prove to me that he is lying about the tacos. Just like you want proof before finally admitting HRC is a lying bitch, I want proof that the loudmouth is lying about what is being allowed to enter our country under cover of dark. I mean if they were such fin upstanding people they wouldn't have to sneak into our country. They would apply and enter the right way.

I thought you didn't care that Trump was using false rhetoric; that you supported it as justifying the ends? Now you want me to prove it? Okay.

In regards to illegal immigration, I said that Trump has not substantiated his claim that the Mexican government is engaged in a covert plot to send their "worst of the worst" criminals over the border. It's on him to support his accusation, not on me to disprove it. I nor anyone else can produce evidence of something not happening, obviously. The evidence would simply be "nothing", literally.

And, nobody said Mexicans, which I guess you call "tacos", are not crossing our border at night. No sound-minded American disputes that. However, there's nobody substantiating Trump's claim that they're being "allowed to" or pushed over by the Mexican government. They have, in fact, been coming at much lower rates annually for 8 years and are also having fewer babies though (which Trump doesn't talk about, though it's also proven by hard undisputed fact and Rubio and Bush do point it out when the opportunity arises).

The deception and fear-mongering false rhetoric which I specifically addressed is the "loudmouth" Trump linking illegal Mexican immigrants to increased violent crime due to Mexico sending its "worst of the worst" across the border. He's plain full of shit and there are many different and valid sources to prove it. Yet, he still spews it, and the ignorant lap it up.

For every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants. This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.

It also holds true in states with large populations of illegal residents. A 2008 report by the Public Policy Institute of California found that immigrants are underrepresented in the prison system. The incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared [with] 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults,” the study concludes. “The foreign-born, who make up roughly 35% of California’s adult population, constitute 17% of the state prison population.”

High-profile incidents, like the recent arrest of a Mexican national in the horrific shooting death of a young woman in San Francisco, can give the impression that immigrants are more likely to commit violent crimes. But the alleged killer is no more representative of Mexican immigrants than Dylann Roof is representative of white people.
Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical...1436916798

If you've completely backpedaled since this morning and now truly care that Trump is misleading/lying about illegal immigrants and crime, you can find plenty of sources that discredit his claims with undisputed facts. Below are just a few.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-f...and-crime/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...n-the-u-s/
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-fa...nd-crime-0

[F.U.]

Actually I don't care HotD. Its just fun watching you dig up BS that I don't give a furry rats ass about.
However since you said I nor anyone else can produce evidence of "nothing" not happening. Just like you want to believe HRC about here emails, because there is no proof , I will believe Loudmouth because there is no proof.

[HairOfTheDog]

Actually I don't care HotD. Its just fun watching you dig up BS that I don't give a furry rats ass about.
However since you said I nor anyone else can produce evidence of "nothing" not happening. Just like you want to believe HRC about here emails, because there is no proof , I will believe Loudmouth because there is no proof.

You're so full of shit, F.U.

I don't dig up BS. I provided the proof that you requested because it's quick and easy enough to help the ignorant with something so readily-available like that, when requested.

As for Hillary Clinton, I want to know the facts and the truth. And, I'll rely on the expert investigators who are on the case, as opposed to F.U.'s emotions and opinion. Experts have already provided you proof that Trump is full of shit on Mexican immigration and crime, and I gladly posted that proof for you -- you just choose to ignore it. So, your analogy between the two is back-asswards.

Anyway, believe what you want and covet bullshit if you like. It's not a problem and it is, in fact, often fun to watch you virtually step in it and run in circles trying to shake it off your shoe.

[F.U.]

Think what ever you want . I do enjoy it . As far as wasting my time finding shit. I don't. I let you dance in circles trying to prove a point about something I don't care about and the laugh. I think this entire system is a joke. I am smart enough to know that it don't matter who lives in the big white house. They are all the same. FULL OF SHIT.
I hope you have a wooooonderfull day . Big hugs to you.

[HairOfTheDog]

Sure thing, F.U.

The only one going in circles was you, Skippy: "Trump's right!".. "Okay, maybe he is lying, but he's got BALLS!".. "Okay, okay, I don't care that he's lying so long as he makes them tacos git back over yonder!".. "Okay, prove to me he's lying!"<-dancing in circles.

I already knew Trump's claim was bullshit, then and now, as does most everyone else who reads. It's been posted here before. There was no point to prove. I simply accommodated you and provided the proof YOU requested. That's a straight line, F.U. It's not a circle.

But, next time you're pretending to want to have an informed exchange, I'll keep in mind that you're of course just bullshitting again. You jokester you.

Hugs back.

[F.U.]

What you think is going in circles is actually not giving a shit. I really don't care. I wont be wasting my time going to vote so what does it matter to me? Its fun though watching you throw out facts and links like you have the answer to every question and always have the final word. In fact, I just asked a question about a riding mower, would you please dig up the info I need and post it in that thread? Pretty please! Thanks in advance you little hottie.

[Maggot]

I can see the Mexican government keeping their professors and business people before caring if the migrants left. Why DO the Mexicans want to live here? Its not like Mexico is getting bombed left and right by countries that think their doctrine is better than any other.
I can see the Mexican government not caring if criminals cross the American border saying good riddance to them. although the "proof" does not appear on any media site or television station, it would only take a few people to know what was going on and its not out of the realm of possibilities. But I don't think Trump has any inside information. If he did he would prove it and maybe he will some day.

