Presidential race 2016

[cannongal]

According to Allan Litchman, all those people that threatened to move out of the country if "the Donald" wins; should start packing.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-...?tid=sm_fb

Usually only dumbass pricks say stupid crap like that. Moving if someone is elected, hmmph .........who gives a shit. Like anyone notices and starts crying or something.

I'm pretty sure it was mostly celebrities I read about. It was in one of those rag mags a few months back. There were like 8 celebs that claimed that they would move out of the country if Donny boy won.

[Duchess]

I just saw this prediction for tonight's debate. It's funny, not funny.

It will suck.

It will be really bad.

It's going to be godawful.

Like, insanely terrible.

Please, just kill us now.

That's all one quote.

[HairOfTheDog]

I have to drop my niece off for her night class.

She's getting there early because I really want to see the whole debate live.

I just heard that Bill will be watching from backstage. Good idea; he sometimes is visibly very defensive when his wife gets verbally hit.

[Maggot]

Don't worry, it will be just like Kennedy & Nixon. I might start watching at 10 or so. But both are so full of themselves Dancing W/ the Stars will pale in comparison to the boisterous cry of 2 politicians farting. Or the illuminating light of stupidity. I may wait for the talking heads analogy but for some reason am drawn to what happens in real time to experience the entire glorious effect of the event. In the end we all lose because neither one is black, Ice T should be the freaking moderator.

[cannongal]

Wow, My hubs just admitted that Hillary performed much better in the debate than Trump did. I think hell just froze over.

[cannongal]

Double post

[Duchess]

My hubs just admitted that Hillary performed much better in the debate than Trump did.

...because he's obviously astute and more than half the country agrees with him.

Meanwhile, Trump is running around saying I WON I WON.

....aaaand his pal Rudy said if he were Trump, he wouldn't do anymore debates because of the moderators.

Cry, you pissant, cry.

Hillary did a great job, she was brilliant, as I knew she would be. My only complaint is that I didn't hear her ask him why he was running around the country saying she intends to abolish the 2^nd amendment. I really wanted her to confront him directly. Anyone who pays attention knows he's lying, I wanted to see him refute that.

I was wrong in thinking he wouldn't debate Hillary but that won't keep me from thinking this will be his last debate. He lost bigly. Hehehe.

[aussiefriend]

Is that the only debate you have? We have more than that.

[Duchess]

Is that the only debate you have? We have more than that.

There are 3 of them, two more are upcoming in October, on the 9^th and ten days later on the 19^th.

[cannongal]

There's a VP debate in there somewhere, too, isn't there?

[aussiefriend]

Yep it's the same here.

[Maggot]

I think they both did pretty good. Clinton may have done a little better though in this round. It seems both were stalling a few times trying to eat up time. Or taking a knee.

[Duchess]

There's a VP debate in there somewhere, too, isn't there?

Yup, but I didn't care enough to check to see when it is.

[Blindgreed1]

Anybody else having Deja Vu regarding the debate and current online polls? Online polls while not scientific have Trump ahead whereas media outlets are reporting a Clinton win. During the repub primary, the same phenomenon happened proclaiming Trumps rivals bested him in the polls, yet online polls contradicted that and as we know so did the primary outcome.

[Duchess]

No, no deja vu.

I watched the debate and a poll wouldn't have made a difference to me one way or another. It was clearly a very good night for Hillary.

Going into it Trump was smug about having done no real prep. The lack of prep showed.

[Blindgreed1]

No, no deja vu.

I watched the debate and a poll wouldn't have made a difference to me one way or another. It was clearly a very good night for Hillary.

Going into it Trump was smug about having done no real prep. The lack of prep showed.

Worked for him in the primary.

[Blindgreed1]

This is from the typically left wing New Yorker magazine. Interesting considering:
"Who is Donald Trump?" The better question may be, "What is Donald Trump?"

The answer? A giant middle finger from average Americans to the political and media establishment.

Some Trump supporters are like the 60s white girls who dated black guys just to annoy their parents. But most Trump supporters have simply had it with the Demo-socialists and the "Republicans In Name Only." They knew there wasn't a dime's worth of difference between Hillary Rodham and Jeb Bush, and only a few cents worth between Rodham and the other GOP candidates.