[HairOfTheDog]

What you think is going in circles is actually not giving a shit. I really don't care. I wont be wasting my time going to vote so what does it matter to me? Its fun though watching you throw out facts and links like you have the answer to every question and always have the final word. In fact, I just asked a question about a riding mower, would you please dig up the info I need and post it in that thread? Pretty please! Thanks in advance you little hottie.

Yeah, how very presumptuous and all-knowing of me to toss out facts and links to support my comments, when asked for them directly by YOU (not that you care, of course).

I won't touch your mower, I promise. I don't typically post in threads like that, as I don't have any interest or anything to contribute. And, anyway, since you've burned me so bad for accommodating you when you make requests of me, I wouldn't help your needy ass even if you begged!!!

Keep on keepin' on, you Dirty Dog!

[F.U.]

And here's where I'd put a fuck . . . . . If I gave one. LMFAO !!

[sally]

I just asked a question about a riding mower, would you please dig up the info I need and post it in that thread? Pretty please!

If that hot shot doesn't want to help you I've got you covered. I know a thing or two about riders.

I see you're working with the LT54, I'll be right over there with the facts and nothing but the facts.

[aussiefriend]

Trump should pay the Kardashians to support him, those ho's will do anything for money.

[HairOfTheDog]

SECOND GOP CANDIDATE DEBATE RESULTS


The nearly unanimous consensus across credible media sources is that Carly Fiorina won the second GOP candidate debate, by a long shot.

The biggest applause moment of the night was her response to a moderator question about Trump's comments on her face.

I do not like Carly's foreign policy and (deceptive) Planned Parenthood stances one little bit - though I'd still reluctantly vote for her over Trump or Carson. Credit where due - I watched the debate and I agree with the political pundits. She was far and away the most prepared, articulate, and aggressive candidate on the stage overall, followed by Rubio (in my opinion).

The post-debate CNN poll has Fiorina up by a whopping 12 points, to surpass Carson as #2 behind Trump. Also unsurprisingly to many undecided Independents who tuned into the debate, Carson slipped by a few points, Trump slipped by a significant 8 points, and Marco Rubio rose by 8 points.

Fiorina is now leading Trump among Republican voters in New Hampshire, according to early post-debate polls.

Ref: http://www.mediaite.com/online/new-cnn-p...ubio-rise/

[Jimbone]

Scott Walker dropped out, so now we just need another 7-8 to follow and maybe we can get somewhere.

[Duchess]

It would be kinda awesome to have two women fightin' it out for POTUS.

[Jimbone]

It would be kinda awesome to have two women.

That's better.

[Blindgreed1]

Ok, so prove to me that he is lying about the tacos. Just like you want proof before finally admitting HRC is a lying bitch, I want proof that the loudmouth is lying about what is being allowed to enter our country under cover of dark. I mean if they were such fin upstanding people they wouldn't have to sneak into our country. They would apply and enter the right way.

I thought you didn't care that Trump was using false rhetoric; that you supported it as justifying the ends? Now you want me to prove it? Okay.

In regards to illegal immigration, I said that Trump has not substantiated his claim that the Mexican government is engaged in a covert plot to send their "worst of the worst" criminals over the border. It's on him to support his accusation, not on me to disprove it. I nor anyone else can produce evidence of something not happening, obviously. The evidence would simply be "nothing", literally.

And, nobody said Mexicans, which I guess you call "tacos", are not crossing our border at night. No sound-minded American disputes that. However, there's nobody substantiating Trump's claim that they're being "allowed to" or pushed over by the Mexican government. They have, in fact, been coming at much lower rates annually for 8 years and are also having fewer babies though (which Trump doesn't talk about, though it's also proven by hard undisputed fact and Rubio and Bush do point it out when the opportunity arises).

The deception and fear-mongering false rhetoric which I specifically addressed is the "loudmouth" Trump linking illegal Mexican immigrants to increased violent crime due to Mexico sending its "worst of the worst" across the border. He's plain full of shit and there are many different and valid sources to prove it. Yet, he still spews it, and the ignorant lap it up.

For every ethnic group without exception, incarceration rates among young men are lowest for immigrants. This holds true especially for the Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans who make up the bulk of the undocumented population.

It also holds true in states with large populations of illegal residents. A 2008 report by the Public Policy Institute of California found that immigrants are underrepresented in the prison system. The incarceration rate for foreign-born adults is 297 per 100,000 in the population, compared [with] 813 per 100,000 for U.S.-born adults,” the study concludes. “The foreign-born, who make up roughly 35% of California’s adult population, constitute 17% of the state prison population.”

High-profile incidents, like the recent arrest of a Mexican national in the horrific shooting death of a young woman in San Francisco, can give the impression that immigrants are more likely to commit violent crimes. But the alleged killer is no more representative of Mexican immigrants than Dylann Roof is representative of white people.
Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical...1436916798

If you've completely backpedaled since this morning and now truly care that Trump is misleading/lying about illegal immigrants and crime, you can find plenty of sources that discredit his claims with undisputed facts. Below are just a few.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-f...and-crime/
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...n-the-u-s/
http://www.immigrationpolicy.org/just-fa...nd-crime-0

Personally, I can speak of what I've actually seen down here many times. I don't believe there is any kind of plot to send their worst criminals across the border. I just don't think the Mexican government/LE care to stop anybody if they want to come across the border... again and again and again. No matter how many times we deport them. I knew a guy back in the 90's that was a weed smuggler. Whenever he got caught they seized the weed, took pictures of it and then sent him and the truck full of weed back across the border. He'd usually wind up back in town with the load they previously caught him with the following week.

[HairOfTheDog]

Increased/improved border patrol on both sides should be part of any immigration reform policy, in my opinion.