Ben Carson was not an "establishment" candidate, but the Clinton machine would pulverize Carson ; and the somewhat rebellious Ted Cruz will (justifiably so) would have been tied up with natural born citizen lawsuits (as might Marco Rubio). The Trump supporters figure they may as well have some fun tossing Molotov cocktails at Wall Street and Georgetown while they watch the nation collapse. Besides - lightning might strike, Trump might get elected, and he might actually fix a few things.

Millions of conservatives are justifiably furious. They gave the Republicans control of the House in 2010 and control of the Senate in 2014, and have seen them govern no differently than Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. Yet those same voters are supposed to trust the GOP in 2016? Why?

Trump did not come from out of nowhere. His candidacy was created by the last six years of Republican failures.

No reasonable person can believe that any of the establishment candidates [dems or reps] would have slashed federal spending, rein in the Federal Reserve, cut burdensome business regulations, reform the tax code, or eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.). Even Ronald Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.) No reasonable person can believe that any of the nation's major problems will be solved by Rodham as she is simply the third verse of Obamas waning swan song.

Many Americans, and especially Trump supporters, have had it with:
· Anyone named Bush
· Anyone named Clinton
· Anyone who's held political office
· Political correctness
· Illegal immigration
· Massive unemployment
Our out of control federal spending
Our National Debt that exceeds our GDP (Can you say Greece?)
· Phony "official" unemployment and inflation figures
· Welfare waste and fraud
Money being spent on Illegal immigrants
· People faking disabilities to go on the dole
· VA waiting lists
· TSA airport groping
· ObamaCare
· The Federal Reserve's money-printing schemes
· Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine
· Michelle Obama's vacations
· Michelle Obama's food police
· Barack Obama's golf
· Barack Obama's arrogant and condescending lectures
· Barack Obama's criticism/hatred of America
· Valerie Jarrett
· " Holiday trees"
.Hollywood hypocrites
· Cop killers while Black Lives Matter
· Gun confiscation threats
· Stagnant wages
· Boys in girls' bathrooms
. Whiny, spoiled college students who can't even place the Civil War in the correct century... and that's just the short list.

Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They know that Trump is their way of saying, "Screw you, Hillary Rodham and all the Do Nothing Republicans!" The more the talking head political pundits insult the Trump supporters, the more supporters he gains. (The only pundits who seem to understand what is going on are Democrats Doug Schoen and Pat Caddell and Republican John LeBoutillier.

But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts - and Hillary Rodham is not a mechanic; she merely manages a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won't hire his brother-in-law or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.

"How dare they revolt!" the "elites" are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. "But Trump will hand the election to Clinton !" That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved "Maverick" McCain down GOP throats in 2008 - knowing he would lose to Obama. But even if Trump loses and Rodham wins, she would be nothing more than a caretaker, not working to restore America 's greatness but merely presiding over the collapse of a massively in-debt nation. A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both - and there is little evidence that Hillary Rodham understands that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on. At some point it will be destroyed by its debt.

Yes, Trump speaks like a bull wander[ing] through a china shop, but the truth is that the borders do need to be sealed; we cannot afford to feed, house, and clothe 200,000 Syrian immigrants for decades (even if we get inordinately lucky and none of them are ISIS infiltrators or Syed Farook wannabes); the world is at war with radical Islamists; and we cannot continue trying to spend our way out of debt.

Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city's water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don't care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American-Islamic Relations. While Attorney General Loretta Lynch's greatest fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed [islamic] lunatic who treats his prayer mat better than his three wives and who is fool enough to think that 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.

The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts. While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much.

You can be certain that if Hillary wins in November 2016 [her] cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we've seen before. The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and Obama administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. And America will continue her continuing decline as other great democracies in history.

If the establishment wins, America loses.

Roy Kaplan

[Duchess]

Donald Trump is not qualified to be the leader of the free world. Now matter how I look at it, he just isn't. This is only my opinion and I'm well aware that others don't share it. For those of you who support him being the POTUS please tell me what he has going for him that makes him capable of having the most important job in the world. Tell me why you think he'd do a better job than Hillary. I am genuinely interested in reading your point of view.

[Maggot]

He's not a politician. It's good enough for me.

[Blindgreed1]

I think Kaplan pretty much nailed it.